IQ-Jännerrallye

[HaCo]

3-5 January is the IQ Janner Rallye counting for austria and tsjech rally championship! Only N4 cars (or less) are allowed. According to rallye-magazin the stages are covered with snow.

Timetable can be found here: http://www.iq-jaennerrallye.at/Zeitplan.62.0.html
Entrylist can be found here: http://www.iq-jaennerrallye.at/Nennliste.66.0.html

I count 4 S2000 and very strong other N4's like Stohl, Pech, ...

I hope we will be able to follow this round on Freecater Rally channel (http://www.freecaster.tv/rally).

According to rallye-magazin, there will be live onboard footage in the service parc, very nice! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Great duel Grande Punto vs Polo :p :

[Mirek]

HaCo: There are cars without valid homologation as well at start but they start 5 minutes behind the latest new one. First of them is rally legend Stig Blomquist with gr.A Lancer Evo III.

According to the drivers there is little snow coverage on stages but a lot of ice and almost no snowbanks.

I would name also Jani Paasonen or Raimund Baumschlager who are very strong on snow, HaCo ;)

[HaCo]

Yep and don't forget the old German Gassner! :)

[Filip]

Pavel Valoušek is also on the list, I just hope he'll finish the first stage! :)

[Mirek]

We all hope but since he has now his own car (newly built) I hope he would be a bit more careful :)

[Mirek]

Stage maps: http://www.rihak.cz/rally/200x/soubory/Janner_08_mapy.pdf?PHPSESSID=66d73d9f4fff316dfd7d4 4be572610ff

[Magnus]

Heja Stickan!

[HaCo]

Stohl will not start because he is in negotiation with a sponsor and that could not do good to the deal!?!
Also, he would have started with an gas mitsu, so not a real N4.

[Mirek]

HaCo: I don't think that CNG cars can start in EC-Central as they are not in any existing FIA class.

[HaCo]

]HaCo: I don't think that CNG cars can start in EC-Central as they are not in any existing FIA class.
Yeah, but in rallye-magazin.de they told that Stohl made an arangement with the organisers that he could start 3 minutes ahaid of the field...

[Mirek]

Aha, ok. Anyway it doesn't matter :(

[Tom206wrc]

Stohl will not start because he is in negotiation with a sponsor and that could not do good to the deal!?!
Also, he would have started with an gas mitsu, so not a real N4.



With that Sponsor deal, where would Stohl run in 2008 and with what car ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

You would like to know more than Manfred knows himself recently :D

[Filip]

Here are some photos and videos of Valoušek testing his new car:

http://www.rallyfans.info/v/Kubeek/Valda+test/

http://www.rallyfans.info/v/Kubeek/Valda+videa/

:D

[HaCo]

Oh damn I love snow!!

Is there no shakedown?

[Mirek]

It is under way now...

[HaCo]

Fastest time for the Polo S2000!
01. Rosenberger/Monego VW Polo S 2000 1:18,4 Min.
02. Blomqvist/Spjut Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III +0,5
03. Odlozilik/Odlozilik Fiat Grande Punto S 2000 +0,6
04. Haneder/Kregl Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +0,7
05. Waldherr/Jeitler VW Polo S 2000 +0,8
06. Tahko/Hirvijärvi Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +0,9
07. Gassner/Tannhäuser Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +1,1
07. Trojan/Rihak Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +1,1
09. Baumschlager/Zeltner Misubishi Lancer Evo IX +1,2
10. Tarabus/Trunkat Fiat Grande Punto S 2000 +1,4

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?id=d15&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=14594&cHash=8e4df92e9b

But of course, it is only shakedown... :)


http://www.rallye-magazin.de/uploads/pics/news_oem_20071103.jpg

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Blomqvist still fast when compared with young drivers...

His EVO is an old EVO III Gr A???

[HaCo]

]Blomqvist still fast when compared with young drivers...

His EVO is an old EVO III Gr A???

He's with the historics... :D

[Mirek]

HaCo: Haneder (Evo 9) was 1:18,1 ;)

[HaCo]

]HaCo: Haneder (Evo 9) was 1:18,1 ;)

darn... ;)

[Mirek]

No problem, it was just a shakedown. We'll see tomorrow morning how they can do on real stages. Moreover because many drivers didn't do shakedown.

