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8th August 2024, 14:21 #21
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Exactly, just look at the comment section on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1u6lOe_FKI
This is insane!
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8th August 2024, 19:19 #22
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Bcs he attracts entirely new group of potential fans - the ones who has grown up with social media etc, he fills the void, the link between hardcore fans and new fans. I would even think he symbolizes that young, highly confident generation - what is the name, Gen Z? This is what happened with Netflix and Drive to survive - F1 become stylish again. Personalities like Sesks would do that job for rallying - not the grumpy 20ish seasoners...
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16th August 2024, 10:40 #23
My opinion about Martins so far:
He is a great guy and great driver. He definitely deserves a Rally1 seat. However I am worried that the hype might turn into OVERHYPE by some BS comments in social media. Colin Clark (who I don't take very seriously) told that his first stage wins reminded him the moments Kalle and Ogier had in their early days which is crazy IMO because in their early days KR and Seb already proved they belong at the top level (in every surface) because they dominated the below categories whereas in Sesks case this remains to be seen and I hope he can achieve this. IMO I believe all this hype comes because of his "hollywood" personality. Why we haven't seen the same hype with Sami who also won a stage in his debut with Rally1
? Because he is more laid back (like Kalle).
Again I am not taking anything away from Martins. He is one of the future stars of the sport. However I don't want his career to be considered as Overhyped because of all BS comments.
What do you guys think about this ?
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16th August 2024, 12:02 #24
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There was not so much hype about Pajari, because it was Sesks who was the first driver who proved that it is possible to win a stage and be in top 3 in his debut in a Rally1 car. True, Pajari also won a stage, but he was never in top 3 overall. Sesks' debut was simply much more spectacular.
And, of course, his enthusiastic and natural personality only helpshttp://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!
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16th August 2024, 13:57 #25
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...and sells cars for Msport. Read Dirtfish. I really hope Msport will get some good share of orders for Non-hybrid Puma. That car looks good, drives good and is fast.
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16th August 2024, 16:24 #26
Yes that's right. Sesks did a very good job in both Poland and Latvia. IMO his performance in Poland impressed me the most because to be able to match the big guns in a non hybrid car is impressive (yes I know he had a superior road position advantage but still you have to drive). In Latvia I kind of expected for him to be strong on Friday (with his road position, speed and local knowledge) but Saturday was better since he was battling with two champs Seb and Ott all day long, even with Kalle on Friday but that didn't long much since the golden boy is an alien for real 😀.
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16th August 2024, 16:28 #27
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He literally does better than half the grid right now. Why wouldn't it be considered for replacing one of them? On limited seats, it's the only sensible solution. We don't need 1 or 2 dominant drivers and the rest of them are in the 40th or lower places. I would even replace Ogier with some new fresh face. Except if he drove full-time, we would have more real-world stage battles out there (put aside this year). His comments, approach, and attitude are welcoming (we have plenty of constant whining and not being happy all the time). Not many drivers have that, the last one have a horrible crash and is missed for that.
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16th August 2024, 17:45 #28
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"the grid" is 11 drivers (5 Hyundai, 4 Toyota and 2 MSport).
Seks in his two outings was clearly better than only 3 of them (Munster, Katsuta and Lappi) and Sordo didn't start.
Guess this is the overhype AE1WRC talked about.Last edited by mknight; 16th August 2024 at 17:59.
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16th August 2024, 19:00 #29
Fully agreed mknight with your take and also I liked deephouse's perspective on this. However some of the comments about him were like "give him a full time season with Rally1 he will be a champion "(guys remember Lappi 2018 hype and how that ended up?) , Colin Clark in dirtfish videos and in his kitchen table didn't SPECIFICALLY compared him (but more like sounded in his tone) with KR and Seb (I mentioned this already). If that was the case, Clark doesn't know what he is talking about or he is insane. IMO one of them is the literally the GOAT (I am not a massive Ogier fan but you have to give this guy his credits) and KR is already a top 10 driver of all time in the sport history (HOT TAKE !! but let me know your opinions about this). He (Sesks) definitely is not better than Tanak who was a complete beast in his prime years at Toyota (still today Tanak at his very best is deadly for eg. 2022 Finland) and Neuville and also Evans.
When I do my rankings I really pay attention for the peaks of a driver. Longevity is also important but peak and titles are my priorities (Of course every people rank using different criteria and I totally understand). Note that this ranking I just mentioned is for an all time ranking not a season ranking which would be different.Last edited by AE1WRC; 16th August 2024 at 20:44.
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17th August 2024, 08:12 #30
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I am not so much into getting "new" drivers just because someone is "tired" of seeing for example Ogier.
The last few years there have been quite a lot of drivers that showed promising speed in first rallies and then never really improved to regularly fight even for rally wins and sometimes not even podiums and nowhere close any championship change.
Basically since 2017 only Rovanpera "made" it.
Lefevbre, Breen, Suninen, Lappi, Greensmith, Veiby, Loubet, Solberg all failed in some way.
Fourmaux and Solberg are the only work in progress there, can't see the others suddenly changing.
Sesks did great in those two starts, but kicking Ogier who is regularly winning rallies for him is insane idea.Last edited by mknight; 17th August 2024 at 08:40.
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Some tarmac experience would be great, too, but that's fantastic news. Mārtiņš Sesks @MSesks There are other rallies than WRC where to train for tarmac. And we’ll definately use them.
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