I see Tanak is in, but what about the rest of the teams under the M-Sport umbrella?
Østberg
Henning
Wilson
Prokop
and others that are in and out
What ford teams will run on their own, and who will be running under the M-Sport flag?
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I see Tanak is in, but what about the rest of the teams under the M-Sport umbrella?
Østberg
Henning
Wilson
Prokop
and others that are in and out
What ford teams will run on their own, and who will be running under the M-Sport flag?
Prokop have a privateer team, he dont even rent cars from M-sport.
I think that's only correct regarding his Fiesta S2000 - his new Fiesta WRC is run and prepared by M-Sport (not 100% sure, but pretty close)Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan+
Maybe Mads could be with Team Adapta? And maybe with Henning and Wilson? Many maybes...
You are 100% wrong :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
It's fully run by Prokop's team isn't it? Just getting help from a Msport engineer often probably such stuff. Many privateers can have that.
I think that's part of the deal when you buy an WRC car, engineer and his laptop comes with it (so to speak) at least for a certain period, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Yes for Prodrive.
Msport too, that's what I know. But u have to pay for the engineer per rally for Prodrive that is, probably for Msport too..
Ok, then i stand corrected :) But then he's the first to have a Fiesta WRC run/prepared another team than M-Sport, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I recall last year at Rally GB that Colin Clark (WRR) said his Fiesta WRC wasn't run by his own team like the S2000 was.
He is not the only one. Östberg today used his own new Fiesta in Norway. Car of Al Rahji is I think also run separately by Simon Jean-Joseph Racing. I know about others going to be used by private teams in this season.
Ok, I was only refering to WRC rounds and and WRC cars (post 2011) and there I think he will be the first not to have his Fiesta WRC run by M-Sport. Is his team still called Jipocar Racing Team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Interesting to see if Østberg will have his run by Adapta/Team Østberg.
PS: It's Ö in Sweden and Ø in Norway and Denmark :) .. same sound but differnt letter
Ö also in Finland, like in Grönholm for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
no, it's CZECH FORD NATIONAL TEAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Ö is also in Estonian, but still i write östberg, than copy-pasting Ø from somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
;) please do!!Quote:
Originally Posted by carmichael
But lets go back on the road, who are the 4 in the 2 M-Sport teams people ?
Ah, ok. I don't have this letter on my keyboard :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Yes and no... Prokop's team is Jipocar Racing but they are entered in WRC as Czech Ford National Team because they get some support from Ford and Czech ASN. Jipocar is a logistic company of Prokop's father.Quote:
Originally Posted by carmichael
so formally team's name is Czech Ford National Team, but in reality it's Jipocar Racing Team. Only the name has changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's very common in WRC that entry-name is different from team-name. E.g. the M2 team Armindo Arauju WRC is the entry name but the team running/preparing the car is Motorsport Italia.Quote:
Originally Posted by carmichael
Also Paulo Nobre's Palmeirinha Rally M2 team is run by Motorsport Italia
There is some room on the Manufactuere list for M2 teams
1-2 Citroen
3-4 Ford WRT
5-6 M-Sport
7-11 ......
12 Armindo Araujo WRC
14 Palmeirinha Rally
and Mini has the historic 37 and 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Who are the same as Ralliart Italy, as Kosciuszko's car is run by them too :)
In RMC Ott Tänak and Evgeny Novikov are nominated by M-Sport Ford World Rally Team, which has also entered 1994 Monte Carlo winner François Delecour.
Martin Prokop are entered by the Czech Ford National Team.
Individual entries have been placed by Matthew Wilson, Henning Solberg and Julien Maurin.
I think the plan is for Solberg and Wilson to form an second "M-Sport Ford World Rally Team"
maybe, but leading driver in that team throughout the season will be tänak!Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
There are one M-Sport Ford World Rally team, what is nominated two cars for points.
Tänak is leading driver and Novikov likes the other nominated driver for Monte Carlo and Sweden.
There is not yet another M-Sport affiliated team like we had last year: Munchi's, Ferm, Monster.
These teams have still a link on the website of M-Sport. Welcome to M-Sport
Maybe these team later make their announcement to be again a WRC team in 2012.
Ford is for now in with 'only' two teams what can score points. Ford as Manufacturer and M-Sport as WRC team.
Other drivers (Henning for example) are private-entry and one team-entry (Prokop), they can't score points for teams.
If you see I Rally both Henning and Mathew's Monteis in doubt due to sponsors money not coming through, so I guess another Ford team is (was) planned. This I think is the replacement for Stobart.
The new M-Sport Ford WRT with Tänak is the new Stobart M-Sport Ford WRT.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
"Replacing the M-Sport Stobart Ford World Rally Team as the WRC’s leading privateer, the M-Sport Ford World Rally Team will be hoping to emulate the successes of its predecessor’s final season and get its own 2012 campaign off to a flying start."
from: M-Sport look to speed and experience in the Principalirt
Novikov?! There's no super rally on this event.
Henning and Wilson have the same livery on their cars in Monte, so there is/was planned to form a team...
from the covered scheme at Hennings car i saw ,maybe is Samsung or again expert as the front bumper is orange.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
hmmm I see a white bumper on hennings car with black and red wrap on itQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
some pictures of wilson/henning cars please.....Quote:
Originally Posted by pucky54
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012 - szervizQuote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
seems the scheme perfect!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elayne
It seems that the second M-Sport Ford team will be called Go Fast Energy WRT.
Go Fast Energy World Rally Team - Mur | Facebook
The crews will be as expected Henning Solberg/Ilka Minor and Matthew Wilson/Scott Martin!
Seems that everything will be okay then if this is a legit facebook page offcourse..
Taking bets on how fast will they fold......
So now with Henning and Wilson in the same team, I guess Mads will run alone with Adapta?
Tänak is going to have new livery in Sweden:
M-SPORT AIM TO CONTINUE SUCCESSES IN SWEDEN | RallyBuzz
What does the Ford pull out mean to M-Sport?
Will they continue, but with more sponsors on the car?
Will they get full freedom to develop the Fiesta WRC further, and take over some engineers?
Or does it mean that 13 is the last season for the WRCars and that R5 takes over from 14, and Ford want to save money in 13, and concentrate on R5 development?