WRC Calendar 2009

[SubaruNorway]

Norway set to be the opening round. Mexico not yet decides as they would rather have it in 2010

From FIA World Rally Championship Commision (WRCC)
(Final decision to be taken in december)

6-8/2 Norge
6-8/3 Mexico
10-12/4 Argentina
24-26/4 Portugal
8-10/5 Italia, Sardinia
29-31/5 Hellas
19-21/6 Polen
31/7-2/8 Finland
21-23/8 Kypros
11-13/9 Australia
2-4/10 Frankrike, Korsika
16-18/10 Irland

http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=4980

[Livewireshock]

No Monte, No GB, No NZ

I can see the traditionalists foaming at the mouth already.

[Livewireshock]

Or Japan or Jordan either.

Was surprised not to see Abu Dhabi pushed forward as a possible 2009 candidate, as a Middle Eastern alternative to Jordan. Especially with the heavy influx of sponsorship from there recently.

[Roy]

Where do that Norge website this from? I can't found any information of this on the FIA website. I don't trust this information.

[Le NaRcX]

Sardinia again & again, the worst rally in the championship.

Sardinia, ¿Poland?, Greece, Chipre & Portugal all the same.

No Sweden, Catalunya, GB, NZ, MC... what the hell.

[SubaruNorway]

Where do that Norge website this from? I can't found any information of this on the FIA website. I don't trust this information.

The primeminister of the Norwegian Car Asotiation (If thats the right word for it) Roar Forgaard were on the meeting

[jonas_mcrae]

no way this is the real calendar, though i like Mexico being there LOL

[Tomi]

i have a feeling this calendar will still change a few times, good and well organised events should stay in the calendar, if they want to experiment they should do it with crap events, and also they should remember that WRC is in the first place a sport, not a tourist attraction.

[Magnus]

No Swedish Rally....????!!!!
******* ***** *** ********!!!!!!
:(

[Lalo]

No Monte?

I don't think the source is trustworthy or has confirmed these data.

[SubaruNorway]

But they will be back in 2010 and GB will switch with Ireland

[Livewireshock]

This may or may not be the true calendar & it does say it is to be ratified later in December.

But it does show that the 2009 calendar will have to have drastic changes, it will have to be tough to slash the number of events down & allow for their rotated counterpart.

[Livewireshock]

Even IF the Monte, GB, New Zealand et al were re-instated for 2009, it would then mean that they would have to sit out 2010. The is the whole notion of a rotation system.

The bottom line is that no one will be happy when their favourite and/or local event is forced to have to miss out every other year. The FIA have stipulated that the policy applies to ALL rallies in order to be fairer.

No matter which way I look at it, someone is going to hurt.

[Magnus]

They interviewed Klarin, head of the swedish rally, on swedish TV4 a few minutes ago, and according to him the desicion is confirmed. A agreement on how to split the organisation between the norwegian rally and the swedish will be signed shortly.

[Magnus]

The list of rallies for 2009 looks a little bit like an embryo to having a "classical" year and then one year with newbees or special rallies in some way, and then let it run like that from year to year. It could be interesting, and leave room for more odd rallies, allthough I am shure the main sponsors woulnd´t like it very much.

[AndyRAC]

Remember 1996, no Monte or RAC, I can't believe they're gonna do this again. I thought they were going to keep the 'Classics' permament, and rotate the rest. Idiotic decision, can you imagine F1 without Monaco? I really despair at this sport sometimes.

[tmx]

that look like the worse championship. if this was true i would not watch rally that year.

[Xeroid]

No NZ !!!!! No Japan !!! No Monte !!!!
I think the FIA and WRC just crapped out big time on this one.
And they want me to pay for WRC+ FFS ??
They're going lose me for good the way they're heading. Might have to start following the 'roundies' and V8's down south.

[Livewireshock]

Remember 1996, no Monte or RAC, I can't believe they're gonna do this again. I thought they were going to keep the 'Classics' permament, and rotate the rest. Idiotic decision, can you imagine F1 without Monaco? I really despair at this sport sometimes.

It was always stated that no rally was immune from the Rotation system. No favours were being given in order to be "fair" to all.

[DonJippo]

Rotation has been tried before did not work will not work this time either.

[pino]

This can only be a joke...No Sweden, No Monte, No GB, No NZ :crazy:

[DonJippo]

This can only be a joke...No Sweden :crazy:

Even bigger reason to go to Sweden next year...plus that you need to come and pay my dinner :D

[Josti]

I wonder how people would react if Finland was rotaded.

I'm not happy with this calender, doesn't look exciting to me. They could have left some classics in it. I mean, Monte, Sweden, Spain, NZ and GB rotated at the same time. What an idiots at FIA :down:

Let alone the fact that again, 3 rallies of the same kind (Sardinia, Greece and Cyprus). What happened to the proposed mix-surface events?!

[Magnus]

Is the board at FIA official? I mean, the names of the ones taking the desicions? Not that i will stalk them in any way, but it would be interesting to see what background they have, in order to better understand their point of view.

[Brother John]

I wonder how people would react if Finland was rotaded.

I'm not happy with this calender, doesn't look exciting to me. They could have left some classics in it. I mean, Monte, Sweden, Spain, NZ and GB rotated at the same time. What an idiots at FIA :down:

Let alone the fact that again, 3 rallies of the same kind (Sardinia, Greece and Cyprus). What happened to the proposed mix-surface events?!


Now there are once changes and you start already to nag.
Natural negatively reacting if fans must missing their favorit country or rally. F*ck the classics. :s mokin:. As a matter of fact...Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, Italia, Sardinia, Greece are also classics, at last we will see totally new rallys such as....Norway, Polen and Irland.

