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11th July 2024, 14:05 #3521
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With current technology of batteries, charging, infrastructure etc, it is nonsense for EV to be majority on the market. This is very simple. If the technology will change or there will be big development, then we can talk about changes... And yes, I have also experience with hybrids and electric cars. And I hate them
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11th July 2024, 16:07 #3522
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12th July 2024, 11:19 #3523
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12th July 2024, 15:12 #3524
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One of my favorite quotes:
"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
"Current technology" is a notable part of the discussion. EV sold today has basically the same technology as 10 years ago... except it evolved massively.
Yes there has not be a massive step in range/charging, but there have been lots of tiny steps. Together these added up so that nowadays mainstream cars have 500 km real range in summer and some 400 in winter (real winter, not 1 week of snow and barely below zero) and charge half the battery in under 15 mins.
The only real limit for EVs becoming mainstream is the price. The high prices are partly caused by manufacturers themselves cause they all started with big SUVs with lots of power that they could make good margins on.
Found a graph for you to explain while I have issues with people living in CZ explaining how EVs don't work:
https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/e...e-vedou-244690
CZ with 3% EV sales in 2023 (3rd lowest in EU, though the two last have 2.9 and 2.7% which is basically the same). Norway is not on the chart cause it is not in EU, but the rate is over 80% for some time. (The rate of EVs to total number of vehicles on the road is over 25% and increasing)
Yes EVs are comparably cheaper in Norway due to the tax system, which removes the price issue. (Though in practice it mostly means people buy better cars than they did before for the same price.)
Still it doesn't change that it can be used to see if all the other EV "issues" are a big problem....and they aren't.
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12th July 2024, 16:25 #3525
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Actually I was not very precise there. Recuperation helps greatly with stopping power because it creates torque opposite to the movement of the wheel and doesn't generate any heat on the brakes. That means that it's an additional braking power on top of what the brakes themselves can do.
Last edited by Mirek; 12th July 2024 at 16:47.
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12th July 2024, 16:34 #3526
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The EV sales are mostly about government subsidies. Without them it's just a toy for rich people. Subsidies are tax money. Tax money are money paid by every citizen of the state.
Even with subsidies the electric cars are too expensive for majority of state citizens. Due to that far majority of EVs are being bought by wealthy people who don't need these subsidies.
The circle closes with an unfortunate fact that the poor in reality sponsor cars of the rich.
That is completely wrong and a great example how government policy shall never ever look like. Period.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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12th July 2024, 16:45 #3527
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12th July 2024, 18:27 #3528
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12th July 2024, 18:32 #3529
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12th July 2024, 20:11 #3530
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