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    Toyota don't deserve to win either title this year; absolute inept man management from them. Their supposed No1 full time driver hasn't had the full support from the 'part timers' when he needed it. And while he hasn't had a great year driving wise, you'd think drivers who aren't in the full championship would be willing to help him to gain points over Neuville when possible. But no......

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp View Post
    Their Team Principal is keen to drive and that is a surprise that Toyota will allow it. If Hyundai will take both titles surely they will be some changes at Toyota.
    Well it was before Cyril tok over. He is a bright guy and knows that as someone point they have to invest in future.
    At the same time one have to be realistic. At that time Hyundai haven't provide Oliver a proper Rally1 car, that was a tired test chassis, a boy trying to do a mens job so difficult to expect if you do not provide the proper tools.
    It also has to be said that Oliver probably hasn't been ready at that point and could manage that situation a little bit different. Peter his dad hasn't helped him as well mixing up from the side and finally he had to be removed from the service park course he was distracting for Oliver. But now things are totally different and even JML said in interview wit Colin Clark that he is ready. Unfortunately there is and will not be any seat for hem in Toyota in near future so Hyundai is his only option unless he will organize backing to drive for M-sport.

    However from Hyundai stand point Formaux is probably a better ( read safer) option course he is a proven Rally1 driver and with his French background he will probably fit better to that team. The unknown thing for next year is actually Neuville.I suspect that if he will win a title he might be very temtempting to do a time part program course you have no pressure, do rallies you want and are sett to win them. He said not so far ago that at he moment Ogier and Kalle has much more fun and it is something to seriously consider in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp View Post
    Their Team Principal is keen to drive and that is a surprise that Toyota will allow it. If Hyundai will take both titles surely they will be some changes at Toyota.
    Latvala is just there for PR and interviews. There is no way he goes to Ogier or Kalle to say them how or what to do..
    Lindstrom and Fowler are the main guys there..


    + I hope that Fourmaux won't go to Hyundai.. disaster car..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    Toyota don't deserve to win either title this year; absolute inept man management from them. Their supposed No1 full time driver hasn't had the full support from the 'part timers' when he needed it. And while he hasn't had a great year driving wise, you'd think drivers who aren't in the full championship would be willing to help him to gain points over Neuville when possible. But no......
    Unfortunately I have to agree. It is a little bit sad to see actually that he is not getting any support but there can be some things that we do not know. Judging from Pajaris outing maby they already decided to drop him for next year in Pajaris favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    Toyota don't deserve to win either title this year; absolute inept man management from them. Their supposed No1 full time driver hasn't had the full support from the 'part timers' when he needed it. And while he hasn't had a great year driving wise, you'd think drivers who aren't in the full championship would be willing to help him to gain points over Neuville when possible. But no......
    How would "support from the team" and his teammates prevent him from DNF'ing due to mechanical trouble and mistakes?

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    Mechanical trouble not but mistake yes that was mainly due to that he had to fight for Sunday points with his teammates

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    Teams don't give a rat's ass about drivers title. Their focus is on manu title. Ogi and Kalle help to take points for Toyota and Evans' changes for title is so secondary.

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    [WRC] 73. Secto Rally Finland 2024

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmin_sb View Post
    Neuville 46; Tanak 33; Evans 28; Ogier 49
    this is the ranking after the 3 fast races on gravel where it is speculated that Neuville will lose in advance due to the starting place. I think he is the big favorite for the title, only Ogier would still have a chance
    can you add Fourmaux? how many points?thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by manthey View Post
    can you add Fourmaux? how many points?thanks
    Fourmaux 45

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    If I were Fourmaux, and I had a full drive at M-Sport in prospect, I would be leery about Hyundai. They seem like a Bermuda Triangle for promising careers. He should get a big pay rise and a cast iron contract to drive every rally before he thinks about it. And then he should think carefully.

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