Would it not be awesome if Lance Stroll wins this race.
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Would it not be awesome if Lance Stroll wins this race.
Mercedes has F**ked up
Possible podium for... Haas! :D:bounce:
My money is on Ocon to win the race
Bottas just cannot take the fight to Ocon.
Bottas gets the job done. It is looking like a Bottas win on the cards
cruel loss of a race for Hamilton via a head rest.
Come on Lance
im disgusted at the stewards
Ricciado may have this one in the bag, Bottas running out of time.
Interesting weekend for 'Women in charge',... One will be sippin' champagne, while the other will be packing up her bags.
Feck.
Mercedes powered Mercedes are still slightly more awesome than a Williams Mercedes.
Crazy race. Well done to the top 3.
Last second (and do we mean 'second') pass by Bottas takes second from Strol. Live and learn son, live and learn.
Another example though of why lapped cars should drop to the back of the SC snake. Not unlap themselves. I know it wasnt his fault but he lost a lap.
Artificial means gave him a podium and cost Stroll. Bad luck but great drive.
agreed. at the end of the day the pit crew cost him the race. what a ridiculous oversight
he would have won it and taken over the championship lead too. but Vettel should have they should have also stayed out a bit longer to see if the problem could be fixed or at the very least after the vettel penalty so that vettel does not get a chance to put 2/3 laps in clean air. another oversight. But Vettel should have been black flagged for his actions plain and simple.
What a bizzare race? Ferrari would be kicking themselves as they have lost out in constructors points to Mercedes. Hamilton would certainly not be very impressed as the team has effectively done a Monaco to him again.
Driver of the day - Bottas
Pass of the day - Ricciardo
Donkey of the day - Renault drivers
Highlight of the day - Seb taking a swipe at Lewis
Yeah , baby , first podium for a Canuck in a while !
Sensible race driving in a nonsensical race .
Silver , pink , and red cars all had issues , like I predicted , but it didn't all happen on the first lap as I thought it would .
Nice chase-down at the end , fitting for such a crazy outing .
I also love how ocon saved all his fighting spirit for hamilton but let vettel breeze bye
I would hope that further action is taken against him, after the race. I disagree that a season ban is out of order. As a F1 driver your super license is given to you in faith that you are skilled mentally to take the heat. You cannot under any circumstance use your car as a weapon. He is a spoiled little kid that needs a good lesson. For years he has been given liberties that no other driver had and keeps getting away with things no other driver would time after time. This is the result along with the likes of Mexico last year. He needs to be banned for the season and until such time as he apologised to Hamilton and the fans for his behaviour. That will bring him down to size.
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the fairy tale turnaround for Stroll continues. a good result for him and williams. sad for Massa though and it could have been a 2/3 for them as well
that being said. there were 2 penalties to be honest.
1. driving into the back of lewis, because the SC was pulling in and Hamilton had the right to determine the pack for the restart. 2. he deliberately hits another car, the leading car at that.
and all he gets is 10 second stop and go?
Kvyatt got worse in the last race for nothing
I'm done with the guest stewards system. i want 1 group consistent for all races and better clarification as to the proper penalty for hitting another car deliberately. What if he broke his suspensions and had to retire? SMH.
And that just shows the shambles of the F1 disciplinary system and how inconsistent it is. Unfortunately I don't believe the penalty can be appealed but I don't see any reason why he can't get further punishment for behaviour not befitting a F1 driver. He's a deluded little bollox as well, in his interview afterwards he says Hamilton brake tested him but he didn't. It's up to vettel to judge and read the situation correctly. Fair enough the first bit of contact - it was a mistake on Vettel'a behalf, the issue is the second one. Ban for the rest of the season is what should happen.
And who is to say that Hamilton's head rest wasn't broken because of what Vettel did but the problem didn't show until after the restart.
This is a bad day for F1 to be honest. Not alone do they show that drivers can get away with cheating once again but that dangerous driver behaviour is okay. Vettel also gets 3 penalty points which, unless he does something similar in Austria and gets another 3 points, means nothing as he now has 9 on his license. 12 = 1 race ban.
I disagree with the Bottas incident. I don't think he could have done anything else. Running over the kerb meant he was launched into Kimi. Racing first lap incident and I think the Stewards did the right thing there.
Thanks , Taz .
I was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing , wondering if he could take the heat .
Whereas the rest of them struggle to find the feel , it looks like he's just finding out what a good set-up feels like .
I see good things coming for the lad , and it's nice to be considering buying a new hat some time soon .
bottas destroyed Kimis race once Moore, I´m gutted!
I fail to see how Vettel's driving into Hamilton is any better than Jerez 97, it's worse if anything. Schumacher was disqualified from the championship back then and likewise Vettel should be disqualified from the championship this year.
Well that certainly wasn't boring...
Plenty to talk about. As many have suggested, I think Vettel got of very lightly; the tap from behind was pretty inconsequential (but clearly on him) but that swerve banging wheels was outrageous. I really can't see how that's not a DSQ, or at this point a suspension from the next race. Vettel's post race reaction clearly indicates that the message has not been received.
Oh, and Bottas should have been penalized for the first lap incident with Kimi. Regular stuff that happens in close racing, but clearly on Bottas, and pretty much wrecked Kimi's race.
Edit: ok, having gone and looked at the replay again I'm not so sure now. It looks like Kimi squeezed Valtteri pretty aggressively at the apex, forcing him to run over the kerbs on the inside. That contributed to him taking the exit wide and pushing Kimi into the wall.
The officiating in F1 has been a joke since the 1980s and the reign of FISA president Jean-Marie Balestre.
I wouldn't disqualify Vettel from the championship. I'd just revoke his licence for 2 calendar years. He can keep all his championship points all he likes; they wouldn't really matter.
Of course that would effectively ruin his 2017, 2018 and 2019 championship hopes... too bad.
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Exactly, the inconsistency of the penalty is staggering. When you look at it from the Kyvat penalty which was quite bizzare in its self, it begins to look prejudicial in the face of Vettel's penalty. There is still a real problem with inconsistency and favoritism in the deliberation of the stewards this season. I wonder who the stewards were for the Baku race, they should be avoided in the future, in my opinion, they were scrap and lack any sense of fair play.
This race was brilliant and incredibly bizzare. We got to see some of the worst conducts of F1 drivers and how they have penalized their teams with a loss of constructors points by their conduct.
1. Vettel should have won that race if he had kept his head, but didn't and cost Ferrari some quite achievable constructors point by his red mist moment.
2. Ocon effectively smoked a chunk of Force India's very strong potential points haul by a wreckless maneuver that ended Perez's race and drop himself a couple of places.
It was a race to forget for Kimi who seemed to be a magnet for other drivers misjudgement. Magnussen came good for Haas, while Grojeans moaned and cursed his brakes throughout the race, Kmag propelled the Haas to a potential podium at one point during the race. It was a very strong showing.
Lance Stroll has suddenly become the golden boy of the moment, as he picked up his first F1 podium. Like stealing a lollie from a child, Bottas pounced at the dying minute to steal 2nd from a brilliant Stroll
I think Vettel's penalty was a joke. Purposely driving in another driver should be more severely punished. Black flag and a race ban wouldn't be too much, but a ban for the rest of the season maybe a bit harsh at this point. Another one like this and yes, I'd agree with it. And some mandatory psychological therapy should be in order. His hysterical behavior seems to be getting out of control. They guy seems to be having some big anger issues. And just to be clear, I very much dislike both Hamilton and Vettel, so I think I'm quite objective here :laugh: