2025 WRC News & Rumours

[rallyfiend]

But you all who loves coming Rally2 cars are forgotting one thing. Most of the Rally2 programmes are customer based. And more important thing - this three current Rally1 manufactures are bringing huge money, from which WRC Promoter and FIA are living. If they will loose manufacturers, they will loose their money. I am not sure if championship can survive without money from manufacturers...

Are you sure?

Most in the service park understand that WRC Promoter provides significant money to the Manuf teams to pay for their logistics etc.

Just like they do even in WRC2 - lots of WRC2 teams allegedly 6-figure payments from WRC Promoter when they attend the events outside of Europe (if they do multiple).....

[saco0o]

Are you sure?

Most in the service park understand that WRC Promoter provides significant money to the Manuf teams to pay for their logistics etc.

Just like they do even in WRC2 - lots of WRC2 teams allegedly 6-figure payments from WRC Promoter when they attend the events outside of Europe (if they do multiple).....

wait, what? no, wait. manufacturers DO PAY a shit ton of money to compete, like pluto said. maybe the money to traveling comes from those fees? cuz the promoter's only focus is to make a buck $ out of the sport they are promoting. they invested some $ when they enterede the championship in order to grow it and attract sponsors and manufacturers, sure. but then they want their "RoI". i dont know how stuff work but it would be weird if redbull gmbh was paying more than taking. pointless i'd argue, tbf. no?

Edit: typo

[Steve Boyd]

2025 FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP SPORTING REGULATIONS states:

5.2 PARTICIPATION – MANUFACTURER
A Manufacturer:
5.2.1 undertakes to take part in all the rallies of the championship with a minimum of two (2) world rally cars complying with the 2025 Appendix J, Article 262.
…
5.2.4 must pay the registration fee of €413 560

plus the entry fee for each event of €56 100 for a three car team or €46 600 for a two car team.

5.3 PARTICIPATION – WRC TEAM
A WRC Team;
5.3.1 Undertakes to take part in a minimum of 7 nominated rallies including one outside Europe with up to two World Rally Cars of the homologation number 400/01 WRC or Ra1-22/XX.
…
5.3.4 Must pay a registration fee of €28 439 in order to score points irrespective of the number of rallies entered

plus the entry fee of €9 400 per car for each event.

[saco0o]

that anual "sustainability index" for racing championships is out!
ERC is on the top5 most "sustainable" championships out there... WRC got p7
i tried reading the thing but ahhh, its so much b.s.
that FIM e-xplorer thing with e-bikes only and like, 3 races. the tracks were basically "race around that hotel, whatever", the "public" were some fellas that were on vacation at those places and happened to watch the races. like. THIS IS LITERALLY the "greenest championship" out there. some of the teams were even sharing the bike's transportation (less CO2). nope. they are around position 60 or so, WAYYYYY behinda NASCAR in p8 (???? with +100 v8 petrol cars traveling on long hauls the whole year) this is all non sense.
WRC (and WorldRX ...and EuroRX?) scored better than last year because the "wrc promoter" did some stuff like... something... something green, i guess? anyway. other than that, heres the link to download

https://www.sustainablemotorsportind...-2025-download

top3: formula-e, F1, motoGP

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The bottom line is that the WRC is up shit creek if Hyundai pull out at the end of this Season, both financially and competitively. The Championship just isn't sustainable (nothing to do with being green !) in any way.

[skarderud]

I fell the wrc is like the wrx, no one is interested of the manufacturers.
The wrx was best in the 80s and 90s, when it was a privateer european championship.
Maybe its time to go back for wrc?
Of course it would be a total different thing.
The most important thing is to get rid of the manufacturers homologate stuff, what is the point of that consept now?

If the next rally1 is a Rally2, a Rally2+ or a safetycell based car with rally2 parts and some aerodynamic build by competent builders i don't know, but for me was the Gr.A and early WRC the best championship sporting point of wiew, that should be the main goal for FIA. But i have low expectations, sadly enough.

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[WRCStan]

I fell the wrc is like the wrx, no one is interested of the manufacturers.
The wrx was best in the 80s and 90s, when it was a privateer european championship.
Maybe its time to go back for wrc?
Of course it would be a total different thing.
The most important thing is to get rid of the manufacturers homologate stuff, what is the point of that consept now?

If the next rally1 is a Rally2, a Rally2+ or a safetycell based car with rally2 parts and some aerodynamic build by competent builders i don't know, but for me was the Gr.A and early WRC the best championship sporting point of wiew, that should be the main goal for FIA. But i have low expectations, sadly enough.

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There's two sides to homologation, one being the mass production numbers. If you didn't have that, how and where would you draw the line if the motorsport industry turns up with a road legal cross cart (buggy)? Or even a sofa, to drill the point? Would you be expecting the industry to build something in the image of a touring car, even though it will never really be one, and with a design that will never be sent to production because that isn't the 'constructor's' business? The FIA would not stand to have a manufacturer's design being modified without the approval and involvement of that manufacturer.

And don't forget that rallying is a touring road sport. Rallycross is circuit racing.

[CeskyOndra]

The bottom line is that the WRC is up shit creek if Hyundai pull out at the end of this Season, both financially and competitively. The Championship just isn't sustainable (nothing to do with being green !) in any way.

Someone else noticed Cyril saying in after PS interview something like "Podium is good, but we have to comeback next year and finally win it"?

[flat_right]

Someone else noticed Cyril saying in after PS interview something like "Podium is good, but we have to comeback next year and finally win it"?

Didn't watch it that far during the broadcast but you are correct, he did say that they need to come back again.

[rallyfiend]

2025 FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP SPORTING REGULATIONS stateslus the entry fee for each event of €56 100 for a three car team or €46 600 for a two car team.

plus the entry fee of €9 400 per car for each event.

If you check the Supplementary Rergulations of each event, you'll see that many (half?) of the events charge no entry fee to various WRC category under the terms of their contract with WRC Promoter...