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13th March 2020, 12:24 #31
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13th March 2020, 12:35 #32
I'm not working during normal office ours, got 24/7 shifts so it's a bit different for me. Anyway, this will probably be the last wrc event in the next coming months.
People that are talking sh*t about the small death % and this virus being overhyped, this is the kind of attitude that spreads the virus. Don't be irresponsible. The main effect here is economical, a good chance that some of us here will be out of jobs because of it. Read the news and be aware of what's going on in the world. I get the feeling that so many of us had no idea of what's going on, then it suddenly hits them and the shops get cleaned within 1 day as it happened here in Estonia.
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13th March 2020, 12:43 #33
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13th March 2020, 13:45 #34
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Those effect are not due to the virus, but due to the measures taken against it.
The virus itself does nearly no harm, but the governments panicking and creating fear about it might cause a collapse the economy.
Meanwhile every day more people die from the flu than there are new infections with corona.
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13th March 2020, 14:26 #35
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240 people of 2 million cases died this year from flu in Italy. 200 people died from COVID-19 only yesterday. 2000 new cases were detected and 200 people died in the same one day. No, even millions of flu cases never create a situation when the medical system is totally oversaturated just like it happened in Wu Han or Lombardia. In situation like that the people die without help because there are no means left to help them. How many oxygen ventilators does Belgium have? Our country with similar size has 3600. Do you understand that if you ignore the threat and the virus spreads every person who needs the oxygen and is over the number of the ventilators in the country automatically dies? That's what is happening in Italy now. Currently 9% of the world cases need intensive care and air ventilation. How many flu cases do you have annually in Belgium? 300-500 thousand? If 9% of such number would need an intensive care it would be 30-50 thousand. In Belgium You have 15,9 ICU beds per 100000 people, i.e. 1800 in the whole country. Go figure why the comparison with flu is nonsense.
All those measures have the only target - to keep the spread as low as possible so that it doesn't overcome the limits of the medical system. Until that point everything looks under control because the system can cope with that but once you are over the limit it gets totally out of control and people start to die en masse. Unfortunately some stupid people don't see that the line dividing the two states of things is very thin. Once you are under and everything looks fine, once you are over you have Lombardia.Last edited by Mirek; 13th March 2020 at 14:34.
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13th March 2020, 15:45 #36
In theory you are correct. But this is the price that we as human kind choose to pay for those lives that would end if we didn't take any measures.
The mortality rate of seasonal flu is ~0.1%. The mortality rate of corona is undetermined yet, but it is somewhere around 2-3%. The mortality rate of 80+ year-olds is over 15%, would you bring it to your close relatives? These are just the face-value theoretical numbers we have now, once we go past our health-care capacity, they escalate even more as Mirek pointed out. It already happened in certain regions of Italy, that's why their mortality rate is huge at the moment: https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...23#post1244323
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20th March 2020, 18:42 #37
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Are all motorsport events cancelled until further notice in your countries now?
When do you see it all can start up again, or can we forget the 2020 season?
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20th March 2020, 18:47 #38
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Nobody knows at the moment. China got it under control by using measures which are basically impossible in Europe. Therefore nobody can say how long it will take. So far the situation is getting worse everywhere and the early predictions about the development in Italy already failed. Stay home, take care.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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20th March 2020, 19:38 #39
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China got it under control, but have let it go a bit farther than most European countries before taking action, although their actions were very serious and quick once started. Now we also see very different measures inside Europe, with especially The Netherlands and the UK acting less and later than others. Countries closing borders etc. Once the situation is under control and "normal" life can start again, then we can start thinking about rallying...
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21st March 2020, 02:05 #40
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I think I would prefer Donald in charge than some of those stange European leaders.
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