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woody2goody
23rd January 2008, 16:26
I'm, going to put a few names up I wonder if people can give me their opinions as to whether or not they should be in F1, racing or testing, and any comments they have.

Narain Karthikeyan (spelling?)
Christian Klien
Alexandre Premat
Giorgio Pantano
Gianmaria Bruni
Markus Winklehock
Sakon Yamamoto
Christijan Albers
Tiago Montiero
Ralf Schumacher
Michael Ammermuller
Yuji Ide :)

FIA
23rd January 2008, 16:39
Monteiro (He was just a decent back marker), Baumgartner (Again same), Montoya (I just miss him, OK), Wilson (Should be given a asecond chance) and Doornbos (He is in a way, but deserves more).

keysersoze
23rd January 2008, 16:53
Scott Dixon can definitely make the grade in F1--still.

FIA
23rd January 2008, 17:46
I wish Dixon went to Williams when they said.

maxu05
23rd January 2008, 22:56
Albers was a mobile chicane :laugh: Dixon should be a starter though.

Cozzie
24th January 2008, 05:46
The only driver in that list that I believe deserves a second (or third) chance, this time with a mid-field team is Montiero, but if Bordais is successful Doornbos should certainly be given a chance as he has matched him in ChampCar at times. Then there are guys like Neel Jani who deserve some sort of a drive.

wmcot
24th January 2008, 07:06
Albers was a mobile chicane :laugh:

...and once he was a mobile fueling rig! ;)

LeonBrooke
24th January 2008, 07:40
I think Monteiro and Klien deserve another chance - neither drove for particularly strong teams but both put in impressive performances given their machinery.

I think Scott Dixon also deserves a chance, easily the best "road course" driver in the IRL. I think he'd do well.

I also think Danica Patrick deserves a go. I don't know if she'd be very successful but I think she deserves a chance. She might suprise us.

I would have said Vanina Ickx as well, before her stint in DTM; but I definitely think she deserves a run in top level sports cars instead, and maybe a testing role.

raikk
24th January 2008, 09:18
Robert Wickens... but he's still pretty young and has a chance...

Hawkmoon
24th January 2008, 09:40
Narain Karthikeyan - given some time to knock off the rough edges he may be half decent.
Christian Klien - he's probably better than his results indicated but I don't think he'd ever get above the midfield.
Alexandre Premat - don't know enough about him other than seeing him in a couple of A1GP races.
Giorgio Pantano - no chance.
Gianmaria Bruni - see above and double it.
Markus Winklehock - don't know about his speed but he seemed very cool under pressure.
Sakon Yamamoto - you're joking, right?
Christijan Albers - didn't impress at all and had enough time to do so if he was capable. He wasn't.
Tiago Montiero - Better suited to ChampCar.
Ralf Schumacher - doesn't deserve all the hate that gets sent his way but his time in F1 has passed.
Michael Ammermuller - don't know enough about him to say.
Yuji Ide - :rotflmao:

ShiftingGears
24th January 2008, 11:25
Definitely me.

markabilly
24th January 2008, 13:17
Definitely me.


I thought definitely me retired a bout five years ago and went back to china or somewhere...

ShiftingGears
24th January 2008, 13:19
I thought definitely me retired a bout five years ago and went back to china or somewhere...

Don't say that...have faith in yourself! :p :

Pedro Gonçalves
24th January 2008, 14:09
Álvaro Parente and Filipe Albuquerque....

seppefan
24th January 2008, 17:05
Dixon and Justin Wilson

Kevincal
24th January 2008, 19:37
Scott Dixon or Jeff or Robbie Gordon...

jens
24th January 2008, 21:54
I don't quite share those high opinions about Monteiro as he was a bit slower than that now very lowly rated Albers.

I think we have a very good grid at the moment and it's even hard to say, who should definetely be in (it should mean that he is definetely better than some F1 drivers). Let's not talk about rookies - they'll get their chance sooner or later. Among those, who have already got a chance and aren't race nor test drivers now, I guess Speed and Doornbos may have most to offer.

