[WRC] Central European Rally 17-20.10.2024

[trykmann]

It seems the small rally before this one has helped Neuville to get a better feeling in the car.

[deephouse]

Wow Pajari shaved some bushes out there

[Eli]

I’m aware I’m jinxing it here but from the outside Pajari looks much more experienced on Tarmac with the Rally1 car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Regs show the complication...

12.1.3 RALLY1 CARS WITHOUT HYBRID UNIT

Rally1 type cars without hybrid unit are accepted under the following conditions:
– These cars cannot be nominated for scoring manufacturers’ points.
– These cars must be in compliance with article 262 / Appendix J and their Ra1 homologation form except for the points mentioned below:
– Hybrid unit must be replaced by a dummy hybrid unit complying with one of the following options:
1) Repurposing the existing carbon housing with no internals + Ballasts (location TBC)
2) Dummy HPS with identical size and dimensions / dimensions and material (TBC)
– Location, position and minimum weight of the dummy hybrid unit:
a) Location and Position: in compliance with Ra1 Homologation form
b) Center of gravity / height: must be equal or higher to the one of hybrid unit.
c) Minimum mass (90kg for the dummy HPS + 1 ballast of 10kg to be added on the car)
– Hybrid unit supports must be complying with Ra1 Homologation form.
– Cooling system for ES & MGUK: not applicable / may be removed.
– Safety Indicator and status light must be complying with Ra1 Homologation form.
– Sound module: not applicable
– Shaft between hybrid system and rear differential: may be removed. No other modification permitted on rear differential except cover plate or bung required when hybrid shaft removed.
– ECU Software: Must use be homologated for Rally1 HY / see Ra1 Homologation form.
– Sensors: only sensors linked to hybrid cooling may be removed.
– Actuators only actuators linked to hybrid cooling may be removed.
– Opening for accessing electrical connections for the hybrid system: must be closed / steel panel compulsory.
– Bodywork: Battery (ES) cooling – Ducts & MGUK and inverter cooling – Ducts may be removed (Appendix J) => the resulting openings must be closed
– Bodywork: The homologated trim for cooling the hybrid system (Battery ES / MGUK and inverter) may be replaced by body panels with a continuous surface.
– FIA data logging system: no modification allowed.

[EstWRC]

It seems the small rally before this one has helped Neuville to get a better feeling in the car.

Agreed

[becher]

Point me to a person who has ever said that Loeb is arrogant? Loeb is the humblest and most down-to-earth driver of recent years, I can't even begin to describe what calling him arrogant is.

I absolutely agree with you, but believe it or not, I've read comments calling him arrogant. (Not on this forum though)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux:
"No hybrid. Beginning of the season we were able to reset it but the rules have changed."

Now this is stupid.

[becher]

Wait the FIA calls it the "Hybrid Unit" in the regulations?

Ohh my......

This hobby horse discussion about a Rally1 being faster if it's lighter or it being undrivable without 100kg of ballast in the back is a bit pointless.

Physics give the answer, engineering makes sure that it is drivable.

What's the weight of two gravel spares 40-50kg? They are positioned even further back in the car, often on the rear axle or even slightly behind it, but if you remove both the car isn't suddenly undrivable.

Is Hybrid in motorsport a gimmick? Yes apart from the old LMP1, a lighter car is always faster and power from an ICE is never a problem these days.

But Hybrid can be beneficial in road cars.

[becher]

Fourmaux:
"No hybrid. Beginning of the season we were able to reset it but the rules have changed."

Now this is stupid.

So the anti reset rule is already a thing?

[Morte66]

It doesn't look like Fourmaux or Pajari got their hybrid back. Fourmaux said something at the stage end like "they changed the rules so we can't reset it now".