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Promoter news and rumours

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27Stan

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It's time this topic had its own thread.


Philipp Männer on mostly TV stuff, interesting points are
  • USA is the biggest market across social channels, so want an event there in 2027
  • Working on AI storytelling, and recent info overlay was response to fan wishes - I didn't test this yet and nobody commented on it.
 
Not that I dont trust this Promoter... but they once said they got really positive feedback from the public regarding the Electric Cars in World Rallycross. They said EVs were the Future of motorsport and that would propell Rallycross to a huge audience...
Now watching this felt almost like someone trying to sell something that "is big in America" and "uses AI"....
C'moon bro, "Biggest Market on Socials"?... He means theres LOADS of Americans cheering for Evans and Taka to beat Ogier this year?

(Sorry about the negativity)
 
Using AI for storytelling?
Save money from real journalists?
Not shure that will be a good move.

Maybe US is a big marked of social medias, but since wrc has been on those medias last 15 years or so, what is the numbers for last years and what numbers are they thinking they can bring?
I really hopes the promoter don't bite the hands that feeds them in the hunger of more wiews on tiktok....
 
Ivlian said:
C'moon bro, "Biggest Market on Socials"?... He means theres LOADS of Americans cheering for Evans and Taka to beat Ogier this year?
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"Biggest market" and yet the ARA is a ridiculously low level championship, with tiny entry lists (made of mostly 90's Subarus) that get dwarfed by the entry lists from much smaller countries, like Switzerland or Slovenia.
 
focus206 said:
"Biggest market" and yet the ARA is a ridiculously low level championship, with tiny entry lists (made of mostly 90's Subarus) that get dwarfed by the entry lists from much smaller countries, like Switzerland or Slovenia.
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on the other side, the bigger journalist resource nowadays, which is also the reference point for WRC and the one that injected money to save archives and sustain resources like ewrc, came from a rally school in the U.S.
 
Rallying in the USA is like soccer... no matter what you do it'll never be big like their national sports (NBA, NFL etc) or motorsports (IndyCar, Nascar).
 
wyler said:
on the other side, the bigger journalist resource nowadays, which is also the reference point for WRC and the one that injected money to save archives and sustain resources like ewrc, came from a rally school in the U.S.
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But the owner is a British who got into rallying during his earlier life there.
 
Fast-Eddie said:
Rallying in the USA is like soccer... no matter what you do it'll never be big like their national sports (NBA, NFL etc) or motorsports (IndyCar, Nascar).
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Yes, but a small sport in a big market can still be a big market for that sport.

It's like how there are more millionaires in india than in switzerland, the scale is just different.
 
US is third most populous country in the world, so no real surprise it would be number 1.

ARA entry lists, NFL, soccer... all moot points.
 
WRCStan said:
US is third most populous country in the world, so no real surprise it would be number 1.

ARA entry lists, NFL, soccer... all moot points.
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nitrocross had huge numbers on social media too. flying cars are something that get loads of eyeballs, and the social media guys were pros!
guess who folded after 3 races?
its the same thing. people keep pushing an american rx series but it doesnt work. it failed what, 6 times already? but they keep repeating "america is a huge market, they love motorsport. its gonna work this time because I know how to do it".
maybe its another F1 effect, like all series trying their crappy drive to survive series...
 
During Rally Estonia the current and new promotor met with the rally organizers and estonian media did an interview about it.

Here is a short summary with AI

The WRC is expected to enter a new era as the commercial rights are likely to be acquired by **Cosmobilis**, an investment group led by former Formula 1 executive **Eric Boullier**. Although the sale has taken significantly longer than initially expected, the transition process is now believed to be in its final stages. During this period, representatives of both the current and the prospective new promoter have been attending WRC events, meeting with organizers and evaluating the championship from both a sporting and commercial perspective before the handover is completed.

The new promoter's vision is to make the WRC more global and commercially attractive. This includes expanding into new markets such as the United States, Latin America, Asia (including China), and potentially additional African events, while strengthening the championship's international profile. As a result, competition for places on the WRC calendar is expected to become even tougher, with fewer opportunities for European rallies.

During his visit to Rally Estonia, Eric Boullier praised the event's organization and fan experience. Discussions with the organizers focused on how Rally Estonia could evolve further, attract more international visitors, and potentially increase its footprint by incorporating areas closer to Tallinn to improve accessibility and tourism appeal. The organizers remain cautiously optimistic about their future in the championship, with more clarity expected once the promoter transition is officially completed.
 
Again that sentence: in the final stages. They are repeating themselves again and again. Like any of us even believe anything anymore. And at the end does it even matter? We all just dreaming that there is line of teams/manufacturers waiting to finaly sign after promoter announcement, when there is actually no one, and even those who are here will give up eventually. Who are they kidding with building up tension?
 
Surely it's dragging on because they don't want to accept the shite and unachievable terms the FIA set. Lawyer ping pong.
 
Hmm yes, more global. Like China.

... WRX before it folded *cough* *cough*

Now is NOT the time to think big, now is the time to consolidate, but what do I know.

(But it's funny at least. Make regulations that make cars more "affordable", then make Championship less "affordable" by going god knows where)
 
trykmann said:
During Rally Estonia the current and new promotor met with the rally organizers and estonian media did an interview about it.

Here is a short summary with AI

The WRC is expected to enter a new era as the commercial rights are likely to be acquired by **Cosmobilis**, an investment group led by former Formula 1 executive **Eric Boullier**. Although the sale has taken significantly longer than initially expected, the transition process is now believed to be in its final stages. During this period, representatives of both the current and the prospective new promoter have been attending WRC events, meeting with organizers and evaluating the championship from both a sporting and commercial perspective before the handover is completed.

The new promoter's vision is to make the WRC more global and commercially attractive. This includes expanding into new markets such as the United States, Latin America, Asia (including China), and potentially additional African events, while strengthening the championship's international profile. As a result, competition for places on the WRC calendar is expected to become even tougher, with fewer opportunities for European rallies.

During his visit to Rally Estonia, Eric Boullier praised the event's organization and fan experience. Discussions with the organizers focused on how Rally Estonia could evolve further, attract more international visitors, and potentially increase its footprint by incorporating areas closer to Tallinn to improve accessibility and tourism appeal. The organizers remain cautiously optimistic about their future in the championship, with more clarity expected once the promoter transition is officially completed.
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It's interesting that there's pressure to be closer to the capital. Like yes, there's more people in the area but the roads...
 
It seems the goal is to make the events more like festivals with a lot of spectactors and good media coverage. The characteristics of the stages themselves may not be the most important aspect when choosing the location.

When comparing Estonia to other countries, then the lisasion sections wouldn't still be nothing extraordinary even if the drivers would have to drive from the capital to south for some stages.
 
trykmann said:
It seems the goal is to make the events more like festivals with a lot of spectactors and good media coverage. The characteristics of the stages themselves may not be the most important aspect when choosing the location.

When comparing Estonia to other countries, then the lisasion sections wouldn't still be nothing extraordinary even if the drivers would have to drive from the capital to south for some stages.
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I haven't been to Rally Estonia for years but I presume they have continued with the "bells and whistles" concept they had from the start. So it anyway sort of festival HQ.

Maybe with Estonia to move not to the capital but to just expand the geographical area. Like during Tänak era could had gone crazy and done a Saaremaa leg. It's easy to dismiss the roads but they do play a large role visually.

Rallyper said:
However keeping the Clerks of the course, may probably not harm quality of stages, I guess.
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I just hope that sanity wins
 
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