F1 Guru Adrian Newey leave Redbull

[Nitrodaze]

I have my doubts that the MP 4/23 of 2008, designed by Tim Goss and Simon Lacey, was really based on a design Newey had made ten years earlier for the MP 4/13, especially considering there had been quite a few changes of the regulations in the intervening years (including a reduction the size of the rear diffusor in 2005).

I think you would find that there were no major rule changes to the chassis over those ten years. Only tweaks to targeted sections of the chassis such as rear wings on one occasion then front wings on another occasion. The basic chassis architecture was more or less constant over those ten years. Read below a summary of the chassis rules over the period in question.

Technical regulations (chassis) All of the information below is Courtesy F1 Technical.net

1997
FIA Accident Data Recorder obligatory on all cars (ADR).
Energy absorbing structure on gearbox imposed, with rear impact test.
Energy absorption of steering wheel, column and rack must be shown by impact test.
Bodywork rules to exclude rear "winglets" and midship wings.
Suspension must be designed to prevent contact of a front wheel with the driver's head in an accident and to provide 120° articulation of the forward lower arms, front and rear, to help retain the wheels.

1998
Overall width reduced from 2m to 1.8m; grooved tyres made obligatory, to reduce cornering speeds.
Single fuel bladder mandatory. Refuelling connector must be covered.
Cockpit dimensions increased; side headrests extended to steering wheel.
Mirror size increased, 5cmx10cm to 5x12.
Front roll hoop test introduced; survival cell dimensions forward of dash increased; side impact test speed increased (nearly 100% more energy), site moved forward 200mm.

1999
Engine oil breathers to vent into the engine air intake.
A cable must tether each wheel to the chassis to prevent it flying off or contacting the driver's head, in case of accident.
A seat which can be extracted with the driver in it in case of injury is mandatory.
Use of beryllium alloys in the chassis is prohibited. Frontal impact test: speed and maximum permitted average deceleration increased (from 12 to 13m/s and 25 to 40g).
Distance of the driver's helmet below a line between the roll hoops increased (from 50 to 70mm).
Rear and lateral headrests to be 1-piece, with standard quick-release method. Asymmetric braking prohibited.
The FIA Accident Data Recorder must also be in operation in private testing.

2002
Power assisted steering systems must be controlled mechanically - no electronic control is allowed. This is the final step to the changes introduced in Barcelona 2001 - changes to avoid the necessity to carry out software inspections following a race;
The rear crash structure is subjected to a substantial side load - the same principal as the front crash structure;
Wheel tethers are stronger;
Mirrors are larger;
The rear light is larger.

2004
Minimum size set of rear wing end plates and engine cover to allow more sponsor space;
Launch control forbidden;
Full-automatic gearboxes forbidden.

2005
Reduction of diffuser size to reduce cornering speeds

2007
Obligatory rear wing gap spacer to prevent flexing;
Increased strenght requirements for rear crash structure

2008
The FIA provides a standard and equal ECU to all teams which must be used in the cars to monitor and control all electronic systems;
Traction control banned

2009
Front wing: max. width increased to 180mm, minimum height reduced to 75mm, middle section of 250mm design specified by FIA;
Allowance of movable front wing flap adjuster. Maximum 6degrees of adjustement, fully uperated by the driver from his steering wheel; Diffuser max height reduced to 200mm;
Winglets and aerodynamic additions on sidepods banned;
Driver-operated moveable aerodynamics allowed in front wing. Limited to 2 adjustements per lap, max 6° change in angle of attack.

[Nitrodaze]

There is a rumour that the Ferrari-Newey deal is done and dusted.

[F1nKS]

There is a rumour that the Ferrari-Newey deal is done and dusted.

Idk, the stuff I read is the exact opposite. Ferrari is out of the running.

[airshifter]

Based on all the click bait articles, he could be doing anything, anywhere, at any time!


When I find quotes from Newey himself, they are much less indicative of anything other than a break, though he doesn't rule out that me might be back in the game again at some point. He really leaves little indication of how long any break might be, or how he will be back involved with things.

[Bagwan]

He wants to slow down , so designing dirigibles is still on the table .



With a resume like Newey's , what is clear is that no team wants to have him as an opponent , thus the final offers for his services will be eye watering .

I'm not sure , though , if any of the teams could match the weight of money floating around in the big airship world .

[Bagwan]

So , it's looking like Newey may be signing on at AM this coming week , letting out the world's worst kept secret .
Fred just took delivery of his Valkyrie , so he can pick him up at the airport .

Tuesday is the rumoured announcement day .

[airshifter]

If the latest rumors are true hopefully Fernando will pick a more reliable car pick up Adrian in.

https://www.thesupercarblog.com/fern...own-in-monaco/

There was also other articles that indicated surprisingly that Fernando paid full price for the car and was not offered a discount.

One thing for sure though, speculation will remain through the roof until we know for sure where Adrian goes if he in fact does go straight to another team.

[airshifter]

Well it looks like I got punked by a bad scoop article. Apparently according to Fernando, the AM tech and flatbed were just to drop his car off to him.


But it remains to be seen if Newey is on board.

[Nitrodaze]

Hints from Eddy Jordan's podcast suggest Newey is heading to Aston Martin. Sky reported that Newey had a factory visit to Aston a few weeks ago.
It seems Newey is cashing out. It is all about the money apparently which is disappointing but then why not. If Aston is where he ends up, then a third driver's title is on the cards for Alonso. There is also the possibility of a Lance Stroll driver's title.
It remains to be seen if Newey can produce another championship-winning car at the late stage of his career. especially in an era where everything is about CFD. Something that you cannot represent on a drawing board.

One thing is clear, if Newey ends up at Aston, then it is all about the money and nothing else really.

[Nitrodaze]

It is confirmed today 10th Sept 2024, F1 designer guru officially joins Aston Martin. This is quite a coup that Lawrence Stroll has pulled here. With Newey at Aston, Honda would be keen for Verstappen who is Honda's most successful driver's champion in recent time, to join Aston. As would Aston as well l am guessing.

I was initially thinking this was a chance for Alonso to achieve that elusive 3rd World Title. In fear, the politics going forward may seek to replace him with a younger talent capable of winning multiple championships. The obvious target would be Verstappen, but l think they may also look to poach one of the McLaren drivers, most likely, Piastri.

McLaren now looks like the ideal team to be with, if you want to win a world title in the near future. It certainly would do wonders for marketing of this British luxury car brand.

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