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tin-top fan

31st December 2006, 17:04

With a lot of new cars and liveries changing in 2007, I thought it would a good idea to get some pictures of the new cars. For a start, does anyone have a decent pictue of the mitsu that Aigner will drive in the P-WRC:

http://www.redbullskoda.com/img/rb_skoda_racing_eng.jpg (http://www.redbullskoda.com/index.php?lang=eng)

Captain VXR

31st December 2006, 19:54

Halvard

31st December 2006, 20:05

Henning Solberg`s Expert Ford Focus

Iain

31st December 2006, 20:07

A mockup of Henning Solberg's car is here http://www.teamexpert.no/default.aspx?m=2

LeonBrooke

1st January 2007, 07:19

I think Henning's Focus will look good. However I think the '06 Focus looks hideous, unlike the '05 Focus which looked good.

A pity the Red Bull Skodas won't be there.

1st January 2007, 09:52

A pity the Red Bull Skodas won't be there.

To look at yes; that's the one thing that team got right, the RB Fabia looked great last year.

LeonBrooke

1st January 2007, 10:04

I think almost any car in Red Bull livery looks good. The Red Bull Indycar, DTM Audi, F1 car, ...

However a Red Bull Porsche 911 GT3 RSR looks ugly, and I don't think Red Bull could make an '06 Focus look good...

Captain VXR

1st January 2007, 11:34

Mihai

1st January 2007, 13:05

For a start, does anyone have a decent pictue of the mitsu that Aigner will drive in the P-WRC:

Aigner's Red Bull Mitsu should look like it looked in 2005 (aka very nice) :

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/wrc/2005/deu/wrc-2005-deu-tm-0131.jpg
http://www.motorsport.com/photos/wrc/2005/cyp/wrc-2005-cyp-tm-0132.jpg

GigiGalliNo1

1st January 2007, 13:50

Ohhhhhhh sexy if I can say.....just like the Fabia! Haha

Mihai

1st January 2007, 19:56

I don't think Red Bull could make an '06 Focus look good...

I have mixed feelings about the 06 Focus too (it looks like a DTM car rather than a rally car). But the Red Bull livery was awesome on the older Focus WRC, when it was driven by Raimund Baumschlager of Austria:

Koppomsbo

1st January 2007, 19:59

I have mixed feelings about the 06 Focus too (it looks like a DTM car rather than a rally car)

Hmm, i would love to see Mattias Ekström flying through the Swedish forrests in the swedish rally in a Audi DTM car :up: ;)

LeonBrooke

2nd January 2007, 04:55

Have you seen the Red Bull sponsored SEAT Leon touring cars?
http://www.crash.net/picture_view~pid~58~picid~320647~cid~88~category_i d~256~event_id~china_19112006~search_string~.htm (http://www.crash.net/picture_view%7Epid%7E58%7Epicid%7E320647%7Ecid%7E8 8%7Ecategory_id%7E256%7Eevent_id%7Echina_19112006% 7Esearch_string%7E.htm)
http://www.crash.net/picture_view~pid~22~picid~314864~cid~10~category_i d~230~event_id~silverstone_15102006~search_string~ .htm (http://www.crash.net/picture_view%7Epid%7E22%7Epicid%7E314864%7Ecid%7E1 0%7Ecategory_id%7E230%7Eevent_id%7Esilverstone_151 02006%7Esearch_string%7E.htm)
Red Bull suits the Leon well doesn't it.

Oh yes. The Leon is an otherwise funny-looking but the Red Bull livery suits it well.

I have mixed feelings about the 06 Focus too (it looks like a DTM car rather than a rally car). But the Red Bull livery was awesome on the older Focus WRC, when it was driven by Raimund Baumschlager of Austria:

It does look nice.

I think the conclusion we're coming to is that we want the '06 Focus to be modified toi look like the '05 Focus, and for all teams, cars and drivers to have Red Bull sponsorship ;) .

tin-top fan

8th January 2007, 16:15

http://pix.crash.net/thumbs/283575.jpg (http://www.crash.net/news_View~t~FIRST-PICS--Munchi-s-Ford-WRT-livery-~cid~4~id~141760.htm)

Good looking car. Have to say I prefer all of the ford M2 entries than the official M1 car

tin-top fan

8th January 2007, 16:17

Also, does anyone have any pictures of the Subarus, or will they look the same as last year?

Simmi

8th January 2007, 16:36

Nice looking car is the Munchi's Focus. Dont think it will be going very fast so hopefully I'll be able to get a few pics of it at various points this year!

Id love to see Subaru attract a big sponsor or do some one off liveries or something to liven things up. A Corona car in Mexico for example would be great.

COD

8th January 2007, 18:59

Also, does anyone have any pictures of the Subarus, or will they look the same as last year?

It has looked the same for 10 years now. Do you think they would be innovative enough to change it?

Simmi

8th January 2007, 19:00

It has looked the same for 10 years now. Do you think they would be innovative enough to change it?

No point changing it now they've bought the paint in bulk lol.

