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3rd October 2007, 16:01
http://www.f1racing.co.uk/manoftheyear

1. Start of the year - Lewis Hamilton/Australia

2. Qualifier of the year - Lewis Hamilton

3. Personality of the year - Fernando Alonso (for showing his true colours this year)

4. Car of the year - McLaren-Mercedes MP4-22

5. Pit crew of the year - McLaren

6. Drive of the year - Lewis Hamilton/USA (might have to change that to Japan!)

7. Rookie of the year - Lewis Hamilton

8. Most improved team of the year - BMW-Sauber

9. Most improved driver of the year - Nico Rosberg

10. Overtaking move of the year - Lewis Hamilton on Giancarlo Fisichella (Europe)

11. Technical director of the year - Willy Rampf/BMW-Sauber

12. Team principal - McLaren: Ron Dennis (not a huge fan of his, not everything was perfect but I have to commend everything that was thrown at him and the guy is still standing with his integrity intact and ready to fight another day)

13. Driver of the year - Lewis Hamilton

14. Man of the year - Lewis Hamilton

Kevincal
3rd October 2007, 16:14
*gags* lol :D There ARE still 2 races left ya know, with a good chance of rain at both. Sure Hamilton did good this time, but what if he doesn't qualify on pole for another wet race? It will be night and day since he'll have to deal with spray which he hardly had to deal with in Japan.

SGWilko
3rd October 2007, 17:00
http://www.f1racing.co.uk/manoftheyear

1. Start of the year - Lewis Hamilton/Australia

2. Qualifier of the year - Lewis Hamilton

3. Personality of the year - Fernando Alonso (for showing his true colours this year)

4. Car of the year - McLaren-Mercedes MP4-22

5. Pit crew of the year - McLaren

6. Drive of the year - Lewis Hamilton/USA (might have to change that to Japan!)

7. Rookie of the year - Lewis Hamilton

8. Most improved team of the year - BMW-Sauber

9. Most improved driver of the year - Nico Rosberg

10. Overtaking move of the year - Lewis Hamilton on Giancarlo Fisichella (Europe)

11. Technical director of the year - Willy Rampf/BMW-Sauber

12. Team principal - McLaren: Ron Dennis (not a huge fan of his, not everything was perfect but I have to commend everything that was thrown at him and the guy is still standing with his integrity intact and ready to fight another day)

13. Driver of the year - Lewis Hamilton

14. Man of the year - Lewis Hamilton

Three categories out of 14 Not McLaren related, that is disgusting! ;)

ioan
3rd October 2007, 17:21
*gags* lol :D There ARE still 2 races left ya know, with a good chance of rain at both. Sure Hamilton did good this time, but what if he doesn't qualify on pole for another wet race? It will be night and day since he'll have to deal with spray which he hardly had to deal with in Japan.

We already saw his wet track skills at Nurburgring!

ioan
3rd October 2007, 17:24
Three categories out of 14 Not McLaren related, that is disgusting! ;)

You're right, they could have been also the most improved team of the year, and Lewis could have been the most improved driver of the year as well as name Mike Coughlan the technical director of the year (after all he is the one behind this McLaren resurgence!).

That's it problem solved! :D ;)

ioan
3rd October 2007, 17:26
12. Team principal - McLaren: Ron Dennis (not a huge fan of his, not everything was perfect but I have to commend everything that was thrown at him and the guy is still standing with his integrity intact and ready to fight another day)

This was a very very good one! :rolleyes: :laugh:

But the next one really killed me:



14. Man of the year - Lewis Hamilton

:rotflmao:

markabilly
3rd October 2007, 17:43
you forgot

15. Biggest Cheater that got caught- Mac
16. best dad of the year-tied between RD (LH's real pop) and LH's pop
17. Best "coach's son"-LH
18. Best blackmailer-FA
19. Best politican of the year-Maxie for making people think that it was not all about the revenue
20. Best quote of the year-RD for saying LH has Mac in his blood, unlike those others who are just recycled
21. Best designer/high tech person of the year--Tied between NS and MC for their fine work at Mac

FIA
3rd October 2007, 17:59
http://www.f1racing.co.uk/manoftheyear

1. Start of the year - Lewis Hamilton/Australia

2. Qualifier of the year - Lewis Hamilton

3. Personality of the year - Fernando Alonso (for showing his true colours this year)

4. Car of the year - McLaren-Mercedes MP4-22

5. Pit crew of the year - McLaren

6. Drive of the year - Lewis Hamilton/USA (might have to change that to Japan!)

7. Rookie of the year - Lewis Hamilton

8. Most improved team of the year - BMW-Sauber

9. Most improved driver of the year - Nico Rosberg

10. Overtaking move of the year - Lewis Hamilton on Giancarlo Fisichella (Europe)

11. Technical director of the year - Willy Rampf/BMW-Sauber

12. Team principal - McLaren: Ron Dennis (not a huge fan of his, not everything was perfect but I have to commend everything that was thrown at him and the guy is still standing with his integrity intact and ready to fight another day)

13. Driver of the year - Lewis Hamilton

14. Man of the year - Lewis Hamilton

Here's what mine would be!