Frankly I don't expect too much from Tarabus (first rally with 4WD) or Waldherr. But maybe Rossenberger could do pretty well with Polo. That's about S2000. My favourite is still Baumschlager if the stages will be still under ice or snow cover.

[HaCo]

Looking forward to the first results of the year... :)

Hope there will be some video coverage online!

[Mirek]

Shakedown photos: http://www.rallye-cult.de/rallye_2008/jaenner/jaenner.html

http://www.rallyecult.alpha.webspace24.de/jaenner08/12.jpg

[Filip]

I hope Paasonen shows some nice action. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for tomorrow neither :bounce:


Even without a single 207 S2000 on list :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

]
...
Frankly I don't expect too much from Tarabus (first rally with 4WD) or Waldherr. But maybe Rossenberger could do pretty well with Polo. That's about S2000. My favourite is still Baumschlager if the stages will be still under ice or snow cover.



You wrong it seems !!! Waldherr and Tarabus had the better start of the S2000 drivers on SS1, by far !!! :s

[HaCo]

Valousek taking first two stage wins...

The Polo's are going well.

I think it's going to be an interesting rally!

[HaCo]

Have u seen this?
http://www.iq-jaennerrallye.at/Live-Bilder.129.0.html

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Valousek taking first two stage wins...

The Polo's are going well.

I think it's going to be an interesting rally!

Yes,
impressive return of "Valda" to the competition..

Strangely Paasonen lost lot of time in the 2nd stage...

Polos S2000 are going pretty well.

[HaCo]

Madeira, u mean in the 1st stage?

Third stage is running now, fastest time was 7:33 in first pass...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Madeira, u mean in the 1st stage?

Third stage is running now, fastest time was 7:33 in first pass...

Yes.. sorry... first stage...

[polo10]

Where can i find live-results?...thank you

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Where can i find live-results?...thank you

http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2008/mcr/janner/3absolut_jr.php

[polo10]

]http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2008/mcr/janner/3absolut_jr.php

Obrigado , companheiro

[HaCo]

Pavel ahs been beaten for the first time, waiting for Paasonen his time!

[Mirek]

In first stage Rossenberger's engine stopped in a hairpin and it took 30 seconds to start it again. Waldherr damaged exhaust on stage 2 and the car lost power. Paasonen was going on wide tyres! It was bad for stage 1 but good for stage 2. Valoušek slightly damaged right front from snow barier. Orsak didn't managed to brake into one crossroads and Trojan had some dumper problems.

That's info from Pluto from the place ;)

[HaCo]

Thank Mirek. Is it the outlet collector again on the Polo that is making problems?

Paasonen did fastest time now!!! :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Another fastest time for Paasonen... but Valousek was really close...

Polos are both in front of Puntos :)

[HaCo]

Wittman only 3.8 behind Pech... S2000's are quite far behind! Lets wait for nr 20 and 25!

[Tom206wrc]

S2000s aren't strong on snow event compared to GrN !!! :mark:

[Mirek]

On snow and ice it is just about drivers, their skills and experience. Car is minor thing. You can see it on cars from the non-FIA allowed group. For example Kristof Klaussner with old Audi Quattro who is currently 14th overal after stage 4!

[Mirek]

Well, Valda beated Paasonen by 10 seconds on stage 5. I keep my fingers crossed for him :)

Photos from ceremonial start:
http://www.vft-video.com/index.php?page=proh&gal=4852

[HaCo]

A Punto is only 3 secs behind the first Polo!

:)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Pech is starting to reduce the gap to Valousek and Paasonen... (only 3sec. behing Paasonen)

[HaCo]

This rally is awesome, also watch Rosenberger go!!! Jiha! :D

[Mirek]

Waldherr had wrong tyre choice. Paasonen now on the same tyres as the rest of the top. Tahko's lost was caused by weared tyres. Arazim made a spin. Everyone says that it is very slippery and many of drivers are careful because they are not used of driving on spikes...

