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Firstly Steve it should be called an iPod Touch jumbo because that's what it is and secondly Tablet PC's are crap unless you're using it as a replacement for a clipboard and how often do most people need clipboards?
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Firstly Steve it should be called an iPod Touch jumbo because that's what it is and secondly Tablet PC's are crap unless you're using it as a replacement for a clipboard and how often do most people need clipboards?
The analysts are saying that you can mark this as the day that Apple changed the E-reader market forever. First year sales are predicted to be about 3 million a year. I've been looking forward to this (like many people) for awhile. I was going to get an iPod Touch last year. But I decided to wait until after this thing came out. I'll definitely get one, but I'm going to wait for the second generation, so that the bugs will be mostly worked out. The only area of concern is its size and without a way to hold it better, seems like it would be easy to drop. Someone (or a whole bunch of someones) will probably make a case or holder for it.
Good job by Jobs and Apple on hyping this. I continue to be a happy AAPL shareholder. Next stop, $230/share (I hope).
Personally I see this as the first flop for Apple after a long string of successes. With the iPod it was such a fantastic replacement for early MP3 players and CD players, (misguided) people see the MacBooks and iMac's as great replacement for a PC, an iPhone is a great way to replace your phone and have a decent MP3 player etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
What does the iPad do that people want it to do? When did someone last say "you know what? I want a laptop that I can't write with accurately with quickly (it's got no keyboard of course and you can't use a stylus) and that I can't fold up and that I can't just plonk on a desk and use like a laptop. OH and what I REAAAAAALLY want is to pay for a data plan for my iPhone AND my iPad! That'd be so awesome!!!!"
See here for some impartial criticisms
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Deliv...ticle17459.htm
We'll have to see. One thing I've learned over the past 20 years or so is not to underestimate Apple, even when it produces something that's not a raging success. I think the Kindle goes for about $300 +/-. Even the entry level iPad (at $499) does everything the Kindle does, does it better and does a LOT more. It seems superior to a netbook. And you can get it with or without a data plan through AT&T. I don't know, but that's all from the Bloomberg report.
The iPod didn't take off in its first year but Apple built it into a monster. If I believed this was going to tank, maybe I'd short AAPL or at least get out. But shorting AAPL usually proves to be a good way to empty out your trading account.
You look at something like Apple TV. Now that hasn't done so well - and Jobs doesn't care. But Apple tends to learn from things that are seen as little more than hobbies to keep the engineers busy. So I figure what the iPad will be by 2011 or 2012 will be somewhat different than what it is now.
If I'm good this year, I expect Santa will bring me an iPad this Christmas. :D
I've never understood the hype behind Apple and its products. For me they offer nothing really new and everything is somehow restricted/controlled. For example it's year 2010 and you cannot even add memory to the iPhone and I'm sure the iPad has some sort of restrictions as well. Maybe they are nice for many people, but for a tech-freak like me they do nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
On a netbook you canQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
A) Use flash
B) Type as fast as your fingers can manage
C) Put it on a table and adjust it to a perfect angle and type with both hands
It's not a kindle competitor either because it's not got an "e-ink" screen so it's not as comfotable to read as a Kindle or one of the Sony readers. The whole point of a reader is to give the experience of reading a book, the iPad won't do that.
Read some of the comments on that page, they summarise the failings of the iPad pretty well.
Amen to that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I had an iPod G3 and to be fair when I got it it was great even if iTunes was a collosal turd of a thing to use. The rest of the Apple products however I don't get at all.
The people who generally buy Apple stuff are usually not the most educated of people and seem to think that Apple invented a lot of technology when all they did was repackage it.
So it's like an e-reader without the battery life or like a laptop without the flexibility? Only it costs slightly more than either or indeed both? Hmm, where do I collect my black polo neck?
To quote a Mapple store employee...... “Who dares question the boss we fired 10 years ago and then brought back!”Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
A lot of people have underestimated Steve Jobs and his ideas Daniel, but on this one, I think you are right.
Probably the gadget to end all gadgets.
iTampon is trending up on DIGG dot com
I haven't had a chance to read the comments in your link yet. But exactly how would anyone be able to critique a device that hasn't even been released yet? They already know its failings and yet, (even to Bloomberg), access was limited. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Anyway, it is being touted as a Kindle competitor. The proof will be in the pudding. Actual customer experiences and reviews will determine whether it's successful or not. Guessing, based on what a handful of people may have to say, is like trying to determine next season's F1 WDC or WCC based on testing times...
We'll see what this is really about when it's released and they wave the checkers.
There's a lot we DO know though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
For instance the Apple's screen is backlit which is a big no no when it comes to reading text for hours upon hours like you do with a book.
Kindle is a dedicated reader
http://www.popgadget.net/images/amazon-kindle.jpg
I love my iPhone but there really is nothing else in the Apple product portfolio that I would want to buy. Count me out of the iPad reservation list.
This thread has reminded me of my mate who cant wait to read loads of books on his Sony Reader thing when he goes on holiday to the Maldives in a couple of months. He's bought his Sony thing especially. I just think if that's all you plan to do you might as well save some money and use your Sony Reader in Spain, Italy or anywhere else with sun that is both closer and cheaper. :s I'm neither a gadget or do nothing holiday person. I just don't get it.
