Williams dumps Logan

[Nitrodaze]

One crash too many sees Logan run out of luck as Vowles finally loses patience. I personally think Vowles showed inexperience by hanging on to Logan as long as they did. In any other team on the grid, he would have been dumped at the end of last season.
The quest for an American driver good enough to emulate the great Andretti in F1 continues.

[The Black Knight]

He was clearly not good enough for F1. I'm unsure exactly how many times he crashed this year or how many red flags he caused but it was a lot.

I'm a firm believer that the FIA needs to be able to intervene in situations like this and force the team to drop a driver if it's clear they aren't good enough. In the case of Logan this has been very clear for quite some time. A minimal driving standard must be applied i.e. you crash more than 3 times in 10 races your license is revoked. There's been many drivers in F1 like Logan over the years and they are a danger to themselves and other drivers.

[Used to be Starter]

He was clearly not good enough for F1. I'm unsure exactly how many times he crashed this year or how many red flags he caused but it was a lot.

I'm a firm believer that the FIA needs to be able to intervene in situations like this and force the team to drop a driver if it's clear they aren't good enough. In the case of Logan this has been very clear for quite some time. A minimal driving standard must be applied i.e. you crash more than 3 times in 10 races your license is revoked. There's been many drivers in F1 like Logan over the years and they are a danger to themselves and other drivers.

Using that criteria, a couple of the drivers now on the grid wouldn't be there. Including his team mate Albon. I get your point though. It's that way in a lot of series, not just F1. Where the size of your check book is as important as your talent.

[airshifter]

Completely agree with Starter, when it comes to on track collisions, many of the greatest names in F1 have caused their fair share of problems. Had the points system currently in place existed earlier, it would make apparent how many of the new drivers, talented or not, tend to destroy some cars including those around them. More than a few in recent years have had points due to causing collisions on track, and if the "best" in the field do it then we know the newer drivers are going to do it as well.

For the most part, I think the current points system will weed out the worst of the worst. Every series has divers that cause accidents of have them. Even at much lower levels in motorsport people have to learn to deal with those that tend to screw it up more often.


As for the search for US talent, really until they correct the disparities in the super license points system they won't be finding drivers any time soon. The distinct bias against Indycar points has probably robbed F1 of a lot of potential drivers that are just as good or better than their F2 conterparts that end up with drives. Until the FIA drops the euro centric attitude, they just aren't going to find many US drivers. As it is now, many of the Indycar drivers that stick around and get the required super license points aren't going to roll the dice on a "maybe" in a dog eat dog world of F1, when they likely already have more stability in Indycar, even if it pays less on average.


Case in point is Logans replacement, Franco Colapinto. Though Williams probably didn't have a lot of options, he doesn't seem to be setting the world on fire. And I think it's fair to say that there are current Indycar drivers lacking 40 super points that could easily compete with him. And there are former F1 drivers in Indycar who would have not been even close to enough points earned in Indycar to get a super license.... give that some thought.

[N. Jones]

Well, let's hope the kid eventually impresses, as I don't see him getting close to Albon in his first ever race.

[Matthew]

I hope he can secure a seat in IndyCar for the next season. He is set to test drive with Meyer Shank Racing on November 19.

[The Black Knight]

Using that criteria, a couple of the drivers now on the grid wouldn't be there. Including his team mate Albon. I get your point though. It's that way in a lot of series, not just F1. Where the size of your check book is as important as your talent.

No, they wouldn't and I don't think Albon should be on the grid either. You get your chance and that's it. If you can't take advantage of your first opportunity then you're not one of the top 20 drivers in the world. There's too much back scratching and leniency in F1 for underperforming drivers. There needs to be a higher standard for drivers enforced.

[Nitrodaze]

No, they wouldn't and I don't think Albon should be on the grid either. You get your chance and that's it. If you can't take advantage of your first opportunity then you're not one of the top 20 drivers in the world. There's too much back scratching and leniency in F1 for underperforming drivers. There needs to be a higher standard for drivers enforced.

You can be quite scary sometimes buddy :-)