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Roamy
12th September 2007, 22:51
Interesting Statistic


Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in
Iraq, here is a sobering statistic:

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre
of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.
That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons
for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in
the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.

Brown, Jon Brow
12th September 2007, 22:56
You can use statistics to prove anything. 50.1 % of all people know that.

Eki
12th September 2007, 22:58
Interesting Statistic


Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in
Iraq, here is a sobering statistic:

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre
of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.
That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons
for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in
the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.
You've had email again, fousto?

Actually, the US should pull out of Iraq and place those troops in Washington instead. That's where the problem seems to be, if we're to believe that chain email.

jso1985
13th September 2007, 00:15
so that actually proves the US needs desperately gun control laws? ;)

A.F.F.
13th September 2007, 00:29
Does that mean US soldiers are shooting each others ? :s

leopard
13th September 2007, 04:33
Pulling out the soldier from Iraq at least means prevent from wasting 60/100,000 soldiers and just focus to solve out the 80/10,000 firearm death properly.
Unless if it was done by intention to push the population growth rate down. :\

Hondo
13th September 2007, 04:40
so that actually proves the US needs desperately gun control laws? ;)

No, it proves there's lots of people in D.C. that need killing.

rah
13th September 2007, 05:06
Does that mean US soldiers are shooting each others ? :s

Sometimes.

CarlMetro
13th September 2007, 09:31
81.6% of all statistics are made up :p :

CarlMetro
13th September 2007, 09:32
No, it proves there's lots of people in D.C. that need killing.

Doesn't it have the largest collection of lawyers in the world? No further explanation needed then :D

Roamy
15th September 2007, 15:06
Does that mean US soldiers are shooting each others ? :s

Well maybe if we can't find any Canadians around !!

CarlFL
17th September 2007, 03:45
Interesting Statistic


Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in
Iraq, here is a sobering statistic:

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre
of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.
That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons
for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in
the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.



This statistic is just plain flawed. The writer is comparing a monthly death rate per 100,000 troops in Iraq to an annual murder rate per 100,000 inhabitants in Washington, DC.



I pulled up some stats for the number of military fatalities and the number of ground troops in Iraq from March 2003 to September 2007. The highest number of military deaths for any 22-month period since the war started was the most recent 22 months from Nov-05 through Aug-07, in which 1,810 died. During that period, there was an average of 145,000 ground troops in Iraq. This gives a death rate of 56.86 military deaths per month per 100,000 troops deployed, or 682 military deaths per year per 100,000 troops deployed.

In 2005, the last year that I could find statistics for, the District of Columbia had 195 murders and a population of 550,521 for a murder rate of 35.4 per 100,000 inhabitants per year. The highest rate from 1960 to 2005 was 80.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants in 1991. This was 16 years ago, but is the statistic quoted.

Even if the writer's facts were correct and his logic was correct (not comparing months to years), his math is still wrong, 80.6 is 34% more than 60.

I don't care to live in Iraq or Washington, DC. The most "Interesting Statistic" to me is that no one up to this time has pointed out the logical flaws in this statement. :(

BM
17th September 2007, 04:15
I don't care to live in Iraq or Washington, DC. The most "Interesting Statistic" to me is that no one up to this time has pointed out the logical flaws in this statement. :(

It's because we have a sense of humour and aren't taking it that seriously. ;) :p

BrentJackson
17th September 2007, 06:29
Well maybe if we can't find any Canadians around !!

*makes a mental note to shoot fousto one day*



:p :D