Entrylist Sweden 2008

[Micke_VOC]

The entry list is uppdated now...
http://www.swerally.se/se,anmalningar.html

"Please note that this list of entrants is unofficial. After the entries have closed an official list will be published."

[Simmi]

I think all rallies should do this.

Mikkelsen now in and a couple of others.

[Magnus]

Since the swedish championship have not been part of the Swedish Rally for ten year, but is this winter, the interest from this group have been record breaking. For us swedes it will be very interesting of course.
8 weeks to go. ten dregres plus in kiruna yesterday, but actually far colder a bit firther south...

[Roy]

I think all rallies should do this.

Mikkelsen now in and a couple of others.

This + eye in the sky together makes a ally wonderfull for fans.

[Micke_VOC]

Remember after last three stages saturday and sunday its gonna be 100 more cars =) This because the Swedish Championship run after the world rally event. =)
Entry list here:
http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=226&urval=granskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Anm%E4lningslista&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor

[Tom206wrc]

Wow !!! Bertrand Pierrat will run the rally !!! :eek:


For information, Pierrat is a gentleman driver from eastern-France driving a Toyota Corolla WRC in various national rallies... ;)

It's the first time I see him on international event :confused:


His codriver is the lovely swiss lady Eugenie Decré :D

[J4MIE]

This + eye in the sky together makes a ally wonderfull for fans.

Actually I would much prefer that no helicopters were used at all at events.

[bennizw]

Because they ask you to buzz of from the great photo spots you have found J4mie? ;)

[J4MIE]

No, because:

1) Harder to hear the cars if at all
2) If you are walking down a stage and can't hear a car approaching cos of a helicopter, can be quite dangerous!

[Tomi]

No, because:

1) Harder to hear the cars if at all
2) If you are walking down a stage and can't hear a car approaching cos of a helicopter, can be quite dangerous!

agree 100%

[feresc13]

No, because:

1) Harder to hear the cars if at all


Last Catalunya Rally I "lost" some photos cause of the helicopter noise, I couldn't hear the car.

[feresc13]

His codriver is the lovely swiss lady Eugenie Decré :D

I prefer Ramona Karlsson :love:

[Tom206wrc]

Lucky guy Anders Grondal !!! He will be codriven by Maria Andersson in 2008 !!! :p :

http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=5093

[Micke_VOC]

Lets talk about Swedish Rally now..not only codriver girls =)

Subaru World Rally Team have entry two cars, Solberg and Atkinsson.

[alleskids]

The double tasking of co-driver Eddy Chevaillier with both Peter van Mersteijn senior and Francois Fuval has been partly solved. Both junior and senior Peter van Mersteijn would do the 4 tarmac WRC rallies, but instead of Rallye Monte Carlo, they will do the Swedisch Rally with their Focus WRC06. It has been a very long time that Dutch drivers drove the Swedisch Rally, so it is a nice solution.

[pucky54]

Are the van Merksteijns doing the "Wevers Cup" (Euro Rally Challenge) too?

[MartijnS]

No, I don't think so, am not sure though.

[GigiGalliNo1]

No, because:

1) Harder to hear the cars if at all
2) If you are walking down a stage and can't hear a car approaching cos of a helicopter, can be quite dangerous!

But doesn't it make sence when yu hear a heli you know a car is coming? Wouldn't people for example your self whom has been following rally much longer then me (I think) know this by now? I would preffer there to be heli's as then "Oh get prepaird a car is coming"... hrmmm

[Daniel]

You should know that there's a two minute gap. If there is no helicopter you can hear the car and can get a good idea of how long it will be with you. People like j4mie are looking through a lens. Not down the stage. I think helicopters shouldn't be there either. A rally is for spectators and competitors. Not armchair wrc fans.

[Magnus]

Lucky guy Anders Grondal !!! He will be codriven by Maria Andersson in 2008 !!! :p :

http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=5093

So what abt Flodin then? I thought they where a great couple...
Hmm...

[J4MIE]

But doesn't it make sence when yu hear a heli you know a car is coming? Wouldn't people for example your self whom has been following rally much longer then me (I think) know this by now? I would preffer there to be heli's as then "Oh get prepaird a car is coming"... hrmmm

Of course, it would be easy if there was never a car coming when a helicopter decides to pass, or if there was always a car coming. It's when the first three helicopters go over the stage, so you jump off to the side, only to stand there for a while when nothing hapens. So then the fourth chopper, following the car along the stage, approaches but spectators ignore it because obviously nothing is coming.

AKA "crying wolf".