For fun I'd like to see Alex Yoong back for a moment - wonder, how much would he lose now per lap? Considering his A1 drives I guess he is now better than back in 2002. :p :

Stuartf12007
24th January 2008, 23:08
no more americans please, they just dont cut it these days.

keysersoze
25th January 2008, 02:36
Drivers aren't better or worse because of their citizenship.

That comment, stuart, is the early front-runner for "Most Obtuse Post of the Year" award. :rolleyes:

call_me_andrew
25th January 2008, 04:00
Franck Montagny. I think if he could just get a seat with a major team, he'd be set for life.

Jeff and Robbie Gordon are just too old to transition to F1.

I think Justin Wilson was too soured by his time in F1 to want to come back. The same goes for Doornbos.

Aside from Ralf Schumacher, none of the names on the OP's list really scream "F1 driver" to me.

Marco Andretti. I'd like to see him win the Indy 500, then move to GP2, Champ Car, or test for a year before going to F1.

I think Danica Patrick is better on road courses than ovals. She says her bigggest problems are adjusting to heavy fuel loads and cold tires after pit stops. Neither of which would be a problem in F1.

Kyle Busch would be the most interesting American driver to see in F1. Because while he has a lot of personality and great car control, he's a major asshole.

millencolin
25th January 2008, 04:20
Robbie Gordon...

After the Marcos Ambrose incident... there is no way i want that man in Formula One, in fact, i dont want him near any sort of open wheel car ever again.

I think Will Power should be given a chance, he has gone a lot in that Walker Racing car. NHL have always been front runners and Minardi (hvm) have won a few races in the last couple of years... while Walker has not. He has turned them around and made them into a force in Champ Car... He did have a successful test with Minardi a few years ago (was faster than Will Davison)... so someone... Give will a go!

call_me_andrew
25th January 2008, 05:20
Will Power could be in F1 for name recognition alone.

wmcot
25th January 2008, 07:52
Alex Yoong? :)

Kevincal
26th January 2008, 04:43
no more americans please, they just dont cut it these days.

Screw you.

markabilly
26th January 2008, 14:50
Will Power....based not on talent, but "name power", he would the man!!
maybe he will have a son and name him Mercedes or Beemer....


However, I have waited, waited and waited and the one who should be there, remains un-named, but the name seems to escape my memory...

Someone called Mikey shoewaker or maker so something like that,

Big Ben
26th January 2008, 18:55
eu... Ferrari was interested in me but MS didn't agree. He got scared I think.

woody2goody
27th January 2008, 21:11
I'll throw some more names in for discussion about race seats:

Zsolt Baumgartner
Marc Gene
Adam Carroll
Scott Speed
Michael Schumacher :)
Jacques Villeneuve
Bruno Junqueira
Mattias Ekstrom
Ricardo Zonta
Pedro de la Rosa
Vitantonio Liuzzi

woody2goody
27th January 2008, 21:14
Filipe Albuquerque....


Fantastic name :)

Corny
27th January 2008, 21:17
Michael Schumacher:d!

RaikkonenRules
27th January 2008, 22:25
Zsolt Baumgartner - No too slow
Marc Gene - Reasonable but getting on a bit
Adam Carroll - Would like to see how he'd do
Scott Speed - Americans belong in NASCAR
Michael Schumacher - Will never happen
Jacques Villeneuve - see Schumacher
Bruno Junqueira - Would like to see
Mattias Ekstrom - Rather see him in WRC
Ricardo Zonta - see Gene
Pedro de la Rosa - see Zonta
Vitantonio Liuzzi - don't rate him enougth.

RaikkonenRules
27th January 2008, 22:30
My picks

Will Power
Bruno Junqueira
Luca Fillipi
Narain Karthekeyan
Dan Wheldon
Robert Doornbos
Neel Jani
Graham Rahal
Nelson Phillipe
Adam Carroll
Christian Klein
Bruno Spengler

woody2goody
27th January 2008, 23:03
Is Bruno Spengler the Canadian bloke from DTM? If so he's pretty quick.

