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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    cool to see the european/british champ and the french
    Was a shame that we didn't get Patrick at the last round of the British Championship, but can understand this was maybe a good way of testing the water for 2025.

    French teams aren't usually interested in racing outside of France (which kind of makes sense given how strong their own Championship is), really good to see them at a World round.

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    tho these tracks are so lame, tight corners, no deep dirt, no bouncing and sliding cars in fast corners.... bleh.
    We did get to see a bit of overtaking though: and that is something that a lot of the "big" circuit layouts have been lacking.

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    not convinced by ole's perfomance. johan literally let him pass on the two semi finals (i mean both days). to start from the front. no problem with the tatics, but meeeh, nothing incredible imo hehe
    I really like OCV (and I think he is a skilled driver), but yeah, JK definitely stepped aside for him.
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    I watched a few rounds too, and it's clear than this EV cars are shitty. They should scrap it, on corners it's not exciting and they can't even get power on the ground. At this last round JK was driving so agressive, always outside the lines and still came out way quicker than this electic machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    I watched a few rounds too, and it's clear than this EV cars are shitty. They should scrap it, on corners it's not exciting and they can't even get power on the ground. At this last round JK was driving so agressive, always outside the lines and still came out way quicker than this electic machines.
    This is what bothers me with the suggested 2027 WRC Regs and the 'Battle of Technologies". The rally cars still using ICE power will likely still be the best for the job and any manufacturers coming with an alternative wont knowing they'll be beaten. Just equalizing power to weight just doesn't equate in rallying. It's the location of the weight and how power is delivered which is crucial.

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    not sure you fellas are big rallycross followers but try to check it out in 2025 the "RallyX Championship".
    its a really good championship normally racing in sweden-norway-finland-denmark. (it was even called rallyx nordic. and 'rallyx scandinavia before that when it was created - around 2015, i think?). this year they expanded into germany and for 2025 they will be running two championships (something like that). one in those nordic countries - as always - and a new 'southern series' in mainland europe (probably in france-germany-hungary). then they are planning a big finale with the top teams from each of these two series. (hope it is lydden hill - uk). the top class here is "open 4wd", so you can race petrol, bio fuel, evs, modifieds... its great! PLUS they run an "open 4wd am" for drivers that are not racing top level class (i mean, theres a few world/euroRX cars competing there, so it gets hard for other fellas running 2014 euroRX cars, for example, so they have this separated final for them) they also plan to have something in america, since nitrocross may be dead for good.
    they have andrew coley broadcasting, and its live on youtube for free, open chat. always a blast to watch racing and chat with other fellas. give it a try if you dont know this one! (yep, kristofferson is a multi-time champ there haha. oliver solberg and niclas gronholm also won titles there!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    I watched a few rounds too, and it's clear than this EV cars are shitty. They should scrap it, on corners it's not exciting and they can't even get power on the ground. At this last round JK was driving so agressive, always outside the lines and still came out way quicker than this electic machines.
    I much prefer the combustion cars, but don't forget that the RX1E cars are carrying an extra 160kg to slow them down this year.

    I thought that the RX1E cars took a huge step forward with the improvements they introduced last year. Compare them at somewhere like Montalagre and they behave like "normal" cars now (which I don't think is true if you watch any footage any them from their debut season in 2022). The times were way quicker as well.

    I am not a massive Hansen fan, but I could understand where they were coming from with the complaint about the weight difference this year. Those extra 160kg were what was causing such a massive different at somewhere like Istanbul.

    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    not sure you fellas are big rallycross followers but try to check it out in 2025 the "RallyX Championship".
    RallyX is great! This year hasn't been its best season (in my personal opinion), but still a brilliant series and definitely one of the best rallycross Championship at the moment. The RallyX livestream is superb; well organised, fun but professional presentation and all free!

    For me Rallycross France is king at the moment, but then it has always been an incredibly strong series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbtstt View Post
    I much prefer the combustion cars, but don't forget that the RX1E cars are carrying an extra 160kg to slow them down this year.

    I thought that the RX1E cars took a huge step forward with the improvements they introduced last year. Compare them at somewhere like Montalagre and they behave like "normal" cars now (which I don't think is true if you watch any footage any them from their debut season in 2022). The times were way quicker as well.

    I am not a massive Hansen fan, but I could understand where they were coming from with the complaint about the weight difference this year. Those extra 160kg were what was causing such a massive different at somewhere like Istanbul.
    This is my point. Using extra weight to slow a more powerful (electric) car is too crude as the extra weight also has to be braked and rotated. It would be better if they made the same power and torque as the ICE cars in the first place.

    This lesson must be applied in any similar situation re the next WRC Regs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    This is my point. Using extra weight to slow a more powerful (electric) car is too crude as the extra weight also has to be braked and rotated. It would be better if they made the same power and torque as the ICE cars in the first place.

    This lesson must be applied in any similar situation re the next WRC Regs.
    Yeah, absolutely. I could be wrong, but I think the Equalization of Technology rules for World RX were knocked up pretty quickly. They have had this year to review them now (plus a whole season of data), so I hope that there are tweaks made to regulations before the 2025 season starts.

    As much as I was bored of hearing a Hansen say "160 kg" in an interview, I do think that the electric cars had less advantageous moments...

    ...that said, they were up against JK. So they were always at a disadvantage.
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    johan is bizarre. he won the 2021 title on an audi too. you can have him in any car and he will win. hes not 3x extreme-e champ because mikaela sucked in two situations in that second season, where loeb won. cant stop this guy, jeez. i want to see him doing more rally. once he masters it, kalle would have some problems.... haha

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    There needs to come a time when this Championship gets two in the back of the head.

    And I think that time is coming.

    A bunch of families pretending to be a real world championship.

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