WRC mainclass from 2027

[PLuto]

From 2027 onwards, the FIA also aims to simplify manufacturers’ participation in both the WRC and World Rallycross Championship. The same car could be used in both series, with the powertrain adjustable according to the series.

For me quite nonsense, if they wants to use more powerful cars in rallycross. If everything will be developed for the power of rally car, putting much more power to rallycross car will need lot of different parts (and different development)...

[TypeR]

Glad they finally managed to agree on some new rules.. but oh boy, many people thought that this year's point system was hard to understand..

FIA: ,,hold my beer''
We invented new WRC printer-scanner-copy machine..

[Eli]

In one sense I'm glad they're going back to earth with the cars, and I do hope they remain special (even if not as special as they have been since 2017), however I think the cost cap of €345,000 is perhaps too low? I think the €500,000 we had back in 2011-2016 would've been more reasonable and I do agree they should remain a bit more exciting than the current Rally2 cars. However there's still 2 years to go so a lot can change between now and the start of the 2027 season. Furthemore, with all this talk about the new cars (yet again), the demotion of this sport seems to have been swept under the rug again. Is no one going to talk about the fact the promotion of this series is amongst the worse among all the FIA championships? And did you guys notice all of a sudden the talk about sellling the rights of the sport from the current promoter have been silence ever since?

[Steve Boyd]

For me quite nonsense, if they wants to use more powerful cars in rallycross. If everything will be developed for the power of rally car, putting much more power to rallycross car will need lot of different parts (and different development)...

It's been done before.

Metro 6R4 with turbo's added for RX.

RS200 with more boost & no restrictor for RX.

[PLuto]

It's been done before.

Metro 6R4 with turbo's added for RX.

RS200 with more boost & no restrictor for RX.

You are talking about 30 years old history. Also basic rally cars were made in different style. Now everything is on the limits with balance between price/weight/endurance.

[saco0o]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5z9...fd9SXRsM-jw%0A

Andrew Wheatley talking about his departure and next gen rules. a good listen to be fair

[dimviii]

It's been done before.

Metro 6R4 with turbo's added for RX.

RS200 with more boost & no restrictor for RX.

these cars had already build from start to cope with 500-600 bhp

[Fast Eddie WRC]

these cars had already build from start to cope with 500-600 bhp

The current Rally1 Hybrids have to cope with 500 bhp. The 2027 cars will have the ability with some mods and wont need to have the endurance of a rally car.

[PLuto]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5z9...fd9SXRsM-jw%0A

Andrew Wheatley talking about his departure and next gen rules. a good listen to be fair

Can you summarize in short what he told?

[saco0o]

Can you summarize in short what he told?

i think it was just cool to listen. as someone actvely involved in the sport and on these decisions, one can feel Andrew is more optimistic about the sport than most fans have been over these last years, 'uknow? dave evans knows when to 'cut' him shortly when he starts to spiral into some P.R. bs but at the same time, dave represented us fans, filled with doubts, questions and negative views about every little thing. it was an interesting dynamic. its almost like I was there complaining and asking questions lol

on the rules it was more or less the expected. FIA wants more safety so thats why they went space frame. homologations will be simpler. they will use these rules for 10 years. these new rules were decided among several stakeholders trying to find a better cheaper way for the sport. i even got the impression that there was more people involved on these meetings (nothing specific, but i left hoping theres potential new entries for the future, who knows!). they talked about rally2 being so good and so much cheap that several "rich" drivers simply didnt wanted to go wrc or rally1 car and that was one of the reasons why we lost entries on the top class, but now the top cars will be cheaper, more people will jump (so... rally2s will only win a wrc event if all "rally1' crash. Thierry was speaking non-sense). they talked about the lack of direction for road cars (ice, hybrid, evs, hydrogen) so the obvious decision was to have them all, since the world is not going full EV, theres going to have space for every type of engines. dave asked about "shouldnt we go EV to be ahead? hybrids exist since the 90's, we were so late to the game" and Andrew say that they would have to change way too much the sport in order to accomodate evs, so they need to wait a few more years until the technology is at the right level for a rallying event. they talked about "lack of promotion, cuz drivers are not national heroes anymore, on newspaper covers" but c'moon, that boat has sailed, Dave. 'people dont follow 3 day events, shouldnt we change everything?". Andrew says that best way to get someone hooked into rally is to bring them to the stages. Andrew mentions that the past regulations (17 and 22) never had budget cap, so the costs went crazy (from expensiver lighter bolts to more engineers analysing data, probably), but now they will do it right. i feel they kinda 'regreat' going for hybrids, maybe?

they briefly talked about world rx... not sure dave knows something but apparently maybe FIA itself can take over the promotion... i didnt understand that tbf. anyway, nothing special, it was just cool to listen these two chatting as a whole