Bizarre Pacenotes

[RallyCat909]

Im sure many of you have heard of Andrew Nesbitt, an irish driver with some of the craziest notes I have ever heard. Just thought everyone would enjoy discussing this vid and an unusual notes you have encounted throughout the years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1uw2NgKuQ&feature=related

[MrJan]

This cropped up when the forum was in it's old format and I had a clip of the co-driver as a text message tone, I always remember it would start "repeat minus SLIPPY SLIPPY SLIPPY". With all the STOPS and ROCKS, ROCKS, ROCKS it's certainly a style that you'd struggle to lose concentration with.

[Barry_]

yea was always wondering what 24 meant..and then he yells..is nesbitt deaf or something??

[RallyCat909]

yea was always wondering what 24 meant..and then he yells..is nesbitt deaf or something??


Actually, some close to it. But yeah, I used to wonder the first time I saw a short incar of him.

[Magnus]

22, 24 and 26
14,16 and 18
Twenty foooour! STOP Come back come back come back!
Rocks rocks rocks. Stop. Very lose come back!!!
:D
But they are driving really good!

[peespeed]

Andrew is partially deaf in one ear and thats the reason for James calling the notes so loud. I have the ringtone on one of my phones and I get some very strange looks when ever the phone rings

[Mihai]

Speaking of ringtones, a couple of years ago someone on the British Rallying forum was sharing a wicked on-board sound. I lost it when I moved to another job. Anyone still has it?

Luis Moya's pace notes - that would be an awesome ringtone too!

[Zico]

From personal experience and being new to actually competing it can be difficult to concentrate 100% on the notes when there is so much happening, partially deaf or not.. gets quite hectic at times. The mind seems to filter out what it perceives as less critical info when you get information overload. I guess this diminishes with experience though.
On my recent event I had to ask the co-driver to repeat the notes on quite a few occasions and Im pretty sure I'd have been able to be more commited on many sections if we had adopted the style Andrew uses. It seems to work well for him. :)

[scoobysnips]

Andrew is partially deaf in one ear and thats the reason for James calling the notes so loud. I have the ringtone on one of my phones and I get some very strange looks when ever the phone rings

i've wanted it for ages, where can i get it from?

[keep-her-lit]

PeeSpeed is right, plenty of strange looks when the phone rings!

I can send it on to you if you want. Email me at [email:13yd9eyb]info@totallySideways.com[/email:13yd9eyb]

[keep-her-lit]

Right click and select "Save Target As": http://www.totallysideways.com/mp3/slippyslippyslippycutoff.mp3

Enjoy...

[rwssport]

Just need to try and work out how to get it onto my phone now

[shurik]

Thanks, Keep-her-lit thats just great :) http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=93518

[leecarter]

what a partnership utter trust in one another, terriffic bit of in car that just shows what teamwork is all about.

it doesnt matter what 16 18 22 24 is to us it means a alot to that partnership

[DuncanD]

If you can find yourself a copy of On & Off 2 (its an irish rallying DVD from RPM Motorsport) both Andrew and James talk you through a stage and explain the notes in full! Well worth it for £10 off ebay and plenty of other good bits

[escort mk]

Its my uncle that sites with him James O'Brien.... As preespeed said he is partially deaf in one ear. James sat with my dad in the Cork 20 before and he was grand. No roaring or ''BACKOFF''.

[c4]

Russell Brookes used a descriptive system which proved controversial on a Circuit of Ireland circa 1993. The organisers wanted to provide route notes (blind event that year) for the competitors and employed Brookes. Brookes' system was based on Bernard Darniche's, a method favoured by continentals. Many competitors complained that the notes were unsafe and one of the top seed's commented that they couldn't believe Brookes used this system and joked that Brookes must be the best driver in the world to be able to drive on them.

[bennizw]

But, as I haven't really got it yet. What does the different numbers in their pacenote system really mean?

[BDunnell]

Russell Brookes used a descriptive system which proved controversial on a Circuit of Ireland circa 1993. The organisers wanted to provide route notes (blind event that year) for the competitors and employed Brookes. Brookes' system was based on Bernard Darniche's, a method favoured by continentals. Many competitors complained that the notes were unsafe and one of the top seed's commented that they couldn't believe Brookes used this system and joked that Brookes must be the best driver in the world to be able to drive on them.

I'm sure that Mike Broad, when he co-drove for Brookes, used what seemed to me to be a 'normal' system whenever I've seen on-board footage of the pair of them on a pace note event, like the 1987 Ulster Rally. Sadly, I can't find any clips from that one anywhere on the net.

I rather enjoyed Mike Nicholson's 'augmentation' of his pace notes for Derek Bell on the first day of the 1987 Lombard RAC. It was Bell's first time on pace notes and Nicholson obviously felt that he needed a bit of extra help — for example, "it's very muddy, and there are trees as well — mind your braking."

[AndyRAC]

I'm sure that Mike Broad, when he co-drove for Brookes, used what seemed to me to be a 'normal' system whenever I've seen on-board footage of the pair of them on a pace note event, like the 1987 Ulster Rally. Sadly, I can't find any clips from that one anywhere on the net.

I rather enjoyed Mike Nicholson's 'augmentation' of his pace notes for Derek Bell on the first day of the 1987 Lombard RAC. It was Bell's first time on pace notes and Nicholson obviously felt that he needed a bit of extra help — for example, "it's very muddy, and there are trees as well — mind your braking."

Rememeber that, "Derek, Derek,.......ohhh....." Bell didn't seem to be listening to the notes.

[c4]

I'm sure that Mike Broad, when he co-drove for Brookes, used what seemed to me to be a 'normal' system whenever I've seen on-board footage of the pair of them on a pace note event, like the 1987 Ulster Rally. Sadly, I can't find any clips from that one anywhere on the net.

The problem the Irish competitors had was the distances Brookes had in the notes. Many described the notes as dangerous and that the distances just didn't correspond with the corners, also competitors commented that the descriptions of the corners were wrong and were opposite to how others would have noted them. Brookes took 50 metres as a base distance in the notes, which he developed with Peter Bryant for 1980 and later modified with Broad, and would often base distances on telegraph poles as reckoned these were 30 or 50 metres apart.

[Daniel]

I rather enjoyed Mike Nicholson's 'augmentation' of his pace notes for Derek Bell on the first day of the 1987 Lombard RAC. It was Bell's first time on pace notes and Nicholson obviously felt that he needed a bit of extra help — for example, "it's very muddy, and there are trees as well — mind your braking."

Hilarious :)

[c4]

I'm sure that Mike Broad, when he co-drove for Brookes, used what seemed to me to be a 'normal' system whenever I've seen on-board footage of the pair of them on a pace note event, like the 1987 Ulster Rally. Sadly, I can't find any clips from that one anywhere on the net.

There is a very brief clip here of Brookes in-car 87 Ulster, from the Manta Magic docu.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QDOtsjW7Xv0