Really How Good Is the Genie Donnelly?

[s12impreza]

In the current top Drivers in the Irish Tarmac series that use WRC's id only rate Donnely in 4th place behind......
Meeke-Higgins and Mikkelsen
you add in some of the group N drivers and id push him down to 6th behind Murphy and Leonard

[Elgin Man]

Donnelly has work so hard in Irish Rallying and works like every other man 9-5 and has put so much into Rallying and Miggins and Meeke and even Mikkelson has rallyed at World Level so Eugene is one of the best Irish Rally drivers ever to rally at amatur level.

[Bazza2541]

In the current top Drivers in the Irish Tarmac series that use WRC's id only rate Donnely in 4th place behind......
Meeke-Higgins and Mikkelsen
you add in some of the group N drivers and id push him down to 6th behind Murphy and Leonard


You are retarded!
Meeke has how many ITC titles?
Higgins has how many ITC titles?
Mikkelsen has how many ITC titles?

You and the other fukwits like you are trying to destroy the image and reputation of one of the most talented and decent men in Irish rallying. Donnelly started at the sharp end in a G3 Escort and fought his way to the top, beating all comers in the process. This is the only year that he has ever sat in a top level car, and since he hasn't won every rally he has entered you and the other begrudgers like you are prepared to write him off and slate him for no reason, He is still top the ITC leaderboard and doing it against PROFESSIONAL rally drivers like Meeke and Higgins.

[farquar wrc]

First time i ever seen Genie was launching the G3 over the famous jump on Kindrum Lake,and my first though was F***IN EEJIT,ive followed the man ever since,ie jacket ,fan club.Bazza hit the nail on the head,the man's a gentleman and for someone who up until this year,has had to pick up the bill himself for his rallying,is easily the quickest,most commited balls out driver ever to come out of Ireland

[MadCat]

In the current top Drivers in the Irish Tarmac series that use WRC's id only rate Donnely in 4th place behind......
Meeke-Higgins and Mikkelsen
you add in some of the group N drivers and id push him down to 6th behind Murphy and Leonard

I think the results speak for themselves. Who else managed to beat the latest WRC machinery in a Corolla WRC? Few.

To put him 6th behind two group N drivers is just completely stupid!

How dumb could you get ....

[cut the b.s.]

Its interesting, I dont see French or Finish or any other fans on this forum so quick to rubbish their own, what is it with the Irish?

[Bazza2541]

Its interesting, I dont see French or Finish or any other fans on this forum so quick to rubbish their own, what is it with the Irish?


Its not all of us, just a few bigots that think that because he is from Northern Ireland, that he is somehow less Irish.
Those of us that know the sport can and do recognise what a rare talent The Genie truly is.
Once this whole thing with Reid is settled and he and Charlie get back to doing their own setup, like they did in Galway, we will once again see just how good the man that pushed Gronholm really is.

[s12impreza]

You sound like u think i dont know about this driver i Remember in 2000 the cork 20 the rear shock blew out at 110mph on a bumpy staight into a 90 left he controlled the car so beutyfully lost in around 2min in the national and modified section, came back on the sunday and won the respective sections by something like 2min 30seconds,

Exactley he is in a top car and he has opisiton this year that have shown his under pressure and isnt able win every rally,



as for Bazza
ur calling me retarded......
Higgins first year trying the ITC only 9 points behind and having to use group N on 3 rounds of the ITC
Meeke entered 2 rallies in a wrc won let me see what was it two oh yeah enilated Donnelly by nearley 3 min in ulster and first time in killarney he won
Mikkelsen new to the seen lots still to lern matching donnellys times but still learning how to keep it on the road

Yes donnelly used to be the best driver in the ITC, but not anymore, the last couple of years no offence to Tim Mcnulty r Boland but they have been is only competition,

Leading the ITC fair play to hi the 2 rallies his won this year what were they JIM CLark and Manx fair play for winning them but what ppisition had he......
Meeke had he had the opsition of Meeke in killarney and uster and look who came out on top.

Im not trying to destroy his rep but his not the best anymore,

[s12impreza]

Its not all of us, just a few bigots that think that because he is from Northern Ireland, that he is somehow less Irish.
Those of us that know the sport can and do recognise what a rare talent The Genie truly is.
Once this whole thing with Reid is settled and he and Charlie get back to doing their own setup, like they did in Galway, we will once again see just how good the man that pushed Gronholm really is.