Anyone who has walked down a stage with me would know that I do it safely and if there is any doubt if there's a car approaching, I get off the road and wait until it passes. Typically this takes approximately fifteen minutes, but I prefer to be on the safe side because as soon as I decide there is nothing coming and jump back onto the road, that's when a car will arrive!!

PS I have been going to rallies since I was two weeks old, so probably a lot longer than you.

[Daniel]

Remember Finland this year? Yeah that was the last car. Oops! :p

[Erki]

I think helicopters shouldn't be there either. A rally is for spectators and competitors. Not armchair wrc fans.

It doesn't matter much to me if there are helicopters on the stages or not. Weren't they banned a few years ago anyway? Must have been a temporary ban then. :confused:

I won't bother going to more detail(because there isn't many, just an opinion), but I disagree with your last statement.

[Tom206wrc]

Entries close the 3rd january, and update of the swedish site isn't fast :mark:

[WRXedUSA]

Swedish news reporting Gronholm will drive a Ford WRC in Sweden?

Is this news, or just news to me?

[Viktory]

Swedish news reporting Gronholm will drive a Ford WRC in Sweden?

Is this news, or just news to me?

That is news to me. Checked around a bit, but couldn't find anything. Amazing if true though :)

Tom: I'm guessing the website admins are enjoying a bit of christmas holiday for a few days :)

[jparker]

A rally is for spectators and competitors. Not armchair wrc fans.
So, you are not armchair wrc fan, right? If that's the case, how do you explaing over 25000 posts in this forum? Or maybe you use toilet seat when you post here?

[noel157]

So, you are not armchair wrc fan, right? If that's the case, how do you explaing over 25000 posts in this forum? Or maybe you use toilet seat when you post here?

Very good.....

Serously, a WRC rally is not for spectators, it's for television, nothing else. Sign of the times guess.

[noel157]

So, you are not armchair wrc fan, right? If that's the case, how do you explaing over 25000 posts in this forum? Or maybe you use toilet seat when you post here?

Very good.....

Serously, a WRC rally is not for spectators, it's for television, nothing else. Same as F1. Sign of the times guess.

[noel157]

So, you are not armchair wrc fan, right? If that's the case, how do you explaing over 25000 posts in this forum? Or maybe you use toilet seat when you post here?

Very good.....

Serously, a WRC rally is not for spectators, it's for television, nothing else. Same as F1. Sign of the times I guess.

[jparker]

Very good.....

Serously, a WRC rally is not for spectators, it's for television, nothing else. Same as F1. Sign of the times I guess.

Where did you get that from? Why are you quoting me if your comment has nothing to do with mine?

[Magnus]

No christmasfeelings jparker?
;)

[noel157]

Yes JP, where's your Christmas spirit.... :)

I quoted your post because I found it amusing.....
The TV remark was part of the general discussion on armchair rally fans which you were contributing to.

Happy holidays.

[Tom206wrc]

It seems Jimmy Joge will drive a Subaru Impreza GrN on this rally...does someone know if Peugeot Sweden plans to run the 207 S2000 there again and who would drive it ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

So if I understood, no update of entrylist until at least the 2nd january ??? :mark:

[Simmi]

The works Citroens are now on there and a few PWRC drivers. Still not much at the moment though.

[WRXedUSA]

That is news to me. Checked around a bit, but couldn't find anything. Amazing if true though :)

Tom: I'm guessing the website admins are enjoying a bit of christmas holiday for a few days :)

Found it: http://www.automotorsport.se/nyhetsmall.asp?version=61907

My swedish isnt the best, but trying Gronholm to score manufacturers points at critical rallies is a good strategy.

[Magnus]

It says that Ford has asked him to drive a few rallies during 2008 but that Bosse, at that point (12 oct) had not decided yet.
It also says that it is Hirvonen who has tried to pursuade Bosse into doing this. Bosse would then use Latvalas car.

BTW WRXed, looking at your profile one could almost believe that you are in Ytterhogdal... Hmm...?
;)

[Tom206wrc]

Frédéric Sauvan is on the entrylist with a Mitsubishi Lancer GrN :eek:

[Brother John]

Frédéric Sauvan is on the entrylist with a Mitsubishi Lancer GrN :eek:

Seems like a lot of drivers don´t like S2000! :p

[Simmi]

I dont really see the point in entering an S2000 on a winter event until the cars are set up better and there is a winter event in the IRC. No point in a private team spending money to do the donkey work and develop a good winter setup for no reason. I might be wrong about this but I imagine they would just get murdered by the Group N cars.

