Ooh, also wanted to give props to Alex DeAnglis for his sterling ride after copping a ride through penalty, Bradley Smith also for his strong ride and Ant West for improving about 20 positions - only to get beaten by his pesky teammate!
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Ooh, also wanted to give props to Alex DeAnglis for his sterling ride after copping a ride through penalty, Bradley Smith also for his strong ride and Ant West for improving about 20 positions - only to get beaten by his pesky teammate!
Then we'd have all laughed at him like we laugh at Max.Quote:
Originally Posted by suzukimad07
Re Rossi worship. It's kinda hard not to rave about the guy, his MotoGP career is absolutely sensational and he's done it up against some pretty tough opponents. I've always liked the story of the 'curse' he put on Gibernau, even if the reasons that the guy didn't win another race were completely unrelated (like hitting a damp track at Estoril when he was miles out in front).
The move was risky but it wasn't reckless, he was quicker and there was a gap and, to quote Ayrton Senna, "if you no longer go for the gap, you're no longer a racing driver". Given the same situation I'd expect, nay want, Stoner to make the same move.
I think the people that find Rossi worship frustrating are quite obviously Stoner or Lorenzo fans, and probably can't stand him for what he did to Stoner in 2008 or to Lorenzo in 2009. Hey, I'll hate him too if he beat my favorite rider and continues to have tussles with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Love him or hate him, can't deny that he is the greatest motorcycle racer ever, whether by statistics or racecraft, or simply going by how many fans love him.
I don't think that's true. Thinking that someone can do no wrong is irritating, whether or not you adore the person. Rossi is human. He's not perfect. Nobody is. Obviously he's a great racer, I'm not denying that, but the worship can get a little extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-ecutioner
Casey is not letting this go, is he? - http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/s...shing+in+jerez
Now, he wants Rossi to apologize, but also wants him to do it his way. All Rossi did was go straight to the Repsol Honda garage to apologize as soon as the race ended. What more does Stoner want? As if mocking his shoulder and taking a cheap shot wasn't enough, now it should have been done his way. :rolleyes: Rossi came to your garage to apologize to you, didn't he? Casey needs to man-up. These prima donna reactions show that he's emotionally still not able to put 2008 behind him.Quote:
”For sure, I would prefer if Valentino did it away from the cameras and would say something to me quietly without always having to have proof,” commented Stoner. ”For sure Valentino doesn’t do this for himself, he just wants to show to everybody that he has apologised. Yes it’s a nice gesture, it’s very good, but it still doesn’t change the result today, so we’ll see what happens in the next races.”
Anyway, all in all it spices things up really nice. If the Ducati reaches the level of the Hondas and the Yamahas, we could have an all out gob-smacking war at the front. Who wants goody-huggy rivals in any sport anyway. Roll on Estoril! :p
Nobody is worshipping him, and if you read my earlier post, I never said that Rossi didn't do anything wrong. Here, let me quote myself. I said "It was an amazing race until the crash on lap 7. Stupid move by Rossi, he went in too hot and too ambitious and ruined not only his race, but also Stoner's, who was at no fault." So, I clearly acknowledged that it was Rossi's stupidity, and his alone, that robbed us all of what could have been a great race. He could have been patient and overtaken Stoner next lap, but of course he didn't have his head screwed on right, too eager.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarahelizabeth
My bone is with what happened later. Rossi went to Stoner to apologize. Stoner could have been magnanimous and more appreciative of the gesture, but was a bit too ironic and bitchy for my taste. That's all.
I wasn't talking about you! I was referring to comments I've heard in other places (I should have clarified - I'm sorry if it came across as a personal attack). I do agree that Stoner should have accepted the apology with good grace, though. This hoo-hah about him not apologising properly is rather melodramatic, considering Rossi headed over to apologise right after the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-ecutioner
Does make for an exciting competition, though, I must admit. :P
Oops, my bad then. As a Rossi fan, I thought your post was directed towards me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sarahelizabeth
I'm just salivating at the thought of the last 3 races coming down to a last lunge between Rossi, Lorenzo and Stoner, and Pedrosa as a dark horse with this bad blood brewing a bit more and reaching fever pitch. Some elbowing and fingers in the air also welcome. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by sarahelizabeth
Sadly the Ducati in dry is not at a top level right now, fingers crossed though.
Yep, pretty much my thoughts on the incident - clearly no malice and just a racing incident in the conditions and I have no problem with Casey's reaction. Asking Valentino about his shoulder was racer's opportunism, trying to get a key bit of info about a rival at a crucial time while Valentino's feeling guilty about the crash - I'd have done the same. In the karting championship I run in, one of my former rivals (my team got promoted this year) described himself as 'always the first one to come and apologise' after crashing into someone - to which the jokey response is 'well, you're always the first one to crash into us to start with'...(said with a large grin)Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaMaster
Mika Kallio's save is here (it was Yonny Hernandez behind):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b__yZ7-zYoI
Not as good as this one from 2009 though from Raffaele de Rosa (any excuse!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz16KvYYQw4