I agree since he went to reid that he has lost hs edge but 3minutes of an edge I dont know

[Bazza2541]

You sound like u think i dont know about this driver i Remember in 2000 the cork 20 the rear shock blew out at 110mph on a bumpy staight into a 90 left he controlled the car so beutyfully lost in around 2min in the national and modified section, came back on the sunday and won the respective sections by something like 2min 30seconds,

Exactley he is in a top car and he has opisiton this year that have shown his under pressure and isnt able win every rally,



as for Bazza
ur calling me retarded......
Higgins first year trying the ITC only 9 points behind and having to use group N on 3 rounds of the ITC
Meeke entered 2 rallies in a wrc won let me see what was it two oh yeah enilated Donnelly by nearley 3 min in ulster and first time in killarney he won
Mikkelsen new to the seen lots still to lern matching donnellys times but still learning how to keep it on the road

Yes donnelly used to be the best driver in the ITC, but not anymore, the last couple of years no offence to Tim Mcnulty r Boland but they have been is only competition,

Leading the ITC fair play to hi the 2 rallies his won this year what were they JIM CLark and Manx fair play for winning them but what ppisition had he......
Meeke had he had the opsition of Meeke in killarney and uster and look who came out on top.

Im not trying to destroy his rep but his not the best anymore,

Both Higgins and Meeke are PROFESSIONAL drivers, Donnelly is an AMATURE driver and is leading the ITC against all comers.
You should shut up now, before you embarass yourself even more.

[MadCat]

the last couple of years no offence to Tim Mcnulty r Boland but they have been is only competition,

and which rally have you been watching? Since when has McNulty and Boland (no disrespect to either) been competition to Donnelly? Rarely.

At the end of the day its the result at the finish of the rally which counts and its Donnelly who's been consistent. He's had a few niggling car problems this year but he's consistently finishing unlike some of his rivals.

I agree with Bazza ... you'll embarrass yourself sooner rather than later..

[s12impreza]

Both Higgins and Meeke are PROFESSIONAL drivers, Donnelly is an AMATURE driver and is leading the ITC against all comers.
You should shut up now, before you embarass yourself even more.

So your saying donnelly is the best driver in the ITC,

[s12impreza]

and which rally have you been watching? Since when has McNulty and Boland (no disrespect to either) been competition to Donnelly? Rarely.



thats exactley whaat i mean, he has had no competition, now he has his not as good as he looked,
oh whats this thing got to do with him being northern irish what difference would that make i pt higgins ahead of Donnelly and Mikklesen and for sure there not Irish.

[Bazza2541]

So your saying donnelly is the best driver in the ITC,


Hence the word 'CHAMPION' in 2004, 2005 and 2006

[J4MIE]

Guys, keep it on the discussion, don't get personal.

[s12impreza]

Hence the word 'CHAMPION' in 2004, 2005 and 2006

yes may have been best driver then and I ve no problem agreeing with that, even if he wins it this year he's not the best driver in the championship,
Meeke has won 2 rallies out of two, this year two wins against donnelly while higgins in equal machinery has beaten him on all occasions except killarney and been stuck in group N machinery, the may be as u say professional drivers, but donnelly is in the car more than meeke is and as for higgins useing group N in 3 rounds and still only 9 points behind,

I would love to see donnelly beating higgins in Cork but I dont think it will happen and if Meeke does go I cant see donnelly finishing more than 5th r 6th

[rwssport]

yes may have been best driver then and I ve no problem agreeing with that, even if he wins it this year he's not the best driver in the championship,
Meeke has won 2 rallies out of two, this year two wins against donnelly while higgins in equal machinery has beaten him on all occasions except killarney and been stuck in group N machinery, the may be as u say professional drivers, but donnelly is in the car more than meeke is and as for higgins useing group N in 3 rounds and still only 9 points behind,

I would love to see donnelly beating higgins in Cork but I dont think it will happen and if Meeke does go I cant see donnelly finishing more than 5th r 6th

No problem if he is only 5 or 6th as I'm sure Loeb and Hirvonen at least will be at the head of teh field and as they are no championship registered... and I'm sure Sordo even in the Xsara will be there or there abouts...

I think the Genie will just get the championship...

[Bazza2541]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.
Would you be so quick to compare Meeke to Loeb? I think not.

[s12impreza]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.
Would you be so quick to compare Meeke to Loeb? I think not.