[Micke_VOC]

I dont really see the point in entering an S2000 on a winter event until the cars are set up better and there is a winter event in the IRC. No point in a private team spending money to do the donkey work and develop a good winter setup for no reason. I might be wrong about this but I imagine they would just get murdered by the Group N cars.

Is too fast for a S2000 with the gear ratios they have now and horsepower ...

[Magnus]

I wonder if daniel carlssons story is over by now, or if he manages to make yet another come back. I guess he had his last big chance when Olsberg bought the two Subarus. But he always seems very positive anyway. In an interview in NWT the 7 of december he talked abt that he had something big comming up.
Nothing his happening on his website, and he is not on the list of drivers for USR.
It will be very exciting to see which names will appear on the updated entrylist on wednesday.

[Fly]

Aaava and Rautenbach on the Xsara.

Red bull add a second driver to the team: Sousa. Too bad they stick to group N with two Mitsu.

[WRXedUSA]

I wonder if daniel carlssons story is over by now, or if he manages to make yet another come back. I guess he had his last big chance when Olsberg bought the two Subarus. But he always seems very positive anyway. In an interview in NWT the 7 of december he talked abt that he had something big comming up.
Nothing his happening on his website, and he is not on the list of drivers for USR.
It will be very exciting to see which names will appear on the updated entrylist on wednesday.

I'm sure Daniel could find a way to barbeque a Subaru in the snowy forest given the chance. Olsbergs knows better.

[JAM]

The second driver on red Bull team is a young driver from Madeira island: Bernardo Sousa. He is very fast but needs more experience to finish rallyes... is a kind of... let's say.. Latvala!

[Tom206wrc]

Aaava and Rautenbach on the Xsara.



Definitely no C4 for them ?? :(

[Magnus]

The second driver on red Bull team is a young driver from Madeira island: Bernardo Sousa. He is very fast but needs more experience to finish rallyes... is a kind of... let's say.. Latvala!

A future world champ in other words?
;)

[Koppomsbo]

Could someone please post a link to the entry list that works?

Edit : http://www.swedishrally.com/se,anmalningar.html

[Timole]

Definitely no C4 for them ?? :(

As far as i have heard the case is the following - Aava is in C4 and Rautenbach in Xsara. The question with FIA was that they wanted to register as a team, which uses the same car but different model, but FIA didn´t give them that premission.

[VFTS]

Rautenbach will do Monte and Sweden in Xsara, he will then receive a C4 for use in the rest of the season.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info VFTS ;)

[alleskids]

So we have an official second Citroen Team registered for manufacterer points? Ph Sport Citroen World Rally Team ?

[pucky54]

who knows?

[Magnus]

Looking at the entry list: Maybe someone should call Ford and remind them abt the Swedish rally...?
:)

[Roy]

Looking at the entry list: Maybe someone should call Ford and remind them abt the Swedish rally...?
:)

I was thinking the same... If they forget to entry, what will happen?
Speculate....

[Viking]

Looking at the entry list: Maybe someone should call Ford and remind them abt the Swedish rally...?
:)

Also Stobart entries missing. I guess Malcolm is using only one envelope (cutting costs).

[Tom206wrc]

When is official entrylist published ?? :confused:

[J4MIE]

When is official entrylist published ?? :confused:

If you look at the website, Tom, you will see that it says Thursday Jan 10 :)

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks J4MIE :D

[Dilek]

It' update now :)
http://www.swerally.se/se,anmalningar.html

[c4]

See Daniel Carlson entered in 307.

[Magnus]

One could almost believe that Bosse wont be driving...
:(
I had that old USR feeling today when I looked at some old footages; I wonder if it will come back. Loeb will probably wipe his rearbumper with Hirvonen and the others.
Well, well

[Simmi]

Hopefully Carlsson's entry will not fall through for any reason. He should be able to make the top 8 I'd imagine.

Also interesting to see Kristian Sohlberg in an S2000 Punto.

[Magnus]

See Daniel Carlson entered in 307.

wonder which whale that is?

[Tom206wrc]

Carlsson in a whale !!! :eek:

[c4]

Wonder what Flodin and Sandell plan to drive as TBA on entry although entered in N4.

[c4]

Also interesting to see Kristian Sohlberg in an S2000 Punto.

Perhaps taken Alen's place as Anton had planned to enter.

[Micke_VOC]

64 cars entried soo far...

+ 100 cars who will drive for the swedish championship.

[Koppomsbo]

Wonder what Flodin and Sandell plan to drive as TBA on entry although entered in N4.

