WRC mainclass from 2027

[macebig]

F1 and WEC were much more than that beforehand. Audi and Porsche had budgets of $150mil and in F1 Ferrari was about $300 mil in the mid 00s. Massive cost cuts since.

[Mirek]

But WRC has the fewest entries and only 2.5 Manufacturer Teams.

If costs were allowed to go even higher new Manufacturers would be put off and M-Sport would be out and the Series would be further diminished.

This.

If there's no value in the championship, even 1 Euro is too much in business sense.

Eddie, you don't get new customers by offering them a discount on an old product. Business with rich customers doesn't work that way and the manufacturers are super rich ones.


Anyway when Václav Pech bought a Focus WRC 01 its cost was about 700 thousand GBP if I remember right. The total inflation of GBP between 2001 and 2024 is 82%. That means that the sum equals to todays 1,274 million GBP or 1,49 million Euro. Moreover for him as Czech at that time the GBP was equal to 58,9 Czech crowns while today it is 29,4, i.e. exactly half!

More recent example. The R5/Rally2 prices were frozen in 2015. The Euro inflation between 2015 and today is 28%. That means that the Rally2 cars today are actually 22% cheaper than they were in 2015.


No, the cars are not multiple times more expensive than they were in the past.

[macebig]

Buying the car isn't the only cost. Running costs count also. You could literally swap a gearbox, an engine from a wrecked or road car into a Group A. Body parts were dirt cheap and very easy to find. Nowadays, body is all carbon and costs a fortune to repair. And better not go into engines or gearboxes.

[Mirek]

Buying the car isn't the only cost. Running costs count also. You could literally swap a gearbox, an engine from a wrecked or road car into a Group A. Body parts were dirt cheap and very easy to find. Nowadays, body is all carbon and costs a fortune to repair. And better not go into engines or gearboxes.

The claim was that today's cars are 3x more expensive than older WRC and 6x more than Gr.A which is simply nonsense.

Anyway Gr.A is nothing but a history. It's simply impossible today because the world and the car industry has changed. There is no point bringing it over and over again into the discussion about the future of our sport.

[WRCStan]

Anyway Gr.A is nothing but a history. It's simply impossible today because the world and the car industry has changed. There is no point bringing it over and over again into the discussion about the future of our sport.

DAVID EVANS PONDERS WHETHER GROUP B SHOULD ACT AS INSPIRATION FOR WRC'S 2027 REGULATIONS

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/is-re...rc-generation/

[Mirek]

DAVID EVANS PONDERS WHETHER GROUP B SHOULD ACT AS INSPIRATION FOR WRC'S 2027 REGULATIONS

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/is-re...rc-generation/

That text is of really bad quality

[saco0o]

skoda motorsport maybe not so random projetc?
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1471248274276620
...just sharing

[Eli]

skoda motorsport maybe not so random projetc?
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1471248274276620
...just sharing

Still needs to be changed from race to rally and if they do return, other than that I do hope it’s with a smaller model or at least one that doesn’t have that ugly ‘coupe’ sloping roof line look.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hydrogen-powered Hyundai rally car now being driven by Hayden Paddon in NZ...

https://www.facebook.com/HyundaiNZ/v...40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

[saco0o]

hydrogen electric from hyundai, ice hydrogen from toyota. its interesting if you think about tech development! really cool.

tho wrc needs to solve one thing:
if they choose these expensive solutions, (hybrids, evs, hydrogen) they need at least 5 manufaturers involved, because we know smaller teams and privateers will never have that kind of money. so they need more factory teams... OR we are going to have just 6 full time cars for years and years (IF none of the current treams quit) :/