Actually yes i would and id say Loeb is better at the moment but give meeke the time behind the wheel and in an equal car he'd be as good Loeb is at his limit as can be seen with him making mistakes latley-but his limit is extremley, I think Meeke could possibley match it if he was in the car as much as Loeb, on tests for citroen he wasnt far off but couldnt provide enough money for the drive

Hopefully if the thing of works teams having four cars on each event comes true meeke will get his chance to shine...........

If meeke turns up in Cork Dont be suprised to see higgins win the championship but to do that Higgins has to beat Meeke and Donnelly in that order

[Paul Hudson]

A dream but, lets have a fantasy rally, Donnelly, higgins , meeke , loeb , mikkellson , wilks , and a few more in lets say a GPN mitsubishi , they all have exactly the same car , tyres etc .

Who would come out top ?

[Res Ipsa Loquitur]

The Genie and Miggins are to become team-mates :eek:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/article2953560.ece

[Bazza2541]

The Genie and Miggins are to become team-mates :eek:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/article2953560.ece
No, they are not.
Both cars will be from the McGarritys stable, thats it.

[s12impreza]

The Genie and Miggins are to become team-mates :eek:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/article2953560.ece
Derek owns both cars but is renting the s12 to Reid Motorsport for the rest of the year so Eugene can do cork and rally Ireland,

[quicksilver]

Of those entered in the championship this year I would say he's definitely in the top 4, and easily best Irish amatuer, (counting Meeke and Higgins as professionals) Mikkelsen has shown great pace this year and his future could well be as a professional in a bigger championship than the ITC. Donnelly is still settling into his car and has said that the accident in Galway has really affected his confidence so this should be taken into consideration as I doubt he is really as far off the pace of Meeke and Higgins as he has been lately. Of the three (Meeke, Higgins, Donnelly) I would say Meeke is best but its a hard call between the other two. Oh and for the record Meeke won two out of three rallies he entered not two out of two as stated earlier.

[andyg07]

Meeke has won 2 rallies out of two, this year two wins against donnelly while higgins in equal machinery has beaten him on all occasions except killarney

get your facts right my boy. meeke has won 2 rallies out of 3. im not belittling his achievement but he dont have a 100% record

[Bazza2541]

I know this has been done to death on the Irish Rallying forum, but here goes once again.
Why is Donnelly expected to measure up to Meeke and Higgins?
Eugene is a gifted amateur, the best of the current Irish crop by a country mile, Higgins is an experienced professional rally driver with many careers wins and loads of chances at the top level, Meeke is also a professional rally driver and although lacking Higgin's experience he also has had his chances at the top level. Am I the only one who sees this? Both Higgins and Meeke belong on a bigger stage than the ITC.

What are the Donnelly knockers going to say if/when he wins the ITC again this weekend?

[cannyboy]

Name one driver that pushed Grondholm for victory in a rally this year.
Loeb.
Name another - Donnelly.

None of the wrc boys can get close to Grondholm, and here is an amature driver in his first event in a dubious car nearly beating a wrc king.

Meeke and Higgins have yet to do this, and only one of them will get a shot this weekend. Loeb handed Higgins a new ring piece in donegal, despite a huge head start for him. If donelly didn't have 10 punchures, he would have beaten higgins.

I hope donnelley is cross about some of the stupid thing being said by people on forums and serves you guys some humble pie after the weekend.
Donnelly had about ten punctures, but was matching loeb when the car worked.

If you can;t see how good eugene is, I suggest you know nothing about driving.

[Wim_Impreza]

Donnelly is a very good driver. He was so fast in the Corolla WRC and beat much professionals. He has beaten Daniel Carlsson in Rally Ireland 2006 and this year he was so fast in only his first outing in Galway with his new Impreza S12 WRC.

Mikkelsen is very young, but I am sure he has the speed for the WRC. He is probably, with Mads Ostberg, the Norwegian star the next 10 years.

I rate Meeke very high, but he had too much accidents the last years. Sure he was the best in the JWRC 2005 and 2006 and even with the Opel Corsa S1600 he made toptimes. He is a bit like (R.I.P.) Colin McRae.

Higgins is also fast, let's see what he can do in the next rounds of the PWRC this year.

[Bazza2541]

Tomorrow evening will tell the tale..................

[Bazza2541]

Well, there you have it.
Eugene Donnelly ITC Champion 2007.

He really is the best we got!!!