Peugeot Swedens S2000 car isnt a bad guess for sandell

[Tom206wrc]

Peugeot Swedens S2000 car isnt a bad guess for sandell



Are there more or less strong rumours about Patrik Sandell being the new Peugeot-Sweden driver this year ?? :confused:

[Roy]

Great list so far. Couple of new Citroen. Thats good for the sport. Nice to see Carlsson back with a car from a different brand. Always good to see more different cars.
No Thomas Schie this year? Not that is important, but I had expected him.


Al Qassimi drives this rally too :eek: First snow entry? Is a bit different this cold, white sand ;)

[sindroms]

+ 100 cars who will drive for the swedish championship.

Which day and stages in SWE WRC will be driven by SWE championshipn cars?

[Micke_VOC]

Which day and stages in SWE WRC will be driven by SWE championshipn cars?

Last three stages saturday and sunday... and last stage on friday. (SSS)

Entry list Swedish Championship:
http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=226&urval=granskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Anm%E4lningslista&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor

[VFTS]

Thomas Schie have stopped rallying. He didnt get enough money to compete with a WRC-car in the norwegian campionship either.

Lets hope he is back in 2009!!!

[WRXedUSA]

Joge in a Evo9. That's good!

Subaru Sweden has 3 cars entered!

[A.F.F.]

Loeb will probably wipe his rearbumper with Hirvonen and the others.
Well, well


Really? Well, think again...

[A.F.F.]

Also interesting to see Kristian Sohlberg in an S2000 Punto.


Why Sohlberg, why oh why??? Sohlberg's finishing rate is smaller than Matthew Wilson's top stage times.

[Magnus]

Really? Well, think again...

Ok, I am trying. thanks for the tip :)

[Tom206wrc]

Last three stages saturday and sunday... and last stage on friday. (SSS)

Entry list Swedish Championship:
http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=226&urval=granskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Anm%E4lningslista&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor



I don't see Sandell on this swedish list :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Carlsson will drive a Bozian whale it's written on his website ;)

http://www.danielcarlsson.com

[Mirek]

He is here: http://www.swerally.se/se,anmalningar.html

[A.F.F.]

I'm glad Carlsson chose 307. I'm just afraid he chose it a year too late. 307 would have been a killer 2007.

[Micke_VOC]

Carlsson will drive a Bozian whale it's written on his website ;)

http://www.danielcarlsson.com

The Same wahle that Delcour shall use in Monte

[pino]

I am glad Carlsson will be there too :up:

[White Sauron]

The Same wahle that Delcour shall use in Monte

Let's hope Delecour won't smash it in Monte...

[A.F.F.]

Let's hope Delecour won't smash it in Monte...

Naaah. If he smashes anything, it'll be his co-driver. :D

[Daniel]

Naaah. If he smashes anything, it'll be his co-driver. :D
We're not talking about Galli here dude. This is Delecour. He doesn't smash co-drivers! He just verbally abuses them :p

[Magnus]

Daniel says on his site that if there is anything that he thinks is not up to date or in good condition he will rfuse to drive the car.
Naturally this is bacause he wants a fair chance to prove his skills. The big, huge, problem is that he has been given such chances before, not least with Olsbergs.
I guess if I were in Daniels shoes I would take any chance to drive at top level.
I hope I am proved wrong sooner or later, but daniel is not a driver who will be competeing with Hirvonen and latvala during the years to come.
daniel would do anythng to be in Petters shoes, whilst petter would do anything to be in a functioning car.
For myself: a start in the USR would be nice!

[Viking]

We're not talking about Galli here dude. This is Delecour. He doesn't smash co-drivers! He just verbally abuses them :p

So Psycho is back, the codriver better not be late calling the notes :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe-_U_DteQY

[Koppomsbo]

Daniel says on his site that if there is anything that he thinks is not up to date or in good condition he will rfuse to drive the car.


Well maybe theres more then car that can go out of date....

[A.F.F.]

We're not talking about Galli here dude. This is Delecour. He doesn't smash co-drivers! He just verbally abuses them :p

Oh yeah. Pardon my french monsieur co-driver but you're a **** ******* **** ******** ******* *****, ****** and ****!!!!!!!!

[pino]

We're not talking about Galli here dude. This is Delecour. He doesn't smash co-drivers!

