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Thread: "King" George speaks
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5th May 2010, 22:40 #11
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Originally Posted by garyshell
The elephant in the room throughout that whole piece was what was asked at the end, in that "was the formation of the IRL worth it?"....
He never really answered that.
I also found it interesting that he is very positive on the direction of the league, and Bernard's hiring...but I really started to have my BS button pressed when he claimed what it cost him to start and own the IRL was cheaper than buying a franchise in other major sports. Gee Tony...when you drag the sport down into the sewer, and spend a lot of money on it, that is the BEST justification you have?
Naive..the man is naive. A very NICE man..but completely in denial and clueless...
Part of me couldn't hate Tony....but I really hate what he did..."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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5th May 2010, 22:53 #12
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But hey at least I learned a new word: bifurcate. Which apparently means: split or divide into two. I guess he would know a thing or two about that.
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5th May 2010, 23:02 #13
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Originally Posted by the bro"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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6th May 2010, 01:09 #14
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Originally Posted by Mark in OshawaOnly the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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6th May 2010, 10:55 #15
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Originally Posted by Mark in OshawaDon't waste your time having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent
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6th May 2010, 14:46 #16
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Originally Posted by dataman1
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6th May 2010, 15:11 #17
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I think the whole experiment made him stooooopidererer
Sarah Fisher..... Team owner of a future Indy500 winning car!
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6th May 2010, 17:26 #18
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Doesn't the last reply say it all?
"There is great value in the Indy Racing League; it exists to support the institutions of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the Indianapolis 500 Mile race..."
Indy and the 500 do have a long and great tradition. But most of it is about men who were too nouveau riche or ethnic to be invited to Augusta in April. So they went to Indy in May. Indy was a hobby for them, not a business. That changed after WWII. But the Speedway and its various proxies (AAA, USAC) never adjusted. It was the Indy 500 and everything else fended for itself.
I cite the failure to hang on to Marlboro/Philip Morris as the series sponsor as one glaring example of the Speedway's failing.
The Sprint Cup, or all of NASCAR, doesn't exist to support the Daytona Speedway or the Daytona 500. The Frances understood that for racing teams to be successful as businesses, they needed a series of races and a season, not just 4 weeks in May.
The original CART owners wanted to race open wheel cars with sponsor's money. They put a series together that attracted sponsors and TV networks. When Tony thought that this threatened the preeminence and power of the Speedway, he fought back. And pulled the whole house down around him.
Andy
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6th May 2010, 17:53 #19
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Interesting interview(not) all the things that bothered us champ car fans about this man are laid out for all to see. He is the same vague, evasive, and bumbling person that irl's thought was saving racing in north america. It's taken a long time for some to realize that this was all about ego and very little about making racing better. I'm sure that tony with all his money and ego thought that he could squash champ car a lot quicker than it took.
There is no joy in saying i told you so. He decimated my favorite sport and the prospect of it coming back are looking pretty bleak. The only hope is that a new car and new engines will come soon enough to start over.
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Originally Posted by Andy Traxel
Originally Posted by Andy Traxel
Originally Posted by Andy Traxel
Originally Posted by Andy Traxel"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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