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Thread: WRC main class in 2025
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15th June 2024, 12:08 #1191
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Rally2 must stay separated from the main WRC manufacturer competition. That's the only way to keep them affordable, level and privateer friendly. The sport can not afford to destroy Rally2 class and all other championships where they run for a very temporary boost of WRC level.
Also there was already a totally failed attempt to combine WRC cars with regional cars. It didn't bring cheaper WRC cars but it brough extremely expensive regional cars which the teams mostly couln't afford. We don't need to try that again (WRC/RRC).Last edited by Mirek; 15th June 2024 at 12:10.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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15th June 2024, 12:40 #1192
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"Everything is shit but nothing should change" seems to be the moto of the "level-headed" folks here
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15th June 2024, 12:48 #1193
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15th June 2024, 12:49 #1194
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15th June 2024, 13:20 #1195
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15th June 2024, 17:33 #1196
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Well, i could of course use other words, like incompetent, greedy, or "out for lunch", but the meaning is the same.
Of course i dont have run a international championship, neighter did you, i presume.
But, i've started 4 companies last 20 years, still running 2 of them, i know quite much how to run a business. I'm close to 50 years old, maybe i'm arrogant, i call it open, honest and direct speaking.
I've also run a quite big motorsportarrangement, we have run it 8 times i think, i also been a part of big arrangements in other sports, so i have my words safe i think.
The biggest problem is that it seems the promoter don't have a clear goal, and a steady way to that goal.
"The customer has always right" some said once, that is wrong. Sometimes they have, but most of the times, they don't. The customers for the promoter is mainly the manufacturers, and they are afraid to make a decision that some not agree to, thats a bad way to run a business.
Now i feel the manu's pushing the promoter around, noone are happy, noone have a clear goal, noone make the championship moves forward.
The other problem is that the manufacturers aren't interested in motorsport anymore, both due to not suitable cars, not suitable engines, and environmental politics.
So, i mean, that a manufacturerbased championship is a dead road, they have to make new set of rules that can suit semi-manufacturers or importerbased team that want to compete..
My sugestion is from 2027: safetycell as is today. Eighter own engine from production or a standard FIA engine. Sustainable fuel.
Less aero, less carbonfiber, normal sequensial gearbox, shorter suspension (not much, but enough to lower the speed)
And of course, no hybrid.
They need more customers, ia teams, if the team is named Toyota gazoo racing or opel prodrive wrt, or mitsubishi uk redbull i don't care, but they need more teams and more cars.
Of course not everyone can win, but that is life. If that was the only goal, why are these other teams enter F1?
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15th June 2024, 18:14 #1197
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Thank you for reasonable argument. Calling people names is really unnecessary though.
Now you speak about 2027 rules but we know little about what they are working on for 2027. What if they come with the very same thing you just wrote down? What is the point of your attack then?
What FIA working group made really wrong is coming with this weird last minute proposal without having pre-mediated support from at least some manus. The fact that manufacturers refused that proposal and FIA backed away didn't mean that FIA was doing everything the manus wanted. In this case it's exactly the opposite because this proposal went directly against their will.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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15th June 2024, 20:05 #1198
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I admire your will Mirek to argue with the windmills here.
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15th June 2024, 20:47 #1199
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Yes, You are right.. ARGUE with everybody, but not giving any ideas or options for new gen cars.
There have been many posts/questions about or how WRC future/cars should look like.. but there is only some master degree blabla.
,,Just give some years of time, everything will be good then!''
Dmn I miss Mr Adamo..Last edited by TypeR; 15th June 2024 at 20:49.
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15th June 2024, 21:06 #1200
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i meant "argue" in a good way and he has always very good explanations and points unlike some others who think they know everything when they have started 4 companies and call FIA and etc people stupid and what not.
Please go and candidate to work also in FIA then if you think you have answers and solutions for everything.#8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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If I remember well, that 2C Hyundai was basically put together from parts that was available, that's why sometimes it was a very interesting hybrid of various i20 evolutions.
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