You don't know Delecour then ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Bozian-Racing is a very professional team and showed it during the WRC 2006 campaign, I don't think there will be problems with Carlsson ;)

[WRXedUSA]

Daniel says on his site that if there is anything that he thinks is not up to date or in good condition he will rfuse to drive the car.
Naturally this is bacause he wants a fair chance to prove his skills. The big, huge, problem is that he has been given such chances before, not least with Olsbergs.
I guess if I were in Daniels shoes I would take any chance to drive at top level.
I hope I am proved wrong sooner or later, but daniel is not a driver who will be competeing with Hirvonen and latvala during the years to come.
daniel would do anythng to be in Petters shoes, whilst petter would do anything to be in a functioning car.
For myself: a start in the USR would be nice!

You are spot on.

He's being picky? Lest we have a short memory.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Hermes%20Foto/2005/11/11/0IPSAI9F--400x280.jpg

More falukorv for the barbeque please!

[Simmi]

Pfftt they can repair that lol!

[Koppomsbo]

More falukorv for the barbeque please!


:laugh: :laugh:

[Magnus]

There is some thread somewhere which discusses the different chassies of the 307, and what happened to them. Bosse has destroyed a few, probably on purpose ;) . One in Australia actually.
Daniel has also one destroyed on that list :D
Or should it be :(

[Magnus]

OT Koppomsbo BTW: if you hold on at 847 posts we can be a pair for ever!
Or maybe not...
Excuse me; I should have passed that last beer... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Does someone have an idea of who will codrive Daniel Carlsson ??? :confused:

[Backdraft]

It's can be Denis Giraudet, like the last season... and like Delecour ??

[VFTS]

In Sweden Denis Giraudet co-drives Eyvind Brynildsen

[swordsman]

You are spot on.

He's being picky? Lest we have a short memory.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Hermes%20Foto/2005/11/11/0IPSAI9F--400x280.jpg

More falukorv for the barbeque please!

Well, I've always earlier thought that you understood something about rallying. In that case you should know that you can't judge a driver from one single mistake. Of course you're free to think anything about Daniel, but if you judge by this one Australian mistake then you're just silly. He rolled and the car went on fire. A WRC car normally shouldn't start burning because of a roll, everyone knows. And MANY drivers have rolled a car, and many drivers have rolled their cars more times than carlsson... Of course it was a stupid roll, but the only reason you remember it is because it was totally burned out, and that wasn't really his fault. And most important: I don't believe you are so silly, you KNOW that.

[swordsman]

Daniel says on his site that if there is anything that he thinks is not up to date or in good condition he will rfuse to drive the car.
Naturally this is bacause he wants a fair chance to prove his skills. The big, huge, problem is that he has been given such chances before, not least with Olsbergs.
I guess if I were in Daniels shoes I would take any chance to drive at top level.
I hope I am proved wrong sooner or later, but daniel is not a driver who will be competeing with Hirvonen and latvala during the years to come.
daniel would do anythng to be in Petters shoes, whilst petter would do anything to be in a functioning car.
For myself: a start in the USR would be nice!

Hehe, maybe you're right Magnus... But one thing you are totally wrong about. Olsbergs was NOT a fair chance to prove skills. Remember that Daniel only went off 1 single time in Olsbergs, all other retirements was mechanical and he had mech problems on all finishes too. :)

But I agree... I'd really like him to prove his skills!

[MJW]

Olsbergs problems were with Tobias, it was he who crashed on the Finland test and then Olsbergs cancelled the rally programe.

[Magnus]

Olsbergs problems were with Tobias, it was he who crashed on the Finland test and then Olsbergs cancelled the rally programe.

It is true, but as Olsberg himself has said he was disappointed with both daniel and Mattias and thought they were better then they turned out to be. He thinks that he should have opted for some more experienced drivers.

daniel have had other possibilities though, amongst the one in Australia which the pic above hints at...

[Magnus]

Hehe, maybe you're right Magnus... But one thing you are totally wrong about. Olsbergs was NOT a fair chance to prove skills. Remember that Daniel only went off 1 single time in Olsbergs, all other retirements was mechanical and he had mech problems on all finishes too. :)

But I agree... I'd really like him to prove his skills!

Could be you are right. it maybe a subaru problem aswell...

[J4MIE]

Daniel seems like a nice guy as well, I hope it works out for him :up:

[swordsman]

Could be you are right. it maybe a subaru problem aswell...

Actually yes, it's partly a Subaru problem but more than that. I know this is like "svära i kyrkan" in Sweden (svära i kyrkan~=saying bad words in church) but I must say that Olsbergs is the big problem. I love his generosity to the rallysport but if you look closely and if you even better have some inside info you know that he does it in completely the wrong way.