Placid
28th January 2008, 03:38
My picks

Will Power
Bruno Junqueira
Luca Fillipi
Narain Karthekeyan
Dan Wheldon
Robert Doornbos
Neel Jani
Graham Rahal
Nelson Phillipe
Adam Carroll
Christian Klein
Bruno Spengler

Richard Antinucci
AJ Allmendinger
Sam Hornish
Mario Dominguez
Tony Kannan
Tomas Scheckter
Dan Clarke
Christian Albers
Patrick Friesacher
Ryan Hunter-Reay

My "No Chance in Hell" Category - AJ Foyt IV and Andrew Ranger

Pardon the language.

markabilly
28th January 2008, 13:10
Richard Antinucci
AJ Allmendinger
Sam Hornish
Mario Dominguez
Tony Kannan
Tomas Scheckter
Dan Clarke
Christian Albers
Patrick Friesacher
Ryan Hunter-Reay

My "No Chance in Hell" Category - AJ Foyt IV and Andrew Ranger

Pardon the language.
What no dana patrick or whatever her name is? She ought at least get dumped in NCIH category....of course according to benie, they would have to paint the car white...and if she got preganant early in the season, wonder how they mod the car..

keysersoze
28th January 2008, 13:22
My picks

Will Power
Bruno Junqueira
Luca Fillipi
Narain Karthekeyan
Dan Wheldon
Robert Doornbos
Neel Jani
Graham Rahal
Nelson Phillipe
Adam Carroll
Christian Klein
Bruno Spengler

Well, according to your previous post, Graham Rahal belongs in NASCAR. :rolleyes:

Placid
29th January 2008, 00:11
Wished if Stoddy would have given Bryan Herta the ride on the Minardi in 2003.

But what can we say? This was 5 years ago when he tested the car.

Placid
29th January 2008, 23:37
What no dana patrick or whatever her name is? She ought at least get dumped in NCIH category....of course according to benie, they would have to paint the car white...and if she got preganant early in the season, wonder how they mod the car..


Richard Antinucci
AJ Allmendinger
Sam Hornish
Mario Dominguez
Tony Kannan
Tomas Scheckter
Dan Clarke
Christian Albers
Patrick Friesacher
Ryan Hunter-Reay

My "No Chance in Hell" Category - AJ Foyt IV and Andrew Ranger

Pardon the language.

Buddy Rice
Helio Castroneves
Jon Fogarty

FIA
30th January 2008, 17:03
Will Power ans Scott Speed, No Joke!

RaikkonenRules
30th January 2008, 17:19
Well, according to your previous post, Graham Rahal belongs in NASCAR. :rolleyes:

Graham Rahal is one of the few execeptions.

Roamy
31st January 2008, 05:54
Richard Antinucci
AJ Allmendinger
Sam Hornish
Mario Dominguez
Tony Kannan
Tomas Scheckter
Dan Clarke
Christian Albers
Patrick Friesacher
Ryan Hunter-Reay

My "No Chance in Hell" Category - AJ Foyt IV and Andrew Ranger

Pardon the language.

WOWE Placid how serious was the accident where you hurt your head??
These guys would have a tough time in Formula Ford

wmcot
31st January 2008, 07:18
From ALMS:

Jaime Melo
Romain Dumas
Timo Bernhard
Sascha Maassen
Ryan Briscoe
among others...

Garry Walker
31st January 2008, 08:50
From ALMS:

Jaime Melo
Romain Dumas
Timo Bernhard
Sascha Maassen
Ryan Briscoe
among others...

All of those would be Alex Yoong level at F1.

I would like to see Marco Andretti and Bruno Spengler get a few chances. Also Adam Carroll.

wedge
31st January 2008, 14:21
My picks
Dan Wheldon


I'm now glad Dan didn't drive for BMW when he had the chance. He looked stupidly average on road courses last year. I'd rather see him in NASCAR.

I always had the feeling Scott Dixon was overlooked and would've done a better job for Toyota F1 than Christiano Da Matta.

Someone mention Sam Hornish - again, no way Jose! He ain't that great on road courses either.

I think Darren Manning could be interesting.

woody2goody
31st January 2008, 15:45
Didn't Manning used to test for BAR/Honda?

He would be pretty useful.

Ryan Briscoe was decent as a Toyota test driver and IMO Friesacher was better than Albers at Minardi in '05.