Drivers like Bertelli, Prokop etc. for sure are not prohibited by FIA to drive the new cars.
Ban is meant for real gentleman drivers.
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Sebastien Ogier completes first full test M-Sport ahead of 2017 WRC
Sebastien Ogier has completed his first full test in M-Sport's Ford Fiesta WRC ahead of the 2017 World Rally Championship season.
The four-time world champion, who was confirmed at the British team earlier this week, has been driving the car close to Are in northern Sweden, on snow.
Having completed around 150 miles of running on Wednesday, he and co-driver Julien Ingrassia were expected to repeat that distance on Thursday.
The pair will now go on holiday and return to the test Fiesta in the second week in January for their Monte Carlo Rally preparations.
Team principal Malcolm Wilson told Autosport: "I spoke to Sebastien after the first day and he was happy.
"I have to say, there wasn't really a lot to report.
"They were running on a fast road and raised a couple of small things which we can easily sort."
What Ogier's deal means for M-Sport and the WRC
Ogier's only running in the car prior to the test in the snow was around 25 miles in Wales last month.
Wilson is confident that, while Ogier's time in the car will be short before the 2017 season opener, it will be enough for him to find his feet.
"We've done a lot of testing on asphalt," said Wilson, "and we're confident in the car's performance.
"If you look at how quickly he's adapted to the car, I really don't see it being a problem for him.
"I have no concerns about that at all."
The Cumbrian added that he was delighted with the positive reaction to M-Sport's signing of the defending champions.
"It's a fantastic feeling," he said, "and that goes right through the whole staff at M-Sport - it's had such a positive effect across the board.
"I've already seen some of the documentation and dealings with Julien and with Seb and they are very, very professional.
"Like I said before, it's now no surprise that they are four-time champions.
"They're very focused on the job and looking to get themselves in the best position possible to take a fifth straight title."
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I don't agree with that. In the past very few tragic accidents happened with WRC cars even though many were driven by non-talented rich drivers without proper team support behind them (setups, up to date spare parts etc.). By far most of the tragedies are connected with gr.N cars or even small 2WD cars which are a lot less powerful but have a lot worse suspension.
i dont know if i see right but it looks like Ingrassia has rally estonia trophy helmet on this pic!
this one from 2014 when Tänak won
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https://youtu.be/flIYsDFPClo
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Intensive test for JML in France with Toyota : full gallery => http://bit.ly/2gG9YTL
Toyota Jaris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcAjHWBUZXc
Am I the only one that thinks the new cars are less spectacular? They are louder (so what?), but they seem to be more stable, move around less, and change direction less quickly.
Looks wise they may be more "spectacular", but they don't look good. The styling is more like a teenager's first car that's been pimped in poor taste.
The spectacle is in the eyes of the beholder.
so far from the tests
1. Citroen
2. Hyundai
3. Ford
4. the local village bus from kuvola to helsinki
5. some garbage alley cat chased by 2 hungry garbage dogs that have 3 weeks to have a proper garbage meal
6. toyota village team
Bloody hell, that C3 is a monster! Glued to the ground, so stable and what a cornering speed. I'm impressed. Citroen always has been one of the best in the black stuff but if that pace could be delivered in the gravel, Meeke could have been a serious contender.
What a surprise…
For sure ’17 cars will among the safer rally cars ever, despite being more powerful and more demanding to drive, but common sense and basic motorsport knowledge also makes clear than less gifted drivers will tend to make more mistakes in faster cars.
Driving it’s not all about head and heart, it also takes skills and guys like Bertelli (nothing against him…) are limited on that department. Still they naturally try to push beyond their limits, making room for accidents. The Italian had 3 or 4 big crashes during this season; it’s not hard to believe that more will happen if he gets behind the wheel of a ’17 car. The same could be said of guys like Camilli or Al-Rhaji, among others.
’17 cars are the best solution rally stockholders (FIA, RB/MH, manus, organizers…) managed to get in order to revamp WRC. It looks great, but like any other solution it has risks. Those must be manageable, other way they turn into threats.
Probably nobody imagined that the new cars would be so fast so quickly. MC will, most likely, confirm that the speed increase (s/km) is already notorious, and it’s only the season’s first rally.
FIA doesn’t need to get alarmed or scared, just cautious and ready to act in a preventive way. For sure they’re already following the tests and talking to manus, in order to get a perfect idea of what’s going on and improve, if necessary, rally safety standards. Increasing spectator control and limiting driver’s access to the new cars seems reasonable ways to do it.
imho new wrc cars are NOT more dangerous than previous wrc cars at private pilots hands like Bertelli Prokop etc.
Meeke again
https://youtu.be/4FZ89vFc6Xw
Not idiots, but thiefs. Moneywise.
At all Meeke videos have a spot of light from left front arch from optical sensor? Does it mean that C3 still in development process and this tests not only basic preparation for Monte?
VW did his last scheduled Polo 17 test near month ago. Hyundai's test seems be part of Monte preparation and not developing.
Does that fact that C3, in this stage (in month before Monte), have that sensor - told is a bit of problem with a car? And they try to fix or find solution to sort that problem?
Because I didn't see that sensor in normal, pre-event, testing.
TEST KRIS MEEKE MONTE CARLO 2017 , DAY 2 by lololwrc05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=237DsPpqf2Y
Traxx - WR is Free @Traxx_WiF @JariMattiWRC coming back to the service with lost parts in the boot !
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No, the spectacles are on the nose of the beholder!!
Meanwhile it seems it didn't take JML long to become acquainted with the part numbers catalogue for the Yaris. Hope they factored his damage frequency in to their budget, maybe he pays for breakages (could end up owing Tommi money by the end of '17)
I dont think them bits in his boot are off that car. They are black and white pattened bits that are off the other car with all the new aero package. Not off the white car.
Steve
Watching the video I think maybe it would be better to make the aerodynamics from more parts. (Make totally on purpose some strips/ streaks where in case of impact it can break away easily) I mean when you hit the tree with right rear end of your car you loose only right rear part of aerodynamics and another 2/3 of aerodynamics at the rear are still working properly. This was very small "kiss" and he lost it all.
JML back to usual. With the Ogier-developed Polo-tank we thought he finally changed his style and tamed his swirling rear, but it's not like that anymore with Toyota with stock suspension from road car.
Meeke crash, still the best.
Latvala crash, and he is bad.
Sometimes can't understad fans.