1. Hamilton/Maylasia
2. Hamilton
3. Hamilton or Massa
4. McLaren
5. McLaren
6. Hamilton/Fuji or Heidfeld/Montreal
7. Hamilton or Kovalainen (You can't really call Hamilton a Ro0kie)
8. BMW Sauber
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Hamilton on Raikkonen at Monza
11. Willy Rampf
12. Mario Thiessen
13. Hamilton or Raikkonen
14. Robert Kubica

ioan
3rd October 2007, 18:12
My view of this up to this point in the season, as it's not yet over:

1. Start of the year - ?

2. Qualifier of the year - Felipe Massa

3. Personality of the year - Max Mosely

4. Car of the year - McFerrari

5. Pit crew of the year - McLaren

6. Drive of the year - M. Winkelhock European GP

7. Rookie of the year - Lewis Hamilton

8. Most improved team of the year - Williams

9. Most improved driver of the year - Nico Rosberg

10. Overtaking move of the year - Takuma Sato on Fernando Alonso (was it Canada?)

11. Technical director of the year - Willy Rampf/BMW-Sauber

12. Team principal - Mario Theissen

13. Driver of the year - Nick Heidfeld

14. Man of the year - Fernando Alonso (he took all that RD and LH threw at him)

dwboogityfan
3rd October 2007, 18:23
1 - Hamilton (Australia) - although Sutil in Belgium should have been on
2 - Webber - Has destroyed Coulthard in qualy and performed better than his car should have.
3 - Ecclestone - Like or loathe him he's a personality
4 - McLaren
5 - McLaren
6 - Sato @ Canada
7 - Kovalainen
8 - Williams - Lack of manufacturer backing and still big improvement
9 - Rosberg - Although Wurz has been disappointing, Nico has seriously upped his game.
10 - Hamilton @ Monza
11 - Willy Rampf - Has made a huge difference to BMW's fortunes
12 - Flavio Briatore - Renault may have been poor this year but Flav is still a legend!
13 - Hamilton - just pips Webber, Heidfeld and Rosberg for me
14 - Hamilton

Ian McC
3rd October 2007, 18:53
I tired to be serious, I really did but I couldn't help myself!

9. Most improved driver of the year - Ralph Ralf Schumacher :eek:
14. Man of the year - Max Mosely :laugh:

:p :

Ian McC
3rd October 2007, 18:55
But the next one really killed me:

:rotflmao:

Nearly choked on your bitter pill there Ioan? ;)

jens
3rd October 2007, 19:04
How should I take the phrase "Man of the year" ?


We already saw his wet track skills at Nurburgring!

So what? This was his first race in the wet. He'll win a lot more wet races in the future. ;)

SGWilko
3rd October 2007, 20:37
I think Super Aguri need a mention, for upsetting some of the big boys in qualifying.

Williams, for keeping the A Team honest.

Spykers B Spec car

Heidfeld & Sato - both for moves on the current WDC

Luca - Most level headed team boss

RD - Most additional grey hairs in one season

MM - Jobsworth award - awarded by Esther Rantzen!!!!

;) :p : :D

ShiftingGears
3rd October 2007, 23:33
1. Start of the year - Hamilton at Australia or Malaysia strikes me

2. Qualifier of the year - Webber

3. Personality of the year - Not sure

4. Car of the year - McLaren-Mercedes MP4-22

5. Pit crew of the year - McLaren

6. Drive of the year - Webber at Fuji

7. Rookie of the year - Lewis Hamilton

8. Most improved team of the year - McLaren

9. Most improved driver of the year - Nico Rosberg

10. Overtaking move of the year - Sato on Alonso@ Canada, or Heidfeld on Alonso@Bahrain.
11. Technical director of the year - Undecided

12. Team principal - undecided

13. Driver of the year - Lewis Hamilton

14. Man of the year - Kimi. Simply because he's such a man.

ShiftingGears
4th October 2007, 01:37
Also biggest whinger award to DC.

"Then when the team came on the radio on lap 19 and said 'safety car in this lap' I was actually laughing because it just seemed ridiculous."

