Entry list Mexico

[Roy]

FIA list of manufacturers:

Nothing new only Ford B and C team

STOBART VK M-SPORT FORD RALLY TEAM
7 Gianluigi GALLI (I) Giovanni BERNACCHINI (I)
8 Matthew WILSON (GB) Scott MARTIN (GB)

MUNCHI’S FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM
9Federico VILLAGRA (RA) Jorge PEREZ-COMPANC (RA)
10 Henning SOLBERG (N) Cato MENKERUD (N)

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2008/January/300108-03.html

The list of total entries will be published on February 8th 2008.

[RS]

Actually that is rather interesting, Henning is driving for Munchi's!

[Sulland]

According to Hennings Manager the reasoning is that Stobart would like to have 2 Stobart sponsored cars fronting the team where possible. (The Orange Expert Car does not blend in !)
In rallies where Munchi's only have one car, Henning will drive for Munchi's. He will have the same people supporting him from M-Sport, so no big drama, and Henning is Happy !



If I had been Munchi's CEO I would also be happy, since they will get more Manufacturer points this way.
And Mr Wilson Sr probably wants all 3 Ford teams to Score points. All in all a good solution for all parties involved !!!

[Dilek]

Rally Mexico entry list is published :)

http://www.rallymexico.com/pdf/EntriesMx08.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Patrik Sandell in a Clio S1600 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Jan Kopecky in a Grande Punto S2000 :eek:

[kabouter]

What a shame, no North American drivers :( The number of local drivers is similar to previous years, but it's a shame there are so few foreign privateers.

[Tom206wrc]

Costs I believe :rolleyes:

And there are already many drivers in S1600(JWRC) to my opinion ;)


Keep a cloth eye to team Sébastien Ogier/Julien Ingrassia :D
Sébastien Loeb himself would have adviced Citroën to give a chance to this young and fully promising crew(if you followed them in the french 206 Cup you should understand my point of view) :p :

[A.F.F.]

Keep a cloth eye to team Sébastien Ogier/Julien Ingrassia :D
Sébastien Loeb himself would have adviced Citroën to give a chance to this young and fully promising crew(if you followed them in the french 206 Cup you should understand my point of view) :p :


Can you tell us more about them Tom?

[Tom206wrc]

Can you tell us more about them Tom?




Only two years experience in rallying(starting when they won the "Rallye-Jeunes" challenge by end 2005)and they collected many wins and the title in 2007 at the french Peugeot 206 Cup, simple as that :D

Ogier won on tarmac as on gravel(he likes both type of rallies) ;)

[Corny]

wasn't Stohl going to drive in Mexico?

[PLuto]

To Tom206WRC - write me an email to [email:wpxd5chg]pluto@rallysport.cz[/email:wpxd5chg]

[Roy]

wasn't Stohl going to drive in Mexico?

There was a rumour, but Stohl has no money. No drive for Stohl this year.

[Xsara Fan]

Rautenbach with C4 WRC???

[A.F.F.]

Only two years experience in rallying(starting when they won the "Rallye-Jeunes" challenge by end 2005)and they collected many wins and the title in 2007 at the french Peugeot 206 Cup, simple as that :D

Ogier won on tarmac as on gravel(he likes both type of rallies) ;)

ok, so there's one all-rounder in developing :up:

[RS]

Jan Kopecky in a Grande Punto S2000 :eek:

Watch him go for points!

[sal]

Is there part of the entry list missing or is 42 the actual number of entries?

[jonas_mcrae]

OMG! Kopecky in S2000! shame I cant be there... Is he preparing for next year as IRC will be in Mexico???
And yes I think he is going for the points!
Was expecting a few more R3 though...

[Mirek]

jonas_mcrae: Maybe he returs in WRC under new rulles with Skoda. Time will show... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Also there was a strange rumour in France that Cyprus driver Spyros Pavlides would have a whale(from Bozian)in Mexico and finally he will drive an Impreza GrN... :mark:

[A.F.F.]

]jonas_mcrae: Maybe he returs in WRC under new rulles with Skoda. Time will show... ;)

Oh that would be so cool. Kopecky and Fabia S2000 :up:

[jonas_mcrae]

]jonas_mcrae: Maybe he returs in WRC under new rulles with Skoda. Time will show... ;)

cool! thanks for the info

[PLuto]

cool! thanks for the info

He will use Skoda next year, but IRC will be more interesting than WRC for him :)

[Mirek]

I wrote that maybe with new WRC rulles (2010 or later). And I'm strongly convinced about it.