MJW

8th January 2007, 19:47

No point changing it now they've bought the paint in bulk lol.
I thinl Subaru / Prodrive "own" that shade of blue, I read somewhere that it is copyrighted.

Simmi

8th January 2007, 19:52

I thinl Subaru / Prodrive "own" that shade of blue, I read somewhere that it is copyrighted.

That wouldnt surprise me its iconic. I didnt know you could actually copyright a colour lol. Im sure that Subaru will change colour the day that Ferrari do.

A.F.F.

8th January 2007, 20:40

I thinl Subaru / Prodrive "own" that shade of blue, I read somewhere that it is copyrighted.

You probably read it from the old forums. Some member, unfortunately I can't remember who, posted a great post according to Subaru's blue color. Was it a midi-blue? I might be totally wrong but I remember that the team, and factory, workers have a great respect and are proud towards the color.

LeonBrooke

8th January 2007, 22:59

http://pix.crash.net/thumbs/283575.jpg (http://www.crash.net/news_View%7Et%7EFIRST-PICS--Munchi-s-Ford-WRT-livery-%7Ecid%7E4%7Eid%7E141760.htm)

Good looking car. Have to say I prefer all of the ford M2 entries than the official M1 car

That is a great-looking car!

Id love to see Subaru attract a big sponsor or do some one off liveries or something to liven things up. A Corona car in Mexico for example would be great.

a yellow Impreza... it would be nice for one event....... the FIA do allow one-off liveries in the WRC, don't they?

That wouldnt surprise me its iconic. I didnt know you could actually copyright a colour lol. Im sure that Subaru will change colour the day that Ferrari do.

Ferrari and Subaru have subtley altered the shade of their cars. The Ferrari red used to be lighter but they darkened it to match the Marlboro red. Subaru used to be a bit darker in the 90s, but apart from that the car was identical.

jonkka

9th January 2007, 08:39

That wouldnt surprise me its iconic. I didnt know you could actually copyright a colour lol. Im sure that Subaru will change colour the day that Ferrari do.

I do not think one can copyright a color itself. It's like copyrighting sunlight. However, process of making one can be copyrighted and if it's difficult to reproduce exactly the same color, end result equals to copyrighting the color.

Blue and Subaru are synonymous and even though LeonBrooke is correct, it is lighter blue than it used to be, I'd hate to see Subaru switch colors. In fact, I think there was talk about them turning some major sponsor down because of uncompatible colorscheme.

a yellow Impreza... it would be nice for one event....... the FIA do allow one-off liveries in the WRC, don't they?

If I am not entirely mistaken, FIA does not have any rules about liveries apart from some identification stuff (competition number, names on car etc). In fact, liveries do change from time to time during the year (Kronos Citroen in last three rallies last year or OMV's change earlier in the year). Toyota ran their Corolla WRC's in 1998 with rally specific liveries, see:
http://www.juwra.com/toyota_1998_special_feature.html

White Sauron

9th January 2007, 09:25

Toyota ran their Corolla WRC's in 1998 with rally specific liveries, see:
http://www.juwra.com/toyota_1998_special_feature.html

Cool! Ford should do smth similar, cause they have Castrol logos too...

Simmi

9th January 2007, 15:21

I always thought Toyota shouldn't have mocked the British weather with that paint scheme. Came back to bite them ultimately on the rally lol!

cut the b.s.

9th January 2007, 16:00

[quote="LeonBrooke"]
a yellow Impreza... it would be nice for one event....... the FIA do allow one-off liveries in the WRC, don't they?
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I like this idea, maybe if Subaru have something to celebrate they could do a reversed livery for an event, would look very well

I like the Subaru blue and yellow, I agreee with the comparision to Ferrari red, its now part of the identity for both teams, why would you want it changed, the Subaru scheme may not be radicle and yes we all know what to expect on the startline in Monte but its still the classiest scheme out there

COD

9th January 2007, 16:34

Maybe if they would get a sponsor and change colours, they might get the money to achieve results. But if they prefer it like this, then let them...

Brother John

9th January 2007, 17:07

Maybe if they would get a sponsor and change colours, they might get the money to achieve results. But if they prefer it like this, then let them...

:p : :D :s mokin:

Captain VXR

9th January 2007, 17:36

Maybe if they would get a sponsor and change colours, they might get the money to achieve results. But if they prefer it like this, then let them...

Apart from Subaru are now owned by Toyota, the world's most profitable car company, something tells me :p

grugsticles

9th January 2007, 19:45

Apart from Subaru are now owned by Toyota, the world's most profitable car company, something tells me :p

Subaru... owned by Toyota??? Since when?
I was aware that part of Subaru was sold to General Motors, but not Toyota.

ste898

9th January 2007, 21:37

The subaru livery is now the most boring ever in motorsport

White Sauron

9th January 2007, 21:47

Subaru... owned by Toyota??? Since when?
I was aware that part of Subaru was sold to General Motors, but not Toyota.

Yes, it was owned by General Motors and they even produced Saab based on Subaru Impreza. But since last spring Fuji technologies (right?) and hence Subaru belongs to Toyota.