[Mirek]

Onboard Pavel Valousek/Zdenek Hruza stage 1 wich they won:

http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/valda_SS1.wmv

[Mirek]

Stig Blomqvist out, engine failure :(

[Tom206wrc]

Wow !! After SS10 about 10s only separate the four S2000 drivers !!! :eek:

Tarabus took the fragile lead in front of Rosenberger :D

[Mirek]

Some other news. Hungarian László Kiss (gr. N Swift) crashed into finish photocell of stage 6 and was moved to the hospital. He is said to be ok. Stage was cancelled for the rest of the field. Car number 00 also crashed :D

Valousek had weared tyres from the end of stage seven to nine. Gassner had a puncture and lost 4 minutes.

[Mirek]

So, first leg is over for the most of the crew.

1. Valousek
2. Pech + 6,3
3. Haneder + 34,4
4. Baumschlager +1:23

Baumschalger is ill (flu). Valousek made two spins in the last stages. Tahko rolled over (continues) and Trojan was out and damaged intercooler.

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for Tarabus on SS13 this morning it seems, and it seems Waldherr didn't take part to the leg... :(

[Wim_Impreza]

Tom, Tarabus crashed out the rally and Waldherr had mechanical problems before SS13, so he retired too.

Nice fight for the lead between Pavel Valoušek and Václav Pech. It's a pity that Gaßner had a puncture, otherwise he could fight for a podium place.

[GTA]

Waldherr ( Polo S 2000 ) stopped before stage 13 due to severe Brake problems and did not want to take the risk to crash the car.... ( and do not forget that Neither Waldherr or Rosenberger drove the VW Polo on Snow before ! maybe 10 km before the start ).

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It's difficult to say who will win the rally... but...

I bet on Valousek... he is having a fantastic return...

Why Paasonen is having a very slow 2nd day :confused:

[Filip]

Impressive time by Pech, now he has a comfortable lead, but still 3 long stages to go and nothing is sure! :)

[Filip]

Another stage win for Pech, Valda will have to push real hard if he wants to win.

[Tom206wrc]

Where is Rosenberger on SS16 ??? :confused:


Really a terrible rally for the S2000s !!! :(

[Tom206wrc]

No problem for Rosenberger, 7th fastest on SS16, 6th overall ;)

[Mirek]

Valousek has not enough snow tyres. Today he must use weared ones. Pech has new ones for every section.

Also Paasonen has the same problem plus problems with car. He has his own car which is far from top and he doesn't have even a dog-box...

Haneder was in a snowbank. Volf joined Baumschlager in illness.

Today, there is more snow on stages.

GTA: Tarabus was driving Punto also first time and Odlozilik first time on snow ;)

Photos:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=319&au=0
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=320&au=0
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=342&fotograf=7&all=1
http://www.vft-video.com/index.php?page=proh&gal=4884

[Mirek]

Odlozilik said he doesn't know how to drive fast in deeper snow and also was in a ditch this morning.

[Mirek]

New onboards: http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2008

Tarabus:
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_9f58b8f78f87e2118db320e01e1beea5.jpg

[Filip]

Thanks for the info Mirek! ;)

Do you know why Paasonen is not driving the car he used in Prague?

Also has someone noticed local hero Klausner doing 4th time on ss15 in his Audi Quattro? :D

[Mirek]

I don't know which car he drove in Prague. In fact he is very rare to watch in rally, he mostly do rallycross.

Last stage is partly without snow. I don't know who used which tyres (but most of the crews use tyres with spikes - better which had spikes before because the rally is long and many crews don't have money for changing new tyres for every section). Odlozilik said his central differential settings is wrong and he has too much torque on rear wheels. Baumschlager and Volf still ill.

Yes, Klaussner is crazy, but he got 4 minutes penalty yesterday for beeing to soon in time check :(

[Tom206wrc]

A lady is leading the historic class, Severin Katzensteiner(Mazda 323)with one stage left to go(after SS17) !!! :eek: :eek: :up:

[Mirek]

Roman Odlozilik retired. After stage 17 shifting string broke when he got a reverse drive.

Also Klausner crashed :(

[Filip]

Paasonen has best time so far and he overtakes Wittmann! :)

[Mirek]

And Gassner jumped from 14th to 10th in last stage!

