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    It was a bad idea back in 2012-2013, no reason why it'll suddenly be a good one in 2025: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/quali...-wrc-for-2025/

    That's WRC for you I guess, replacing bad implmentaions of rules with other bad ones....and to make sure they don't change it they announce it just before the end of the year...
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    Of course they decide all those things at the last moment or too late.

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    Also regarding the changes for next year: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/h...ange/10674772/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    It was a bad idea back in 2012-2013, no reason why it'll suddenly be a good one in 2025: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/quali...-wrc-for-2025/

    That's WRC for you I guess, replacing bad implmentaions of rules with other bad ones....and to make sure they don't change it they announce it just before the end of the year...
    I see why a qualifying stage could be a good idea, but why would you only let the top 3 participate? Either every rc1 does it, or none.

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    And yet that problem would simply be fixed with one tarmac round being put/moved in the middle of season, then we wouldn't needed to have that conversation at all.

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    Possibly four Rally1 Cars each for Toyota and Hyundai next season ?

    https://rallyjournal.com/a-major-rev...as-rally-team/

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    I see why a qualifying stage could be a good idea, but why would you only let the top 3 participate? Either every rc1 does it, or none.
    actually I kinda agree with Millener. that could be a good compromise.

    “There was some discussion of a return to full qualifying, which I wasn’t in favor of because I believe the best drivers will always come to the top and it will be the same few drivers winning qualifying and choosing the best position on the road.

    “Is there a compromise? I wondered if we could just do the top three in the championship? The driver who’s in fourth place would have started fourth on the road anyway, so it doesn’t impact on them. This is a good compromise.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    actually I kinda agree with Millener. that could be a good compromise.

    “There was some discussion of a return to full qualifying, which I wasn’t in favor of because I believe the best drivers will always come to the top and it will be the same few drivers winning qualifying and choosing the best position on the road.

    “Is there a compromise? I wondered if we could just do the top three in the championship? The driver who’s in fourth place would have started fourth on the road anyway, so it doesn’t impact on them. This is a good compromise.”
    What a load of BS!!!
    He could say it straight - M Sport Cars are so underdeveloped that they will never reach top 3. Or beter yet, give slower drivers a time handicap...

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    Quali has been tested and worked well in ERC. Why water it down to just 3? All Rally 1 cars would be the right way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by COD View Post
    Quali has been tested and worked well in ERC. Why water it down to just 3? All Rally 1 cars would be the right way to go
    WRC and ERC is quite different in this way. In WRC you have only 9-10 cars in the highest class (and only few of them able to fight for podium). Nobody else has a chance to be on top places. Most of the drivers is doing whole championship (ok, this year there were so many with not complete season), so championship standings can work. On the other hand, in ERC you have some regulars and plenty of locals (or guests) who can fight for podium and even a win. So proper qualifying is a need...

    And if you look in last years in WRC, there was for a long time driver who was above the others (Loeb, Ogier, Rovanpera) so they need to find a way how to allow others to fight with them...

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