How come Spyker don't have Audi engines?

[FIA]

How come Spyker don't have Audi engines? Because most of there road cars do, and it would make them a decent team.

[Sleeper]

Because there are no Audi F1 engines and some of their road cars apparantley have Ferrari engines, so the F1 team does.

[FIA]

It would be cool if there was an Audi F1 engine for Spyker, though.

[Mihai]

Maybe they'll fit in one in China for some loonatic fan... :D

[nigelred5]

Because Porsche/VW/Audi is smart and has avoided the money pit that is F1 and concentrates on series where their cars actually compete, not their $$. The Porsche family has managed to remain profitable and keep VW that way as well without F1.

[wmcot]

Maybe they'll modify the R10 diesel to comply with F1 specs! ;)

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Most of the costs for F1 teams are with the engines and I doubt that they (Audi)would gain any marketing advantage by helping Spyker . Audi would have there own team before supplying engines to a backmarkers.

[ShiftingGears]

Just because its a well known car company doesn't mean it will succeed with their engines. Look at Lamborghini. So to answer your question, I think Audi have judged that they'll be fien without F1.

I don't even know if they'd comply within the regulations however - since there was an engine freeze this time last year, this can put Audi at an advantage as they can modify their engine block heavily, before entering it.

[ioan]

How come Spyker don't have Audi engines? Because most of there road cars do, and it would make them a decent team.

I fail to see how is that running with Audi engines would make them better than they are using Ferrari engines!

[jens]

I fail to see how is that running with Audi engines would make them better than they are using Ferrari engines!

Probably it is meant that Audi would give Spyker a so-called factory support and therefore Spyker would have finances to challenge top positions. At the moment they just have to buy the engine and their budget is about just over 100 Million $ - clearly too small to become a serious threat for top teams.

[ShiftingGears]

Probably it is meant that Audi would give Spyker a so-called factory support and therefore Spyker would have finances to challenge top positions. At the moment they just have to buy the engine and their budget is about just over 100 Million $ - clearly too small to become a serious threat for top teams.

Also they can work with the engine supplier as to how to build the chassis to get most out of the engine. Factory teams supplying rivals with a customer engine have no business helping them.

[SGWilko]

Because Porsche/VW/Audi is smart and has avoided the money pit that is F1 and concentrates on series where their cars actually compete, not their $$. The Porsche family has managed to remain profitable and keep VW that way as well without F1.Didn't Porsche supply TAG branded engines to McLaren in the 80's. Yes, 87 definately, I remember Prost got whipped by mansell and piquet.

The engine was heavy and less than reliable.....

Didn't Porsche supply TAG branded engines to McLaren in the 80's. Yes, 87 definately, I remember Prost got whipped by mansell and piquet.

The engine was heavy and less than reliable.....

Heavy and unreliable?

It won the titles in 84, 85 & 86.

The heavy unreliable Porsche engne was in 1991, in the back of a Footwork.

That was ****e.

[SGWilko]

The heavy unreliable Porsche engne was in 1991, in the back of a Footwork.

That was ****e.


Ah yes, Derek Warwick and Eddie Cheever wasn't it?


Heavy and unreliable?

It won the titles in 84, 85 & 86.

Oops, OK, quite heavy, but more relaible than the others? :p :

Ah yes, Derek Warwick and Eddie Cheever wasn't it?

Alboreto, Johansson and Caffi.

But had it been driven by a genetic cloning experiment using the gene pool of Senna, Schumi, Fangio and Prost it still would have been crap.

If my memory is correct, it was a V12 3 lite, which was basically two TAG 1.5 turbo units stuck end to end in a new block with the turbo taken off.

It was a Footwork paid for venture, and as such not a full works Porsche effort and didn't really have a great deal of effort and time spent on it by Weissach.

[SGWilko]

Alboreto, Johansson and Caffi.

But had it been driven by a genetic cloning experiment using the gene pool of Senna, Schumi, Fangio and Prost it still would have been crap.

No wonder I don't win the pub quizzes any more......... :rolleyes:

[nigelred5]

Case in point! The Porsche family isn't stupid and thus Audi knows well the financial demands of competing in F1. Porsche/Audi's strength has always been turbocharged engines. I recall more than one member of the clan stating they have no desire to ever compete in F1 again. I think Toyota has done more harm than good to their reputation by spending enormous amounts of money only to fail in F1.