[Filip]

Rosenberger is the only one who managed to break the Lancer domination in Top10. :p

[Mirek]

There is a mistake on http://www.mediasport.cz and onboard Tarabus RZ7 is wrong. That one is from previous year without snow...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Hi,guys!
Im new to this forum.I come from Croatia.
I often spectate austrian rallies so i know about their drivers.
I think its a great result for Rosenberger because of the lack of torque in his Polo,which

[urabus-denoS2000]

which is extremely important in snow

[Mirek]

Video Tarabus crash, You can see that the crash was very strange, maybe lack of experience with 4WD (his first ever start with 4WD):

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3097778

Some very crazy photos from Jafry (I hope he would not be angry on me for sending it here). Watch especialy second half ;)

http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=319&au=0

[HaCo]

The S2000's are quite violent with the revs, that might caused the crash...

[Mirek]

One new onboard on http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2008 , Vaclav Pech stage 13 where he won.

[rozsa]

You can find some nice photos on our site as well;
http://www.rallyfoto.hu

[Filip]

]Video Tarabus crash, You can see that the crash was very strange, maybe lack of experience with 4WD (his first ever start with 4WD):

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3097778

Some very crazy photos from Jafry (I hope he would not be angry on me for sending it here). Watch especialy second half ;)

http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=319&au=0

Yes it's very strange, that section is very slow, but also very slippery, pitty for Tarabus but he'll be fast in the rest of the season, can't wait to see the battle between him and Petak. :)

[PLuto]

Thanks for the info Mirek! ;)

Do you know why Paasonen is not driving the car he used in Prague?

Also has someone noticed local hero Klausner doing 4th time on ss15 in his Audi Quattro? :D

In Prague he was starting with rented car. In Freistadt he was using his own car (not so good), because it was cheaper...

[PLuto]

Paasonen has best time so far and he overtakes Wittmann! :)

Jani had also low number of tyres with spikes, so he was keeping one new set of them for last stage to fight :D

[PLuto]

]Roman Odlozilik retired. After stage 17 shifting string broke when he got a reverse drive.

Also Klausner crashed :(

I must say, he retired 10 metres before regrouping (and 200 metres before service) with shifted reverse gear. He was able to go through regrouping and service by reverse, but he resign. Five minutes before retiring, he told, he doesnt want to continue, so he beckon his retirement :rolleyes:

[Jarek Z]

Hi,guys!
Im new to this forum.I come from Croatia.
I often spectate austrian rallies so i know about their drivers.
I think its a great result for Rosenberger because of the lack of torque in his Polo,which is extremely important on snow.

Welcome to the forum urabus-denoS2000! I hope you will stay with us for a long time.
To be honest, I don't think that it is so difficult to drive a S2000 car on snow. If you have the skills, you can even win a winter rally with such car. Last year Tomasz Czopik, in his first rally with Polo S2000, was driving in a second position for the most part of the Magurski Rally. He went in the ditch on the second day, but if he hadn't made the mistake, he would have finished second, in front of many experienced drivers, like Kuzaj, Solowow, Frycz...

http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2075&pg_[go]=1

[Jarek Z]

]Video Tarabus crash, You can see that the crash was very strange, maybe lack of experience with 4WD (his first ever start with 4WD):

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3097778

Some very crazy photos from Jafry (I hope he would not be angry on me for sending it here). Watch especialy second half ;)

http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=319&au=0

Thanks for the photos and videos Mirek! Tarabus' crash is one of the craziest accidents I've seen in my life. Looks like he doesn't know how to control his car ;)

I like this photo:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/zobrazFotografii.php?if=9200&ig=319

[Mirek]

Jarek Z: Tarabus drove FWD cars all his life. His way up is maybe too sharp since he made a progress from N2 Honda into S2000 in just one year! Last year on Janner rally he made his first rally in S1600, this year in S2000. He is very fast (and with Honda he was incredibly reliable as well, no crash in maybe more than 5 years) and I'm sure he would be interesting to watch in the rest of the season. I think that he just have FWD habbits and must continue learning to drive 4WD ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Thank you,Jarek Z

[urabus-denoS2000]

I didn t say it is hard,i said it is slower on scow than an N4(REAL N4).
But there are exceptions,like Czopik.

