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M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

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So was the Lancia Ypsilon at first with only EV, then they added 1.2 ice engine with hybrid (probably because they realized that sales will not be so good). Remember that Ford is quite stupid right now, they killed their most profitable cars, go with their heads into the wall with "only EV"... And when sales significantly dropped they reconsidered bringing Fiesta back. Of course they will probably realize that they should put also ice engine in it.

That Fiesta is ugly as sh!t. Sorry, but it is. At least they could try to make it prettier. Of course rally render looks fantastic, but original.. awww, I'm throwing up.
 
It's sad and pretty pathetic that Ford (Europe) are planning just one new small hatchback and that an EV based on a Renault 5 platform.

And adding insult by calling all 5 planned new cars 'rally-bred' and to be 'sporty' just because they'll only tune the suspension.

Their previous great designers and engineers must be disgusted.
 
They will bring back the Focus too, eventually. It was a braindead decision to kill the whole line up and only sell the Puma in the mass market. PSA and Renault never abandoned the market and are now reapping the benefits.
 
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Hyundai do follow the same pattern. Killing their cars just to bring "new e-suvs".

It's also interesting how some brands which did have a really great herritage in rallying are now completely nowhere, I mean, Mitsubishi for example, maybe we could also mention Subaru, Lancia (they are at least trying to bring back their brand on the feet). It looks like those brands can't survive without rallying (it went down after they left WRC).
 
deephouse said:
Hyundai do follow the same pattern. Killing their cars just to bring "new e-suvs".

It's also interesting how some brands which did have a really great herritage in rallying are now completely nowhere, I mean, Mitsubishi for example, maybe we could also mention Subaru, Lancia (they are at least trying to bring back their brand on the feet). It looks like those brands can't survive without rallying (it went down after they left WRC).
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I think with Subaru it depends a lot on the markets. Like the amount of Subarus you see on the roads in Estonia is absurd compared to most countries in Europe.
 
deephouse said:
Really? Funny thing I always kinda saw Tanak in Subaru (if they would ever come back by the time he was/would be active)
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I think this high number of Subarus is not related to WRC. It's just that the a high percentage of rural or unpaved roads, and a local car culture that highly values practical, permanent all-wheel-drive.
 
flat_right said:
I think this high number of Subarus is not related to WRC. It's just that the a high percentage of rural or unpaved roads, and a local car culture that highly values practical, permanent all-wheel-drive.
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Think it was more of a good price and what you get ratio. And plenty of regular advertising. Definitely not connected to rallying.
 
They can probably bolt the Fiesta WRC 17 aero on the Rally 2 and be good to go. Guess M-Sport was pushing for that scenario. Possible Hyundai can do the same with the i20, despite it being a newer chassis.
 
macebig said:
They can probably bolt the Fiesta WRC 17 aero on the Rally 2 and be good to go. Guess M-Sport was pushing for that scenario. Possible Hyundai can do the same with the i20, despite it being a newer chassis.
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front wise, definitely nope. rear-wise it's a possibility.
 
macebig said:
They can probably bolt the Fiesta WRC 17 aero on the Rally 2 and be good to go. Guess M-Sport was pushing for that scenario. Possible Hyundai can do the same with the i20, despite it being a newer chassis.
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But do they have enough power to use that much aero?
 
To think that a years old car with some bolt on aero can compete with a completely new build car is a dream .... dreamt up by the guy that sells those old cars ^^
 
But at the end we need to be glad that M-Sport is at least doing something. I don't see any other team being so commited to WRC ever as them. They are practically nowhere, have no support and still doing it. Way better than Hyundai with all thouse resources. If they wouldn't sign up Ogier that time, they would be 10+ years doing in completely without success. They are always trying very hard to be here and at the end they are, even if they lose money, which they do. Hyundai board could talk to them if Ford deal will not go through once again.
 
deephouse said:
But at the end we need to be glad that M-Sport is at least doing something. I don't see any other team being so commited to WRC ever as them. They are practically nowhere, have no support and still doing it. Way better than Hyundai with all thouse resources. If they wouldn't sign up Ogier that time, they would be 10+ years doing in completely without success. They are always trying very hard to be here and at the end they are, even if they lose money, which they do. Hyundai board could talk to them if Ford deal will not go through once again.
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No support? Losing money? WTF?
 
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