If he want to invest in rallying. Why put himself, an old company boss, as team manager? Why not pay a good team to take care of everything. Go as a sponsor in for example Bozian (he did that to Daniel in 2004 - a good DC season) and let them decide everything. Instead he went as team manager himself in 2005 just letting R.E.D do the dirty work. The sum of it was a totally unsuccessful season, a team (R.E.D) that didn't want to talk to him, Daniel ending up his cooperation with him because he couldn't do a professional work and Tobias facing the end of his career. That isn't quite a gift to the rally sport - is it!?

Looking further he went into sponsoring Patrik Flodin last year... What happened? Flodin didn't have a very successful year and now he seems to be without good contracts and opportunities? From rumours I've heard that Olsbergs will sponsor no rallying this year... Monitor seems to have went off the boat too.

Now, I know half of you have been getting me wrong. I don't hate Olsbergs at all. All money they have invested shows really good will and generosity to Swedish rallysport. BUT that doesn't help the fact that Göran (Mr Olsbergs) does it the wrong way. The drivers going into the Olsbergs team doesn't get the professional surroundings needed to perform at the top level in world rallying (psychological factors etc etc) that a team manager and professional team should offer. In my opinion that's the big thing that makes drivers perform good just from time to time (and mostly bad) in Olsbergs. Look at Tobias, Daniel, Patrik........

The only consistently good performance is from Rådström in Swedish Championships. But to perform consistently good in Swedish champ is far from performing good in World champ... All of them could have performed well in Swedish champ.

Now, kill me if you want, but I'm afraid this is truth... :( Anyway, I'm happy about all the money Olsbergs has put into rallying - the only shame is they could have been much better used.

[Tom206wrc]

Sorry if that has been already written, but when official entrylist will be published ?? :confused:



EDIT: OK it will be next thursday(10th january) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Remember after last three stages saturday and sunday its gonna be 100 more cars =) This because the Swedish Championship run after the world rally event. =)
Entry list here:
http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=226&urval=granskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Anm%E4lningslista&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor




Daniel Carlsson is on the entrylist of the swedish championship too :eek:

Will he really run the entire season ??? :confused:

[pantealex]

Daniel Carlsson is on the entrylist of the swedish championship too :eek:

There is P-G Andersson with SX4 on that list also

[swordsman]

Daniel Carlsson is on the entrylist of the swedish championship too :eek:

Will he really run the entire season ??? :confused:

Of course he is on the list. If you're already driving, why not score Swedish championship points? :)

[Slipzen]

Actually yes, it's partly a Subaru problem but more than that. I know this is like "svära i kyrkan" in Sweden (svära i kyrkan~=saying bad words in church) but I must say that Olsbergs is the big problem. I love his generosity to the rallysport but if you look closely and if you even better have some inside info you know that he does it in completely the wrong way.

If he want to invest in rallying. Why put himself, an old company boss, as team manager? Why not pay a good team to take care of everything. Go as a sponsor in for example Bozian (he did that to Daniel in 2004 - a good DC season) and let them decide everything. Instead he went as team manager himself in 2005 just letting R.E.D do the dirty work. The sum of it was a totally unsuccessful season, a team (R.E.D) that didn't want to talk to him, Daniel ending up his cooperation with him because he couldn't do a professional work and Tobias facing the end of his career. That isn't quite a gift to the rally sport - is it!?

Looking further he went into sponsoring Patrik Flodin last year... What happened? Flodin didn't have a very successful year and now he seems to be without good contracts and opportunities? From rumours I've heard that Olsbergs will sponsor no rallying this year... Monitor seems to have went off the boat too.

Now, I know half of you have been getting me wrong. I don't hate Olsbergs at all. All money they have invested shows really good will and generosity to Swedish rallysport. BUT that doesn't help the fact that Göran (Mr Olsbergs) does it the wrong way. The drivers going into the Olsbergs team doesn't get the professional surroundings needed to perform at the top level in world rallying (psychological factors etc etc) that a team manager and professional team should offer. In my opinion that's the big thing that makes drivers perform good just from time to time (and mostly bad) in Olsbergs. Look at Tobias, Daniel, Patrik........

The only consistently good performance is from Rådström in Swedish Championships. But to perform consistently good in Swedish champ is far from performing good in World champ... All of them could have performed well in Swedish champ.

Now, kill me if you want, but I'm afraid this is truth... :( Anyway, I'm happy about all the money Olsbergs has put into rallying - the only shame is they could have been much better used.

Good to have you back on the forum swordsman. You always, well almost always ;) have some good opinions.