[hari]

I think its fair if every event is in the roation system and has to sit out a year. For sure the classics will be missed. If you look on the list the 2010 events could be:

Monte
Sweden
Catalunya
Jordan
Turkye
Germany
New Zealand
Japan
Wales
xx
xx
xx

[Brother John]

For sure the classics will be missed. If you look on the list the 2010 events could be:

Monte
Sweden
Catalunya
Jordan
Turkye
Germany
New Zealand
Japan
Wales
xx
xx
xx

Com on......You say it yourself. I think its fair if every event is in the roation system and has to sit out a year.
Why you put a list her with the same old sh*t? :dozey: :confused:

[hari]

why same old ****?
this is the list how 2010 probably lool like with those events who have to sit out 2009.

It will just show that it is not that bad as written above...

I think its the best way to have all the events in the WRC.

[JAM]

O wonder why Corsica is on the 2009 calendar project... anyone read the last weeks Autosport Mag? :rolleyes:

[Roy]

O wonder why Corsica is on the 2009 calendar project... anyone read the last weeks Autosport Mag? :rolleyes:

No, didn't read. What do they write?

[AndyRAC]

It was always stated that no rally was immune from the Rotation system. No favours were being given in order to be "fair" to all.

Well that just sucks, sorry but WRC is struggling at the moment for proper media coverage and interest, so they decide to drop two of the Flagship events for 1 year, utter madness. Okay so maybe it isn't fair not to drop them, but the Monte is the most famous Rally in the World, the one Joe Bloggs has heard of. It happened in 1996, and it wasn't right, so they decide to repeat the mistake. There is a saying,' Learn from your mistakes' they obviously aren't!

[Josti]

Now there are once changes and you start already to nag.
Natural negatively reacting if fans must missing their favorit country or rally. F*ck the classics. :s mokin:. As a matter of fact...Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, Italia, Sardinia, Greece are also classics, at last we will see totally new rallys such as....Norway, Polen and Irland.

Just my opinion BJ. I don't mind if some are up for rotation, but all for the same year, no (tradition ain't wrong). Let alone the fact what we are getting back for it. I mean, Portugal, Sardinia, Acropolis, Cyprus are all pretty much from the same shed. And with only 1 snow event, and 2 tarmacs, the variety is a joke.

I don't see Mexico, Portugal (algarve) and Sardinia as classics to be honest.

[A.F.F.]

Now there are once changes and you start already to nag.
Natural negatively reacting if fans must missing their favorit country or rally. F*ck the classics. :s mokin:. As a matter of fact...Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, Italia, Sardinia, Greece are also classics, at last we will see totally new rallys such as....Norway, Polen and Irland.

With all due respect to the organizers of Rally Mexico, I don't consider it a classic rally yet.

[pino]

Even bigger reason to go to Sweden next year...plus that you need to come and pay my dinner :D

If I go, I will pay your dinner with pleasure ;)

[Sardalense]

The president o Automovel Clube de Portugal (the organisers of Rally of Portugal) said today to a newspaper, that Rally of Mexico is included in 2008 calendar because the auto club that organises the rally will be 100 years old in 2010. So they asked if they could do the rally in 2008, miss 2009 and return in 2010... But it seems that is not like that.

Was Max Mosley who decide that Mexico should stay in the championship.

http://desporto.autohoje.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=253&Itemid=52
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

[Brother John]

If I go, I will pay your dinner with pleasure ;)

If you go??? We know you go. :D I´l be your driver.

[Livewireshock]

And with only 1 snow event, and 2 tarmacs, the variety is a joke.

I think the FIA believe the new ruling allowing mixed surface rallies will compensate for this with several gravel rallies having a day competing on tarmac.

[Brother John]

I think the FIA believe the new ruling allowing mixed surface rallies will compensate for this with several gravel rallies having a day competing on tarmac.

We told you that rally on tarmac is now rally, mixed surface would be oke! ;)

[Erki]

29-31/5 Hellas

^ What the hell is that? ^

[hari]

29-31/5 Hellas

^ What the hell is that? ^

Acropolis Rally of Greece

[Roy]

Some member of Norway speaks to early...
WRC calendar 2009 leaked(?)

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/156414-0/wrc_calendar_for_2009_leaked.html

[bryst]

Is there anything official about these proposed changes to 2009's calender onwards.
I hope it doesn't happen ,no problem with rotating the newer event's but leave the classics like Monte,Sweden,Gb and Nz alone.
I thought the whole idea of Wrc was to promote the manufacturers in the biggest markets so going to places like Poland would be a retrograde step.

[SubaruNorway]

Some member of Norway speaks to early...
WRC calendar 2009 leaked(?)

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/156414-0/wrc_calendar_for_2009_leaked.html

hahaha :D

[jso1985]

Is there anything official about these proposed changes to 2009's calender onwards.
I hope it doesn't happen ,no problem with rotating the newer event's but leave the classics like Monte,Sweden,Gb and Nz alone.
I thought the whole idea of Wrc was to promote the manufacturers in the biggest markets so going to places like Poland would be a retrograde step.

with that idea then why you defend Sweden and Nz? they aren't big markets either

rotating sucks, didn't work ten years ago I doubt it will work now

[bryst]

Yeah true Sweden and New Zealand are small markets but they are both classics so for that reason alone they deserve to be in.

[N]

also, the drivers and teams love NZ because it's smooth and fast with awesome scenery, I've never heard of drivers complaining about rally NZ.