LeonBrooke

9th January 2007, 23:00

If I am not entirely mistaken, FIA does not have any rules about liveries apart from some identification stuff (competition number, names on car etc). In fact, liveries do change from time to time during the year (Kronos Citroen in last three rallies last year or OMV's change earlier in the year). Toyota ran their Corolla WRC's in 1998 with rally specific liveries, see:
www.juwra.com/toyota_1998_special_feature.html (http://www.juwra.com/toyota_1998_special_feature.html)

I was wondering because the F1 regulations prevent a major livery-change during a season, so if a car is mostly grey it has to stay like that until the next year, even if there is a sponsor-change which would lead to a colour-scheme change.

The subaru livery is now the most boring ever in motorsport

I have to agree there. Sure the blue is an identity thing, but it doesn't look good, in my opinion.

Yes, it was owned by General Motors and they even produced Saab based on Subaru Impreza. But since last spring Fuji technologies (right?) and hence Subaru belongs to Toyota.

I'd never heard anything about this, but Fuji industries does own Subaru, so if Toyota owns Fuji, they own Subaru.

cut the b.s.

9th January 2007, 23:03

The subaru livery is now the most boring ever in motorsport

Hi Steven, or is it Stephen?

L5->R5/CR

10th January 2007, 00:26

Yes, it was owned by General Motors and they even produced Saab based on Subaru Impreza. But since last spring Fuji technologies (right?) and hence Subaru belongs to Toyota.

GM sold its stake in Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru, to Toyota last year. This was part of the capital raising strategy and program that GM undertook to try to finance a minor restructure in the face of high losses from car sales.

I don't believe it is a controlling majority but is the largest single share holder, around 4% perhaps?

grugsticles

10th January 2007, 01:20

Re: Toyota > Subaru

Hmm, well you learn something every day :)

peterpz

10th January 2007, 19:19

Will Ford M1 have the same painting as in 2006? Until now Ford was hanging painting of his cars every year :P

pucky54

10th January 2007, 21:04

I think they will change the paint job again

Tom206wrc

11th January 2007, 12:32

Jean-Marie Cuoq's whale(with its new Yacco livery) testing for Monte-Carlo !!! :bounce:

http://www.rally-news.org/multimedia/photos_details.asp?gal=478

ST205GT4

11th January 2007, 12:51

Wasn't the "Subaru Blue" inheritied from it's 555 Tobacco sponsorship?

As seen here:

http://www.selected-cigarettes.com/555_cigarettes.php

So they "stole" their iconic colour.

jonkka

11th January 2007, 12:51

GM sold its stake in Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru, to Toyota last year. This was part of the capital raising strategy and program that GM undertook to try to finance a minor restructure in the face of high losses from car sales.

I don't believe it is a controlling majority but is the largest single share holder, around 4% perhaps?

As of March 31, 2006 Toyota Motor Company owned 8.69% of Fuji Heavy Industries:

http://www.fhi.co.jp/about/english/outline/fact/pdf/fact_05.pdf

Interestingly, also Suzuki has a stake (1,75% at that time).

LeonBrooke

11th January 2007, 22:45

Wasn't the "Subaru Blue" inheritied from it's 555 Tobacco sponsorship?

As seen here:

http://www.selected-cigarettes.com/555_cigarettes.php

So they "stole" their iconic colour.

Well technically, but they had had the 555 livery for so long that they should be forgiven for sticking with it, in the spirit of brand recognition.

Jean-Marie Cuoq's whale(with its new Yacco livery) testing for Monte-Carlo !!! :bounce:

http://www.rally-news.org/multimedia/photos_details.asp?gal=478

Looks great :)

padWRC

12th January 2007, 08:58

hEN.SOLBERGS FOCUS:
http://www.vgb.no/6339/

PuddleJumper

12th January 2007, 14:29

Ford have unveiled their colour scheme for 2007.

PuddleJumper

12th January 2007, 14:32

Another view of Ford's 2007 colour scheme.

White Sauron

12th January 2007, 14:41

It's photoshop of last years photos... isn't it?

miksu

12th January 2007, 14:43

That ford is kinda ugly to me... nothing compared to Munchi's!

White Sauron

12th January 2007, 14:52

If these photos are true, then I like it very much! it looks more dynamic then Focus 06.

Simmi

12th January 2007, 14:56

It's photoshop of last years photos... isn't it?

Quite right it is a photoshop of last years original images. But seen as they probably hadn't painted one up at the time they had to do something for press shots. It seems like a natural instinct to think everything is fake nowadays. It probably been revealed at the Autosport show already so I'm sure there will be a pic up soon of the car in the flesh.

A few pics of the show on crash.net, who in their wisdom focused almost entirely on the women.

http://www.crash.net/gallery.asp?cid=26&category_id=278&event_id=AutosportShow_11012007

White Sauron

12th January 2007, 18:44

Ok, it's confirmed now. Log on http://www.crash.net

Huh, and I like this inscription on the back, Ford's motto: "Feel the difference")) Is it written for Seb and Petter who will be looking at Marcus and Mikko, stretching their lead? He-he