[Tom206wrc]

Of course he is on the list. If you're already driving, why not score Swedish championship points? :)



But if you don't run the entire championship you have no chance of winning overall so what's the point ?? :mark:

[Magnus]

http://www.vf.se/Sport/Bilsport/2008/Januari/Vecka-1/Carlssons-chansning.aspx
Carlsson talks abt his venture.
Amongst other things it says that he is not shure what co-driver he will use.
it is the same car as he drove in USR 05 and in Japan and Australia. He is in negotiations with Bozian regarding testing; it comes down to money(sic!) and logistics.
Bertil Klaring, Head of the rallyorganization, puts Galli as a highly plausible winner.
In total 170 cars will start, which is a all time high.

[swordsman]

Good to have you back on the forum swordsman. You always, well almost always ;) have some good opinions.

Thanx, it's good to be here, but work is taking too much time :S

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.vf.se/Sport/Bilsport/2008/Januari/Vecka-1/Carlssons-chansning.aspx
Carlsson talks abt his venture.
Amongst other things it says that he is not shure what co-driver he will use.
it is the same car as he drove in USR 05 and in Japan and Australia. He is in negotiations with Bozian regarding testing; it comes down to money(sic!) and logistics.
...



I'm a little worrying because here in France there are strong rumours of Bozian-Racing having really bad health(started since Manfred Stohl and OMV let the team down after 2006 whereas Jacky Bozian was 100% sure he would have continued in 2007 WRC championship) :mark:

Other rumours even talk about Transalliance, Patrick Henry's main sponsor/company with the intention to buy Bozian-Racing(meaning bankrupt for Jacky and his son, head of the team) :s

Really really sad ;(

[Neodyum]

Why should it be sad if Alexandre Michel buy stakes in Bozian?
It's the best way to help the team. It would be great if a new manager arrives too!

Bozian needs new drivers (new sponsors to run cars) > it means a man able to find contacts and money.

[Tom206wrc]

Alright Neodyum but when a new boss arrives, current plans of the team can be changed quickly :mark:

[swordsman]

Check out PG at the Suzuki test in Kall, Jämtland, Sweden today: http://www.vf.se/Sport/Bilsport/2008/Januari/Vecka-2/Det-ar-tempo-som-galler.aspx

[Tom206wrc]

Do we know now what cars will drive Sandell and Flodin ?? :confused:

[Neodyum]

Alright Neodyum but when a new boss arrives, current plans of the team can be changed quickly :mark:

Staying off topic (sorry).
Alexandre Michel is no more involved in the story... but there is another opportunity for Bozian.
And I don't see what can be changed... Bozian runs cars. Finding a new boss or, even better, a sales manager would be great for the team.

[Viktory]

Check out PG at the Suzuki test in Kall, Jämtland, Sweden today: http://www.vf.se/Sport/Bilsport/2008/Januari/Vecka-2/Det-ar-tempo-som-galler.aspx

Some more pictures on PG's homepage: http://www.pgandersson.se/Ny/Bilder2008/080108WRCtest.htm

[Tom206wrc]

At what time today is official entrylist published ?? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Please nobody knows at what time entrylist is published, normally, today ?? :confused:

[anncath]

Normaly it should be published today "during the day". I wonder that it´s not out,jet. Also waiting for it...

[Tom206wrc]

But that official entrylist then !!! :(

I'd like to see if Sandell will run with the 207 or not !! :mark:

[swordsman]

But that official entrylist then !!! :(

I'd like to see if Sandell will run with the 207 or not !! :mark:

I don't think you'll see that in the official list, because I don't think it's decided. It can still be TBA in the official list, you know!

[Tom206wrc]

OK :mark:

[J4MIE]

You'll just have to wait Tom!!

[Micke_VOC]

But that official entrylist then !!! :(

I'd like to see if Sandell will run with the 207 or not !! :mark:

Sandell gonne drive the Swedish Peugeot teams Peugeot 207 S2000 car

AND PWRC Championship !!!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Great :bounce: :D

[J.Lindstroem]

So far we have only seen Sandell in FWD cars, so it will be exciting to see him driving 4WD! Hope only that the car will last longer than it did for Joge in last years Swedish Rally!

[Tom206wrc]

Normally the gearbox problem should largely have been solved !! :mark:

[Micke_VOC]

Official Entrylist
http://www.swerally.se/resources/documents/entry_list_08_approved_by_fia.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Still no codriver for Daniel Carlsson :mark:

[swordsman]

Also, I saw that stage maps are now published on the site. In swedish section: Tävlingen/Bansträckning. For some reason the english version doesn't seem to be updated.