[Helstar]

Jan Kopecky in a Grande Punto S2000 :eek:
Great ! Go Jan ! Pity nobody drove a Punto S2000 in Monte :s

[urabus-denoS2000]

Only two years experience in rallying(starting when they won the "Rallye-Jeunes" challenge by end 2005)and they collected many wins and the title in 2007 at the french Peugeot 206 Cup, simple as that :D

Ogier won on tarmac as on gravel(he likes both type of rallies) ;)

Thats exactly how Loeb started his career

[Tom206wrc]

Great ! Go Jan ! Pity nobody drove a Punto S2000 in Monte :s




You will see many of them on Monte-Carlo 2009 :p :

[PJRevs]

Patrik Sandell in a Clio S1600 :confused:

He, he, for Serbian Interspeed Racing from Belgrade. He will drive full season for them.

[Tom206wrc]

Is Edith Weiss running the mexican 206 Cup round ??? :confused:

[RS]

]I wrote that maybe with new WRC rulles (2010 or later). And I'm strongly convinced about it.

That would be nice, but we'll see at that time. Maybe it is better for Skoda to stay in IRC as it has more appropriate events for marketing, perhaps more suited rival manufacutrers and better TV. Unless WRC sorts itself out by then...

[DonJippo]

Maybe it is better for Skoda to stay in IRC as it has more appropriate events for marketing, perhaps more suited rival manufacutrers and better TV.

Is that a wish or fact?

[RS]

Is that a wish or fact?

Neither, it's an opinion.

But as I said we will see when the time comes.

[Mirek]

So, here is the idea of Kopecký's livery for Mexico. Main partners for this start are Federal Mogul and Fila:
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/mexiko/JanKopecky.jpg

[DonJippo]

]So, here is the idea of Kopecký's livery for Mexico. Main partners for this start are Federal Mogul and Fila:
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/mexiko/JanKopecky.jpg

Wrong tyres though ;)

[Mirek]

I know, also the windscreen strip. They probably only changed some existing image ;)

[RS]

Kopecky's Punto looks great! Much better than all the WRC teams. How is it that a small Czech private team can do so much better at this than all the multi-million$$$ car manufacturers?

Hope to see the same livery for Kopecky in IRC.

[DonJippo]

Kopecky's Punto looks great! Much better than all the WRC teams. How is it that a small Czech private team can do so much better at this than all the multi-million$$$ car manufacturers?

There are no championship points to be given for "Best livery" , maybe that's why ;)

[RS]

There are no championship points to be given for "Best livery" , maybe that's why ;)

Not yet :D Why not suggest it to Chandler?

Anyhow, for the manufacturers the WRC is primarily marketing, so they should get their act together!

[Tomi]

Wrong tyres though ;)

Hardly a, is missing from in front of Champion too.

[A.F.F.]

There are no championship points to be given for "Best livery" , maybe that's why ;)

But that's a great idea :up:

Hmmm... maybe we could even add a special button to it somehow ;) :p :

[Josti]

But that's a great idea :up:

Hmmm... maybe we could even add a special button to it somehow ;) :p :

And make a pickem championship out of it. I might do better there (given the fact that I have great taste :uhoh :)

:p :

[Rally Hokkaido]

Is Edith Weiss running the mexican 206 Cup round ??? :confused:

I don't think so.
On her website it says she will enter five WRC, four APRC and one MERC round this season, so will quite busy. I think that she is just renting one of the Mexican 206 Cup cars for this event.

[markf8691]

What is the difference between the groups/classes eg - in jwrc s1600 and the R3? and in pwrc n4 and n3?

[Mirek]

N3 is JWRC class ;)

N3 - production cars up to 2000 ccm, only two wheel drive, for example Civic Type-R, Clio Sport, Fiesta ST
N4 - production cars up to 3500 ccm (2 litre turbo), usualy 4WD, these days rulles for N4 allow much more changes than in years before, for example Impreza or Lancer
S1600 - specials with body kit, engine up to 1600 ccm, sequential gearbox etc., for example Citroën C2, Suzuki Swift, Renault Clio
R3 - new class, up to 2000 ccm, two wheel drive, something better than N3, it has better suspension, sequential gearbox, but still not as specialized as S1600, for example new Clio or new Civic Type-R
S2000 - up to 2000 specials, 4WD with body kit, sequential gearbox, for example Peugeot 207, Fiat Punto

[markf8691]

thanxs for the info, i always thought that any cars that competed in pwrc were 2 litre production cars and in jwrc were 1600 wrc really. would that not mean a n3 car and a s1600 in jwrc, that the n3 would be faster as bigger engine size n3 - up to 2 litres? and s1600 only 1.6? what does the a8/a6 mean after the wrc entrys?

