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    Quote Originally Posted by CeskyOndra View Post
    ..Which was mainly because of his Friday´s road position
    I don't think so, the final stage performance on the wrong tyres was incredible.

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    I agree that Thierry is better on Tarmac than Kalle but not Ott. I believe Kalle's time in circuit this year will help him to get better next year in Tarmac rounds.

    IMO he is the best on gravel and snow. I don't think he has still reached top of his game on Tarmac but he is still good. The most scariest thing about Rovanpera is when he pushes 100% he is literally from another planet. He always has something reserved under his foot.

    I still give the edge to Rovanpera next year since the championship is mostly based on Gravel rounds and with the new rallies added he always excels in new events !!

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    Ogier will pick all three too for sure as he like new ones and was always very good to quickly adapt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Ogier will pick all three too for sure as he like new ones and was always very good to quickly adapt.
    Ogier's picks IMO: Monte, Canarias, Portugal, Sardegna, Greece, Paraguay, CER, Japan and Arabia.. "Part time season"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE1WRC View Post
    I agree that Thierry is better on Tarmac than Kalle but not Ott. I believe Kalle's time in circuit this year will help him to get better next year in Tarmac rounds.

    IMO he is the best on gravel and snow. I don't think he has still reached top of his game on Tarmac but he is still good. The most scariest thing about Rovanpera is when he pushes 100% he is literally from another planet. He always has something reserved under his foot.

    I still give the edge to Rovanpera next year since the championship is mostly based on Gravel rounds and with the new rallies added he always excels in new events !!
    We have seen what happens if kalle pushes 100%. 3 DNF out of 7 rallies.

    I believe Tanak is just as fast as rovanpera on gravel, and neuville is faster on tarmac. But that's just my opinion, no hard fact.

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    As much as I love Ott, can't argue with Colin this time. Thierry only needed 2 points on Sunday, which, at his level, is basically like cruising through the stages. Ott should have driven safely through, which would have resulted in a perfect season (Drivers 1-2, manus 1st) and everybody would have been happy. Like Ott said, a total fu*k up.

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    Ott will have cost his mechanics, engineers, Team Principal, administrative staff - as well as the fellow crews - probably quite sizable win bonuses for the Manufacturers Championship that they will have long ago mentally banked. This was theirs to lose for most of the season.

    He won't be popular within the team for some time about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    As much as I love Ott, can't argue with Colin this time. Thierry only needed 2 points on Sunday, which, at his level, is basically like cruising through the stages. Ott should have driven safely through, which would have resulted in a perfect season (Drivers 1-2, manus 1st) and everybody would have been happy. Like Ott said, a total fu*k up.
    I would push if I would be Tanak. Chances for drivers title were slim but if Thierry would have some car issue or made costly mistake and Tanak still would lose by 1 point due to safe approach, it would be even bigger fuck up.

    We saw crazy things on sundays this year. Tanak win in Sardegna, Rovanpera retiring in Finland and many more. I don't believe Thierry and Ott care about manus title that much to not fight for first or second drivers title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backa View Post
    I would push if I would be Tanak. Chances for drivers title were slim but if Thierry would have some car issue or made costly mistake and Tanak still would lose by 1 point due to safe approach, it would be even bigger fuck up.

    We saw crazy things on sundays this year. Tanak win in Sardegna, Rovanpera retiring in Finland and many more. I don't believe Thierry and Ott care about manus title that much to not fight for first or second drivers title.
    Ott was the only Hyundai at the front coming Sunday though, he had the responsibility to deliver for the team, especially with title hopes being very slim. I wouldn't blame Tanak if he had 0 titles to his name, like Thierry had - might never have another chance to be world champion, you have to push. But with already one title, in my opinion he should have played it safer.

    I'll say this though: I don't know how much Tanak was overpushing and how much it was the notes' fault for not warning about the tricky muddy corner. Moreover, Hyundai is wrong if they blame everything solely on Tanak: his mistake was the biggest, but if Neuville's turbo wouldn't have failed and if Mikkelsen didn't superrally (sorry for him, he gave it all on Sunday but wasn't enough), Hyundai might have had the manu title as well.

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