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World Rallycross Championship a.k.a RALLYX

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Cant the moderators or whoever make a sub forum rather than putting it into WRC? After all there are sections for other type of racing, and with Peugeot now being involved in WRX, and Petter, and Ford as well it makes sense to have a sub forum for it.
 
no it doesn't... nobody will bother with the sport of the has beens...

lets keep this one and if it gets a 1000 responses when the championship starts we can have a forum.
 
Even with Peugeot officially involved I don't think I'll follow this championship...I prefer classic rallies :rolleyes:
 
I see HUGE potential with World Rallycross Championship! Having followed ERC back in the 80's when it was great, it's time this great motorsport gets a worldchampion value :up:
 
A.F.F. said:
I see HUGE potential with World Rallycross Championship! Having followed ERC back in the 80's when it was great, it's time this great motorsport gets a worldchampion value :up:
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Totally agree!
 
I'm really looking forward to the RX season. I think it's going to be a great show. Even as a die-hard "everything-else-but-48km-of-pure-misery=isn't rally" traditional rally fan (at least I like to think so :colour: ) I can't help to be drawn to this category.

I would love it if Solberg did well this year. Say what you want but the guy is passionate for sure. OT but WRC would need some of these guys to crack it up a bit like in the good ol' days. Like listening to RR on rally Sweden you just can't stop smiling when Henning finishes a stage.

I think Solberg and Doran have some unfinished business from last year and of course Solberg has a new engine supplier and 1 year of experience.

As for the has beens- isn't it better to round them all up in RX and maybe pave way for some fresh meat in the WRC?
 
Just out if curiosity, how similar are the RallyX Supercars to World Rally Cars? I noticed that there is already a Supercar version of the i20, so it obviously cannot be hard to convert a car from one class to the other.
 
RallyX and WRC are very different. If you compare FIA appendix J art. 279 (RX) and art. 255 (WRC) then you have your good night reading in store for a good while. :crazy:

They do share some things (except for the looks).
- Both categories must use a standard engine block as base (in WRC they use standard head too).
- The WRC cars are homologated while the RX supercars have to be recognizable with a standard car regularly on sale (can of course use a FIA homologated car).
- Both WRC and RX supercars have to be based on a 4 seat, closed non-convertible type road legal car.
- Both use front and rear differentials all which have to be mechanical (Supercars can have hydraulic central diff of a non-adjustable type)

A few major differences:

WRC
The WRC cars have much less freedom on the technical side. The regulations states that:

- Up to 1.6 litre 4 cylindre turbocharged petrol engine with minumum weight
- Direct injection
- Max boost of 2.5 bar absoulte
- Max rev limit 8500 rpm
- 33mm restrictor (meaning the engines will produce 'around' 300 BHP)
- 1200 kg minimum weight
- 1820mm maximum width
- A regulated position for the centre of gravity
- Road legal with lights, number plates and so on (ask Gronholm in 2003 Rally GB if all that was necessary)

and the list goes on forever.

RALLYX supercars
- Up to 2.058 litre supercharged 4 cylinder petrol engine (2.33 litres for diesel).
-The block must derive from the same reg. trademarks original block as the cars original bodywork (If car looks like Citroen then block needs to be Citroen)
- 45mm restrictor (power around 600 BHP)
- Minimum car weight depending on engine size
- Bigger brakes than WRC cars if one wants, adjustable brake balance in-car
- Free rim size (max 18")
- Cars must have sprung suspension, other than that it's free (you can use hydropneumatic suspension if you like - cool!)
- Free positioning of water radiator(s) (eg. mounted in the rear)

The RALLYX cars have much less regulations stipulating what can and can't be done. And you have to bear in mind the fact that RX have to withstand a certain amount of bashing. So many differences between the two categories comes from that

Note when I say "free" I mean the regulations are free

Feel free to fill in here and of course expressing your fury over my so called knowledge.
 
Prisoner Monkeys said:
Just out if curiosity, how similar are the RallyX Supercars to World Rally Cars? I noticed that there is already a Supercar version of the i20, so it obviously cannot be hard to convert a car from one class to the other.
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And possibly (I'm not sure) it's easier to use an already FIA homologated car.
 
MJW said:
Cant the moderators or whoever make a sub forum rather than putting it into WRC? After all there are sections for other type of racing, and with Peugeot now being involved in WRX, and Petter, and Ford as well it makes sense to have a sub forum for it.
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N.O.T said:
no it doesn't... nobody will bother with the sport of the has beens...

lets keep this one and if it gets a 1000 responses when the championship starts we can have a forum.
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I made a suggestion for additional sub forums in December 2012:

viewtopic.php?f=93&t=156414


I know Ramona Karlsson is trying to find sponsors for a season in RallyX but IMO I don't think she'll find
enough sponsors to secure a seat for the World Championship so I think She'll have to settle for national series
or possible Euro RX championship.
 
In Sweden everything involving 4 wheels and an engine is regarded as a threat to the polar bears. She will get nothing...
 
Hasselhoax said:
Prisoner Monkeys said:
Just out if curiosity, how similar are the RallyX Supercars to World Rally Cars? I noticed that there is already a Supercar version of the i20, so it obviously cannot be hard to convert a car from one class to the other.
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And possibly (I'm not sure) it's easier to use an already FIA homologated car.
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Thanks for that. I was just surprised that they turned the i20 Supercar around so quickly. The cars are fairly tightly-packaged, so I was curious as to the scope for development.
 
BleAivano said:
MJW said:
Cant the moderators or whoever make a sub forum rather than putting it into WRC? After all there are sections for other type of racing, and with Peugeot now being involved in WRX, and Petter, and Ford as well it makes sense to have a sub forum for it.
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N.O.T said:
no it doesn't... nobody will bother with the sport of the has beens...

lets keep this one and if it gets a 1000 responses when the championship starts we can have a forum.
Click to expand...

I made a suggestion for additional sub forums in December 2012:

http://www.motorsportforums.com/viewtop ... 3&t=156414


I know Ramona Karlsson is trying to find sponsors for a season in RallyX but IMO I don't think she'll find
enough sponsors to secure a seat for the World Championship so I think She'll have to settle for national series
or possible Euro RX championship.
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I was thinking NASCAR / GT racing / Dakar etc has a sub folder and it would be better for those who want to follow RX have their own sub forum, those like NOT wont then have to have their forum clogged up by has beens, ladyboy, village events type comments.
My own opinion is the jury is still out, but RX with the right promotion and tv and internet media could truimph over traditional rallying in attracting the new generation and sponsors, I have been told that Jost Capito is taking an interest for VW after WRC. Now if you look back at the VW way of doing things they utterly dominate then leave, look at what they did in Dakar, is their WRC presnece going to be the same? And for those who dont know it VW is providing a lot of the behind the scenes infrastructure and funding for WRC, look at the organisers cars, posters. I hear even the radio receives a subsidy :-)
 
@MJW

Hopefully VW sticks around for a while in WRC. Or before they leave 2-3 new manufacturers arrive and we have a good old battle royale between manufacturers. Maybe the future comes from China?

As for World RX: if it really catches on (which I for one know it did last year here in SWE - got sort of a breath of fresh air and new life) then the manufacturers like VW will go there.

I'm optimistic about it! :bounce:

PS We're on our way to 1000 posts...
 
In french mag' Auto Hebdo, Andersson said he was looking for Rallycross World Championship seat.

I think Sandell is doing it too, but in USA.
 
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