[Jarek Z]

]He is very fast (and with Honda he was incredibly reliable as well, no crash in maybe more than 5 years)

No crash in Honda, but look where I found his Suzuki on last year's Barum Rally ;)
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2523&pg_[go]=37

Good luck to him though!

[Mirek]

Jarek Z: Yes I know, he had two crashes with Suzuki and both quite hard.

[PLuto]

I didn t say it is hard,i said it is slower on scow than an N4(REAL N4).
But there are exceptions,like Czopik.

I think S2000 are good on snow. Look at Waldherr - I think he isnt the best driver, but he was doing very good times with Polo S2000. Rosenberger and Tarabus were teaching with new cars and Odlozilik dont like snow :)

[PLuto]

Andreas Waldherr after first leg (http://www.autosport.cz/audio/files/66c251a39006288837266ae6e33ddf6f.mp3)

Rosenberger after first leg (http://www.autosport.cz/audio/files/b6a4ba888ff2bcd7e2db44fa9e925350.mp3)

this interview with Rosenberger after SS 14 shows, how he was enjoying race (http://www.autosport.cz/audio/files/6621032e0aeb89bb5938170054bb7307.mp3)

Rosenberger from finish (http://www.autosport.cz/audio/files/9bd5b6954ac9f87f7c93922744164e14.mp3)

[Filip]

Both Tarabus and Odložilik were a nice surprise for me, I didn't expect them to be so high on snow.
Last year Rosenberger was a lot slower than Waldherr (in Golf Kitcars) but it seems 4wd suits better Rosenberger and he adapted fast.

[WRC1]

hi,

my pictures are online!

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2008/02j%e4nnerrallye/index.html

regards

wrc1

[Mirek]

Big crash of Laszlo Kiss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fipp_cp8pWo

WRC1: Nice photos ;)

[rallyelee]

my video from jänner rallye

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3105670

tschau rallyelee

[Mirek]

Nice job ;)

Some other videos:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=233
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqFCs1b0aws
http://www.rallyfans-video1.tym.cz/janner08.mpg

[urabus-denoS2000]

Pl.
Division I / FahrerGesamt1Baumschlager Raimund6001212121212002Stengg Willi500100108012103Gassner Hermann3410700100074Rosenberger Kris29008777005Waldherr Andreas2404100010005Danzinger Hannes24107466007Grössing Gerwald21000808058Ölsinger Peter13000050809Vojtech Stepan120000000129Pech Vaclav121200000009Kovar Walter120660000


Waldherr was a lot faster than Rosenberger on most of the rallies,but it was Rosenberger who finished higher in the overall championship standings

[urabus-denoS2000]

Im sorry,it wasnt supposed to end up like this.It copied the results from the austrian championship from the www.waldherr.cc (http://www.waldherr.cc) site,and look what came out.admins,fell free to erase the post above

[urabus-denoS2000]

Anyway,Rosenberger was 4th with 29 points,and Waldherr was 5th with 24 points

[HaCo]

Awesome vidoes!!! Thanks for the links!!

[Filip]

Great videos! :) Now I'm even more angry that I didn't go there! :eek:

[Nowi]

My photos from 26. Jänner rallye at http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=323&au=0

[Mirek]

Crazy Audi-man Klausner in action :D
http://www.klausner-motorsport.at/wwwroot/filme/jaenner_2008/JR-2008.wmv

And another ewrc video:
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2008/janner08vft.avi

[RR-Racing]

Hello

We have now the first parts of the videos from the Jänner Rallye online on our page. We have a lot of good videos with drifts and crazy actions.
www.RR-Racing-and-Sports.com (http://www.RR-Racing-and-Sports.com)
@videos/2008/jännerrallye...
In the next days we give more videos and picture online.

So have fun and enjoy.

best ragards
Robert

[Flarin]

Hallo, my pics from 26. Janner rally:

http://www.fotenky.hostuju.cz/thumbnails.php?album=54

Flarin

[HaCo]

Hallo, my pics from 26. Janner rally:

http://www.fotenky.hostuju.cz/thumbnails.php?album=54

Flarin

VERY NICE! :)