[tribefiend]

I thought Travis Pastrana was going to participate? Anybody know anything? Very disappointing pwrc list.

[bowler]

Mexico is not a round of the PWRC, so it is not surprising that the PWRC list is disappointing.

It is a round of the JWRC, but those guys don't know much about traveling by anything bigger than a ferry boat.

[Mirek]

markf8691: No, S1600 are clearly much faster than N3 cars. N3 have bigger engines but they are much less modiffied. They have even less power than S1600. S1600 have some 230-240 Hp and 1000 kg. N3 have some 190-220 Hp and ca 1100 and more kg. Moreover N3 can't have sequential gearbox, big brakes, body kit (wider track), special suspension etc.

Basicly group N are production cars with lower level of upgrades than gr. A. The number means engine capacity. N1 up to 1400 ccm, N2 up to 1600, N3 up to 2000, N4 up to 3500 (turbo coefficient 1,7 means that 2 litre turbo is N4). Group A are much more modiffied can't have body kit as well. They are A5 up to 1400, A6 up to 1600, A7 up to 2000, A8 up to 3500 ccm. In some countries there is A0 too, which is up to 1000 ccm. And than there are special categories like S1600, S2000 or WRC which have even special rulles. There are also some old cars now in classes A6VK (Saxo Kit Car) or A7VK (Peugeot 306 Maxi, Xsara Kit Car).

[PLuto]

]markf8691: No, S1600 are clearly much faster than N3 cars. N3 have bigger engines but they are much less modiffied. They have even less power than S1600. S1600 have some 230-240 Hp and 1000 kg. N3 have some 190-220 Hp and ca 1100 and more kg. Moreover N3 can't have sequential gearbox, big brakes, body kit (wider track), special suspension etc.

Basicly group N are production cars with lower level of upgrades than gr. A. The number means engine capacity. N1 up to 1400 ccm, N2 up to 1600, N3 up to 2000, N4 up to 3500 (turbo coefficient 1,7 means that 2 litre turbo is N4). Group A are much more modiffied can't have body kit as well. They are A5 up to 1400, A6 up to 1600, A7 up to 2000, A8 up to 3500 ccm. In some countries there is A0 too, which is up to 1000 ccm. And than there are special categories like S1600, S2000 or WRC which have even special rulles. There are also some old cars now in classes A6VK (Saxo Kit Car) or A7VK (Peugeot 306 Maxi, Xsara Kit Car).

But I have seen personally Dani Sordo with Clio N3 against Rautenbach with C2 S1600 and Sordo was much faster :D

[Mirek]

I was talking about cars, not drivers. I personaly would be probably slower than Sola in N1 even with WRC...

[PLuto]

Jan Kopecký was testing Punto S2000: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=6005

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/177dfdc16a2756a51d34c3e00b644de8.jpg

[gloomyDAY]

Mexico is not a round of the PWRC, so it is not surprising that the PWRC list is disappointing.
Oh crap! :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

It's weird to have chosen one of the most difficult rallies for the 2WD small cars championship(S1600, R3, A6, ...) !!! :mark:

Mexico would have fitted more with GrN/S2000 cars of PWRC :rolleyes:

[Krigen]

Ooooh my. Great entry list. Eeehh :/ NOT

[jonas_mcrae]

It's weird to have chosen one of the most difficult rallies for the 2WD small cars championship(S1600, R3, A6, ...) !!! :mark:

Mexico would have fitted more with GrN/S2000 cars of PWRC :rolleyes:

well JWRC guys have to race out of Europe every once in a while...
If not it would be called European Junior rally championship or something..
in 2004 when they raced in Mexico it wasn't that bad really, and anyway I think S1600 are more spectacular (cause the noise mainly). Plus brands like Suzuki can get more out of it as the swift is a more commercial model to market.