How much is he paid to do his job again?

ioan
4th October 2007, 08:15
How should I take the phrase "Man of the year" ?



So what? This was his first race in the wet. He'll win a lot more wet races in the future. ;)

You talk like if he didn't ever race before this year. :rolleyes:

ioan
4th October 2007, 08:15
Nearly choked on your bitter pill there Ioan? ;)

I could hardly stop laughing! :p :

ioan
4th October 2007, 08:17
Also biggest whinger award to DC.

"Then when the team came on the radio on lap 19 and said 'safety car in this lap' I was actually laughing because it just seemed ridiculous."

How much is he paid to do his job again?

He was actually right. What difference was there between 1st or 19th lap?! None, the circuit was just as wet if not worse.
They should have had a rolling start and that's all.

jens
4th October 2007, 09:11
You talk like if he didn't ever race before this year. :rolleyes:

I guess it's different to drive F1 car. ;) His inexperience cost him at the Nurburgring, but he showed good laptimes nevertheless - even in the wet they were similar to Alonso's.

ioan
4th October 2007, 09:39
I guess it's different to drive F1 car. ;)

Must be because the F1 car has TC! Not like that makes it more difficult to drive in slippery conditions. :rolleyes:

jens
4th October 2007, 10:54
Must be because the F1 car has TC! Not like that makes it more difficult to drive in slippery conditions. :rolleyes:

Besides downplaying Hamilton's achievements, can you also find something positive about his performances? :p :

ioan
4th October 2007, 10:59
Besides downplaying Hamilton's achievements, can you also find something positive about his performances? :p :

Yeah, he's winning with a Ferrari! :D

SGWilko
4th October 2007, 11:04
Yeah, he's winning with a Ferrari! :D

There is just no hope sometimes......

ShiftingGears
4th October 2007, 11:20
You talk like if he didn't ever race before this year. :rolleyes:

And Schumacher spun twice in his first wet GP, and crashed out of his second. So using your logic Schumacher was an absolutely awful wet weather driver, no?


He was actually right. What difference was there between 1st or 19th lap?! None, the circuit was just as wet if not worse.
They should have had a rolling start and that's all.


He found it ridiculous because of the prospect of himself racing of conditions he wasn't 100% comfortable in, not because the safety car was out for 19 laps. If the grand prix panned out his way the whole race would be under safety car.
And yes I agree 19 laps of SC is a joke. It was agonising!

ioan
4th October 2007, 11:33
And Schumacher spun twice in his first wet GP, and crashed out of his second. So using your logic Schumacher was an absolutely awful wet weather driver, no?

I never ever said he was the God of F1 racing after his first season in F1. Or maybe you can prove me wrong?!

Why do you have to come with this sort of useless attacks when you want to prove a point? :rolleyes:

ShiftingGears
4th October 2007, 11:39
I never ever said he was the God of F1 racing after his first season in F1. Or maybe you can prove me wrong?!

Why do you have to come with this sort of useless attacks when you want to prove a point? :rolleyes:

Are you stupid? I used an example of Schumacher to justify that results of a drivers first wet F1 grands prix aren't necessarily indicative of their true wet weather skill, and you call it an attack. Get real.

Hondo
4th October 2007, 14:05
14. Man of the Year: Nigel Stepney, the one and only man responsible for bringing the Constructor's Championship back to Ferrari. He alone, did what the entire team could not get done.

Hondo
4th October 2007, 14:05
And they fired him. Go figure.

Hondo
4th October 2007, 14:07
They could at least divy up some of the extra money with him.

ioan
4th October 2007, 15:45
Are you stupid? I used an example of Schumacher to justify that results of a drivers first wet F1 grands prix aren't necessarily indicative of their true wet weather skill, and you call it an attack. Get real.

Another attack! :rolleyes:

ioan
4th October 2007, 15:46
They could at least divy up some of the extra money with him.

He won't need it there! ;)

Crypt
4th October 2007, 21:45
I liked the survery on step 3, some good input there.

ShiftingGears
4th October 2007, 23:40
Another attack! :rolleyes:

Maybe before critisising others about having a closed mind you'd like to have an open, reasoned discussion where you don't critisise someone with a differing opinion and claiming they're attacking you. You know, just a suggestion.

ioan
5th October 2007, 07:24
Maybe before critisising others about having a closed mind you'd like to have an open, reasoned discussion where you don't critisise someone with a differing opinion and claiming they're attacking you. You know, just a suggestion.

:rolleyes:

ShiftingGears
5th October 2007, 09:16
:rolleyes:

My thoughts exactly. Especially after reading your signature.

janneppi
5th October 2007, 09:26
:rolleyes: indeed.