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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Ogier was not going to Toyota until after Tanak left. Huge difference.

    Tänak wanted to sign the contract in summer 2019 with Toyota, but Mäkinen left him waiting and started discussions with Ogier, who was dissatisfied with Citroen.

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    Virves and Pajari seems to be quite same personalities. Calm and gently.
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    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Virves is doing really well considering the lack of seat time. Other top drivers in Rally2 have been driving a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trykmann View Post
    Tänak wanted to sign the contract in summer 2019 with Toyota, but Mäkinen left him waiting and started discussions with Ogier, who was dissatisfied with Citroen.
    Jouhki said it was Tanak(Martin) who didn't want to sign for a long time and in the end it was Tanak who "left" so in this case it sounds believable.

    Even if it went as you describe Citroen seemed to have clear plans with Ogier for next year, developing whole new aero package for a lot of money and then suddenly withdrawing when Ogier left. This seems to confirm that Citroen thought Ogier was staying (in his signed contract) until Tanak confirmed leaving.

    Basically you are the first one that I ever heard from that Ogier was supposed to have signed for Toyota before Tanak left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Jouhki said it was Tanak(Martin) who didn't want to sign for a long time and in the end it was Tanak who "left" so in this case it sounds believable.
    Everyone knows about Jouhki`s "love" against Märtin, so I consider related statements from Jouhki total BS. Not the first time.

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    All that is perfectly normal negotiation tactics - everyone talks to everyone and all parties try to maximize their own deal, leading to someone being left unsatisfied. Who tells the truth or who even knows all the truth is pretty much unknown. Let it rest, fact remains that Tanak didn't resign for Toyota and rest is history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonkka View Post
    All that is perfectly normal negotiation tactics - everyone talks to everyone and all parties try to maximize their own deal, leading to someone being left unsatisfied. Who tells the truth or who even knows all the truth is pretty much unknown. Let it rest, fact remains that Tanak didn't resign for Toyota and rest is history.
    Amen to that.

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    Sordo in trouble or just switching places with Neuville? Next split will tell...

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    If it's problems, it's very small. Not losing much.

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    Sordo in much trouble...

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