EDIT: Sorry, I realised this should be in the other thread. Hard to keep track on what thread you are in :)

[J.Lindstroem]

It will be interesting to see how many times Khalid will get stuck in a snowbank!... oh, if there is any that is! :)

[Magnus]

OT J.Lindstroem: as winner of the 2007 Best Signature Championship, commonly known as BSC, I will report your signature. Yes, PG Andersson is Junior World Rally Champion, and you call it amazing. Who else would be? It is nothing but natural.
Be warned!

[J.Lindstroem]

vilket jävla forumtroll haha

[J.Lindstroem]

OT J.Lindstroem: as winner of the 2007 Best Signature Championship, commonly known as BSC, I will report your signature. Yes, PG Andersson is Junior World Rally Champion, and you call it amazing. Who else would be? It is nothing but natural.
Be warned!

OK?

[Magnus]

Great!
:D

[Tom206wrc]

Does someone know when Daniel Carlsson plans to test the Bozian whale ??? :confused:


That can only be this week, as next one are the reconnaissances of the swedish rally roads... :mark:

[Slipzen]

Does someone know when Daniel Carlsson plans to test the Bozian whale ??? :confused:


That can only be this week, as next one are the reconnaissances of the swedish rally roads... :mark:

Still no news whether his going to start in the rally or not.

[Viktory]

According to http://www.sportinformation.se Daniel Carlsson will not enter the Swedish rally.
He will be working towards a more long term deal instead.

[Tomi]

According to http://www.sportinformation.se Daniel Carlsson will not enter the Swedish rally.
He will be working towards a more long term deal instead.

In other words he dont have the money for the car.

[Tom206wrc]

:mark: :(

[MJW]

According to http://www.sportinformation.se Daniel Carlsson will not enter the Swedish rally.
He will be working towards a more long term deal instead.
I read something last week that he wasn't sure that spending money on a one off appearance in a 307 WRC was a wise way to spend money, and that he was weighing up the benefit of trying to put a S2000 deal instead - I dont know if that was IRC though.

[Micke_VOC]

Daniel Carlsson is still on the Swedish Championship entry list, maybe we gonna see him Saturday and Sunday in the national event after the WRC-Event.

I hope so...

[Tom206wrc]

Daniel Carlsson is still on the Swedish Championship entry list...





That doesn't mean anything you know !! ;)

François Delecour was on Monte-Carlo entrylist long after we knew he hadn't budget to run the rally :mark:

The officials don't remove your name from the list immediatly...

[Micke_VOC]

That doesn't mean anything you know !! ;)

François Delecour was on Monte-Carlo entrylist long after we knew he hadn't budget to run the rally :mark:

The officials don't remove your name from the list immediatly...

I know that , but the Swedish Championship Entrylist is little different to WRC Entry list, and his entry is uppdated today with a entrant.

Dont mean so much, but you never know..

[Tom206wrc]

Ok ;)



EDIT: on the swedish championship entrylist Patrik Sandell is still present with "TBA" car :s

[Viktory]

According to http://www.vf.se/Sport/Bilsport/2008/Januari/Vecka-5/7170.aspx the info about DC not starting found in sportinformation.se was wrong :p
DC will start the rally, one way or another. Doesn't say if he will do only the SM part or the whole rally.

[Tom206wrc]

And with the Bozian whale or another car ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

What does Carlsson write today on his website ?? :confused:

http://danielcarlsson.com/index.php?action=news&id=1686

[swordsman]

What does Carlsson write today on his website ?? :confused:

http://danielcarlsson.com/index.php?action=news&id=1686

Start in Swedish Championship in the 307WRC

[Tom206wrc]

So not Swedish Rally WRC ??? :confused:

[swordsman]

Yes, the part of Swedish Rally that is part of the Swedish Championship, but not the full rally.

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks Swordsman... ;)

By the way do you know if he's doing full 2008 swedish championship or only this rally with the whale??? :confused:

[COD]

Yes, the part of Swedish Rally that is part of the Swedish Championship, but not the full rally.


Still the answer remains, does he do only swedish championship stages, or all wrc?

[Micke_VOC]

Still the answer remains, does he do only swedish championship stages, or all wrc?

The Swedish Championship includes Saturday and Sunday last three stages and SSS on Friday night in Karlstad.

So not all stages only them....

[Tom206wrc]

And will he run all rounds of swedish championship this year or only the WRC part next week ??? :confused:

[Slipzen]

And will he run all rounds of swedish championship this year or only the WRC part next week ??? :confused:

The plan is to do all rounds in the Swedish Championship.

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks Slipzen :)

[Tom206wrc]

Does someone know what tyres will use Carlsson, BFGoodrich or Pirelli ??? :confused: