CMR2 Group A Challenge-Interest Check?

[tannat]

Was curious if any of the CMR2 gang would be interested in some Group A fun (Ford Sierra Cosworth and Lancia Delta Integrale). I'd create a little mishmash of stages of varied surfaces and we could have a little fun.

Let me know if you are interested and I'll see what I can devise...

Tannat

[Juha]

I'm in!

Finally my liking for the Sierra will come in handy. :D

[tannat]

Cheers Juha

Lets hope some others show interest..

[Marcel Haenen]

If I find some spare time, I will join as well!
I really s*ck in these cars, but it's nice to try something different from time to time.

[Exhausted]

sounds like fun!! :D

[tannat]

Let me know your thoughts..

I'm thinking 12 stages composed of three novice level rallys. Which should they be/

France-Finland-UK?

Do you guys wish to commit to one car (either Ford or Lancia) for all stages, or should you do half the stages in one car and half in the other to promote some fairness?

[Juha]

The Ford should be included, it's so fun to drive, but not on tarmac.

Finland - Ford
France - Lancia
UK - Ford/Lancia/Or why not take the Mini :D

[tannat]

The Ford should be included, it's so fun to drive, but not on tarmac.

Finland - Ford
France - Lancia
UK - Ford/Lancia/Or why not take the Mini :D

This arrangment might be an idea.

Waiting to see if a few more bite before I post details...

[jso1985]

I'm in, unless you do it on the new years week when I'm gonna be on holidays

[Rat]

Count me in Tannat! Ford Sierras are so much fun!

[tannat]

Okay gang, here we go:

FORMAT:
3 Novice level rallyes using a different car for each one:

Rally #1 Finland Novice
Car: Ford Sierra Cosworth

Rally #2 France Novice
Car: Lancia Delta Integrale

Rally #3 UK Single Stage Mode

**YOUR CHOICE AS FOLLOWS**
Stages 1-4 Rain Conditions: Lancia Delta Integrale
OR.......
Stages 1-4 Dry Conditions: Ford Sierra Cosworth


Submit times by Friday, December 21.

Please submit any questions to this thread, and happy group A-ing! :D

[tannat]

If you would like a shakedown take a drive on Safari SS1 in either car ;)

[tannat]

Hi Guys,

Don't forget this one! Times due Friday..

[Juha]

Do we have time untill friday 23.59? Probably can't do it before that.

[tannat]

I'll stretch it over the weekend if need be ;)

[Rat]

sorry Mr Tannat, I wont be playing this one.

[jso1985]

finished!

man that was some good fun with the Sierra Cosworth! :D

[tannat]

finished!

man that was some good fun with the Sierra Cosworth! :D

Glad you enjoyed it. I've been looking at some past rallying annuals of the late-eighties and caught "Group A fever" :D

Looks as if you and I may be the only participants..


Let me know what you chose for the UK stages (Lancia or Ford) and I'll do the same...

Tannat

[Juha]

Weekends not passed yet, hang on, we'll be three. :p :

[jso1985]

Glad you enjoyed it. I've been looking at some past rallying annuals of the late-eighties and caught "Group A fever" :D

Looks as if you and I may be the only participants..


Let me know what you chose for the UK stages (Lancia or Ford) and I'll do the same...

Tannat


Ford!

[Juha]

Ford for me too.

[tannat]

Daughter woke up as I was completing stage 2 of UK-I'm 2 stages away from the finish.

Look for results on the 26th, but I'll report stage times on a stage by stage basis......


Tannat

[tannat]

A fun run on the gravel stages of Finland in the Sierra Cosworth (was stage 2 a blast or what!!!).

Tannat left Finland in the lead by nearly 7 seconds, with jso1985 trailing Juha by a futher 7 seconds....

Onto the French tarmac in the Lancia Delta Integrale...

SS1:
1.......Tannat....2:24.62
2.......Juha.......2:25.71
3.......jso1985...2:26.50

SS2:
1.......Tannat.....2:13.92
2.......Juha........2:18.80
3.......jso1985....2:19.10


SS3:
1.......Juha.........0:55.71
2.......Tannat......0:58.43
3.......jso1985.....0:59.16


SS4:
1.......Tannat......2:24.45
2.......Juha.........2:28.12 (3:28.12 submitted)
3.......jso1985.....2:31.21

[tannat]

The French tarmac yields three stage wins for Tannat and another stage win for Juha. Gping into the final round in the UK Tannat leads Juha by 18 seconds with jso1985 trailing Juha by a further 27 seconds.

Will Tannat's lead hold through the UK?


France:

SS1:
1.....Tannat......2:28.18
2.....Juha.........2:28.73
3.....jso1985.....2:38.94


SS2:
1.....Tannat.......2:31.50 (I have the checksum :up :)
2.....Juha..........2:42.70
3.....jso1985......2:45.51


SS3:
1.....Tannat.......2:45.40
2.....jso1985.......2:48.40
3.....Juha...........2:48.83

SS4:
1.....Juha............2:50.92
2.....Tannat.........2:53.20
3.....jso1985........2:57,00

[tannat]

I'm reaching for the calculator-it appears as if Juha wins by 2-3 seconds (gaining back 20 seconds in the UK) but I need to confirm.

Feel free to assist with the math... :D

SS1:
1.....Juha...........2:33.03
2.....jso1985.......2:36.83
3.....Tannat........2:37.24


SS2:
1.....Juha...........1:31.57
2.....jso1985.......1:37.28
3.....Tannat........1:37.28


SS3:
1.....Juha...........3:00.02
2.....Tannat........3:06.62
3.....jso1985.......3:12.84

SS4:
1.....Juha...........2:31.52
2.....Tannat........2:36.72
3.....jso1985.......2:39.21

[Juha]

Excellent. :D

[tannat]

Juha wins by 1.9 seconds :up:

A good run to everyone :up: :beer:


If anything this should be a HUGE sign to me that i need to work on the UK stages...

What setup did you use on your cossie for the UK, Juha? I was 0 for suspension and steering, and -3 for brake bias...

Probably has nothing to do with that. I just am no good on those stages, wet or dry....

[UKOG~Will]

Well done Juha :)

[Juha]

What setup did you use on your cossie for the UK, Juha? I was 0 for suspension and steering, and -3 for brake bias...
Gearbox: 0
Suspension: +2 (harder)
Brake bias: -3
Steering: +3

I don't use the brakes too much, just a quick release of the button does the trick.

[tannat]

Gearbox: 0
Suspension: +2 (harder)
Brake bias: -3
Steering: +3

I don't use the brakes too much, just a quick release of the button does the trick.

Were you on ps1 with a wingpad?

[Juha]

I use the original ps1 equipment since 1998. :D

[tannat]

I use the original ps1 equipment since 1998. :D


As well as I :up:

[jso1985]

Can't compete agaisnt oldies with experience :p :

[Juha]

Oldie? You're older than me. :D