Is it only me or does anyone else think this looks like a small laptop without a cover?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Its worth saying that this iPad is only running a similar OS to the iTouch/iPhone and hence, can't multitask. So it can't even be compared to a Linux/Windows Netbook.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I think it takes a lot for an Apple product to bomb so I really don't think this will bomb, at least not straight away anyway. Like I said, tablet PC's have never been popular and not for lack of trying too! When I used to work for a HP, Compaq, IBM and Toshiba repair place you'd occasionally get someone in with a tablet and out of interest I'd always ask them if they liked it and I'd say 90% weren't really all that impressed.
LOL!
Ipod Touch XXL or has Steve Jobs or did actually used an Ishrunk on himself?!
I can see the attraction of netbooks but preferably after a portable media player like the Ipod Touch but a bit bigger but definitely not Ipad size.
Interesting product. Possibly a bit too similar to the iPhone but then I guess it depends on what applications are developed for it. That is what will make or break the iPad, and Apple were smart enough to ensure that the pre-existing Apps already work on it. Apparently it can't multi-task, which is odd, but they say OS4.0 is in the works so who knows what that will bring.
I hope it is able to connect to external displays. If that's the case then I can see it being really useful for Conferences - no need to lug around a laptop as I could run my presentation from an iPad with no fuss.
Something with an iPhone OS is probably not going to be able to run external displays
I was really looking forward to the iPad, but it seems pretty useless.
Don't see the attraction. $500 for 16 GB of hard drive space? No thanks!
It would appear that the internet thinks something else:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225824254393
TWITTER users have responded snarkily to the name of Apple's latest innovation the iPad, pushing the phrase "iTampon" to a number two trending topic on the microblogging site.
Are users waiting for the iTampon because it would be smaller than an iPad? Does it come with it's own applicator? Maybe Apple should have used an iPhone before releasing this under it's current name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrsfeyLzyg
Unfortunately named product? There's an app for that!
I've seen jailbroken iphones being able to connect to external displays, so I'd imagine that the iPad can. Gizmodo (whatever that is) says it should be able to as well. Time will tell!
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Originally Posted by GridGirl
Too true! I can kind of see the point in taking a book away with you. For us there is always that downtime between getting back from whatever we've been doing through the day and going out for the evening. But if your sole purpose is to sit on a beach and read a book and not go anywhere, you might as well stay at home!
...............well, a couple of sunlamps installed in the lounge would help; and that's a lot cheaper than flying off to Europe and paying rent there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
When I was doing my campervan thing in Europe, we were able to get books from libraries where we camped, and there was an exchange system where you simply left the books you finished reading, and took out theirs. (free).
I would thbik that buying an ipad simply as a means of reading while on holiday sorta defeats the idea of a holiday.
OK I take that back. But of course it's not out of the box support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewmcm
So what do we know this morning?
The screen will suck battery life, making it a poor competitor for the Kindle et al e-readers, and knowing Apple the battery won't be user-replacable so bang goes carrying a spare.
Sparse storage for its price and no obvious way of connecting a hard drive, USB key or even an SD card.
Wireless keyboard which presumably means an Apple branded one only, no chance of using your favourite ergonomic keyboard.
No external display so there goes any chance of using it as a media player at home or in the office.
No camera - still or video - limiting its use still further.
No multitasking, even my Nokia can handle that and blummin' useful it is too.
Still no support for Flash, which even though it can be evil sometimes is still among the most widespread code on the t'internet - that'll really please advertisers.
Early versions won't have 3G capability, so as usual with Apple the early adopters are shafted when the upgraded version comes out.
I honestly don't get who this is aimed at. If you want an e-reader there are better and cheaper; if you want a proper laptop then this doesn't come close; and if you want a netbook then again there are far better and cheaper out there. I really think they've messed up with this one.
Oh wait! Of course, it's shiny and has an Apple badge.... silly me - it'll sell in its thousands. :s
Of course it will! Apple have always been very good, firstly at marketing, secondly at user interface design. What they aren't so good on is the hardware and features side of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
News is that it'll cost $499 in the USA. What's to bet it'll be £499 in the UK.
Although Radio 1 puzzled me this morning, they said "It's bigger than an iPhone and a lot more expensive too". Really? Even if we take a direct translation of $499 to £308, to buy an unlocked iPhone is in the region of £800, well over double the price of the tablet :s
I wonder if it's saving grace might come in the form of a network subsidy if you buy the 3G version. But to make that attractive you'd surely have to offer voice calls, presumably via a Bluetooth headset unless you want to look like Dom Jolly. This thing can't even handle SMS out of the box.
That's the problem though, it's too big to be a phone and not enough use as a laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
My boss carried a tablet PC around with him for a while and he gave up and has started carrying a proper laptop again.
Me, I don't bother with either!
Good summary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
My next visit to London will be fun, there are enough people on the tube with the white buds of smugness, now there will be people with tablets :laugh:
"Yes, I think she has seen it. Ergonomic-management-keyboard!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Nobody with iPods in North Wales then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I could use something like that as a media center remote controller. A friend of mine has a setup with a big(ish) tv and a linux box which has a tv in it. It's a bit of pain to use the internet on it with his wireless keyboard.
So that could be used to control it and used a s couch computer screen for IRC and forum messaging. :) Or a Nokia N900. :)
Yes but we don't have der tube hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Look-uPod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Sorry :erm:
Logitech do some good quality proper media centre remotes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/re...otes/&cl=gb,en
Got myself a £15 media centre remote the other day and must say that Windows Media Centre with a remote is awesome :)
If you were on the move, where the heck would you put it when not in use?
Well quite. You'll need a laptop case of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce