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ICKE
16th November 2007, 23:19
McLaren to appeal against the latest fuel decision

Lewis Hamilton still has a slim chance of taking the F1 title after McLaren lodged an appeal against a decision not to punish two other teams in Brazil.

"If we didn't lodge our intention to appeal we would have been criticised by F1 fans and insiders for not supporting our drivers' best interests," said Martin Whitmarsh, McLaren's chief operating officer.

"Our argument is with the court of appeal. During the decision making there were temperature irregularities - which could have affected these neutral judges and given an advantage to those parties who would benefit from the ruling (Ferrari)."

"I've spoken to the Jackie Stewart and Damon Hill and they are confident that we have a decent chance to overturn this decision. It's very unsettling to have this appeal but the drinks were too warm and the food was too cold, there is so much at stake and we need consistency. Obviously there were issues with the air conditioning unit as well, or at the very least someone had left the window open"

Former world champion Damon Hill has accused FIA of exercising double standards.

"It does get quite difficult to see where the consistency lies. If you go back to September, McLaren's argument is that the judges back then made their decision in a room with a stable air temperature."

"I can see how a couple of degrees can be regarded as being so negligible that it wouldn't make any difference. But we're talking about such tiny differences all the time in Formula One, there has to be a line where you're one side or the other."

Jackie Stewart fully agreed with Damon Hill

"If you put chilled or cool drinks into a room with a higher temperature, there is a significant change in taste and thus it could affect the mental state of the judges. I sincerely believe it's a scandal and people have every right to be outraged"

:p Gotcha

Valve Bounce
16th November 2007, 23:26
You've been talking to that Markabilly fella, havn't you :rolleyes:

F1boat
16th November 2007, 23:40
very stupid joke.

ICKE
16th November 2007, 23:43
But atleast it caught your attention for a moment ;)

Tomi
16th November 2007, 23:44
Lol funny, but i think they focus on next season already, they have much work ahead lets hope things goes well now when they dont have Ferrari to help them out.

wmcot
16th November 2007, 23:48
The sad thing is that it's very believable!

ioan
16th November 2007, 23:53
The sad thing is that it's very believable!

Yep, he got me too.

Hawkmoon
17th November 2007, 00:03
very stupid joke.

Actually, I thought it was quite good. :up:

Valve Bounce
17th November 2007, 00:10
Wait till pino gets here. :(

Ari
17th November 2007, 01:20
I've seen worse.... not bad!!

markabilly
17th November 2007, 02:52
McLaren to appeal against the latest fuel decision

Lewis Hamilton still has a slim chance of taking the F1 title after McLaren lodged an appeal against a decision not to punish two other teams in Brazil.

"If we didn't lodge our intention to appeal we would have been criticised by F1 fans and insiders for not supporting our drivers' best interests," said Martin Whitmarsh, McLaren's chief operating officer.

"Our argument is with the court of appeal. During the decision making there were temperature irregularities - which could have affected these neutral judges and given an advantage to those parties who would benefit from the ruling (Ferrari)."

"I've spoken to the Jackie Stewart and Damon Hill and they are confident that we have a decent chance to overturn this decision. It's very unsettling to have this appeal but the drinks were too warm and the food was too cold, there is so much at stake and we need consistency. Obviously there were issues with the air conditioning unit as well, or at the very least someone had left the window open"

Former world champion Damon Hill has accused FIA of exercising double standards.

"It does get quite difficult to see where the consistency lies. If you go back to September, McLaren's argument is that the judges back then made their decision in a room with a stable air temperature."

"I can see how a couple of degrees can be regarded as being so negligible that it wouldn't make any difference. But we're talking about such tiny differences all the time in Formula One, there has to be a line where you're one side or the other."

Jackie Stewart fully agreed with Damon Hill

"If you put chilled or cool drinks into a room with a higher temperature, there is a significant change in taste and thus it could affect the mental state of the judges. I sincerely believe it's a scandal and people have every right to be outraged"

:p Gotcha

Okay, I give up, just do not get what is so funny, who is "gotcha" :confused: :confused: Some Spanish news agency??

F1boat
17th November 2007, 07:11
Actually, I thought it was quite good. :up:

Not if you have spent so much emotion about the whole thing.

SGWilko
17th November 2007, 10:28
Not if you have spent so much emotion about the whole thing.

Wow, it's only a sport. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it TBH. If is has been that much of an emotional roller coaster, why not start following bowls...... ;)

janneppi
17th November 2007, 10:39
Wow, it's only a sport. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it TBH.
Indeed, for me F1 is basically just another sport I follow, perhaps more intersting than most, but not something I would consider to be important in my life.
I mean it's not exactly the national hockey team. :p :

markabilly
17th November 2007, 16:24
McLaren to appeal against the latest fuel decision

Lewis Hamilton still has a slim chance of taking the F1 title after McLaren lodged an appeal against a decision not to punish two other teams in Brazil.

"If we didn't lodge our intention to appeal we would have been criticised by F1 fans and insiders for not supporting our drivers' best interests," said Martin Whitmarsh, McLaren's chief operating officer.

"Our argument is with the court of appeal. During the decision making there were temperature irregularities - which could have affected these neutral judges and given an advantage to those parties who would benefit from the ruling (Ferrari)."

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"If you put chilled or cool drinks into a room with a higher temperature, there is a significant change in taste and thus it could affect the mental state of the judges. I sincerely believe it's a scandal and people have every right to be outraged"

:p Gotcha

Finally I got it...at first I thought it was not nearly crazy or stupid enough to be true and actually coming out of this mess.....but then I realized the effect of warmer than proper temperature on the drinks...well known fact that Kool Aid must be kept and served very cold, such that the desired effect is to be effective!!!

My apologies to all for being so dense. But it still all Mac's own fault.

MAC should have borrowed some of those chillers from Williams for the kool aid, and not relied on those dumber than dumb FIA techs to be checking the temperatures...... :beer:

F1boat
17th November 2007, 20:45
Wow, it's only a sport. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it TBH. If is has been that much of an emotional roller coaster, why not start following bowls...... ;)

Well, I'm quite emotional, it is sometimes quite annoying, but when everything finishes well, the joy is immense :)
While following Indy Car I am not that emotional, so I am not that interested, although it is a great series. ;)

EDIT
It is interesting that I never was so emotional about soccer, though ;)

wmcot
18th November 2007, 09:48
Well, I'm quite emotional, it is sometimes quite annoying, but when everything finishes well, the joy is immense :)
While following Indy Car I am not that emotional, so I am not that interested, although it is a great series. ;)

EDIT
It is interesting that I never was so emotional about soccer, though ;)

F1 is 50% sport and 50% politics. The combination of the two is sure to make us all emotional at times!