[ERC][CZRC] 2007 Barum Rally Zlin

[Karbonyl]

24. - 26. 8. 2007, Zlin, Czech republic

- 6th round of Intercontinental Rally Challenge
- 8th round of European Rally Championship
- 6th round of Czech International Championship

- 15 tarmac stages in 2 legs

- official website http://www.barum.rally.cz/

[Filip]

I'm looking forward to this rally as I will be on the stages. Which stages do you recommend. I will definetly be at Slušovice and Pindula, but I don't know about the others.
:D
Who is your favourite?

[Karbonyl]

There will be two new stages, which were used in the past. Both of them are on the program of the Sunday's leg. SS Zádveřice is nice and quite fast stage between the fields, SS Janišov was run in the 80's and shows classical and the toughest form of rallying in this region.

In the question of the starting field it's quite soon to talk about concrete names, but we surely can look forward to last year winner Roman Kresta and his mitsu, with which he will challenge the foreign S2000 crews for the first time.

[Tom206wrc]

That would be great if Bryan Bouffier entered this rally with the 207 S2000, because I think he finished 3rd overall last year in a 206 S1600... :)

[Wim_Impreza]

You are right Tom.

[PLuto]

That would be great if Bryan Bouffier entered this rally with the 207 S2000, because I think he finished 3rd overall last year in a 206 S1600... :)

With 207 S2000 from Schmidt/Tagai will start Janos Toth. If Bouffier will start here, it wont be in S2000.

[Jarek Z]

Will the stages from 2001 be used again?
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[ex_path]=30&pg_[search]=wsz%EAdzie&modex=pokaz&T[id]=42

[Mirek]

I don't know which stages exactly were driven in 2001 but probably "new" stage Zadverice was ;)

[CricketsFilm]

We will be present to Barum Rally....

[Filip]

I would like to see Basso on Barum, he was good in 2005.

[Karbonyl]

There were rumours that Fiat could run three cars in Zlin, but now it seems that we will see only originally planed pair Navarra - Alén.

[Karbonyl]

Cricket: great! :-)

[CricketsFilm]

Cricket: great! :-)

;-)

[Mirek]

Filip: I'm afraid the recent situation in CIR means no Basso on Barum...

[IQ206]

There were rumours that Fiat could run three cars in Zlin, but now it seems that we will see only originally planed pair Navarra - Alén.

I thought it was Navarra - Scandola duet for tarmac rallies.

[Mirek]

No, Abarth confirmed Alén for Barum ;)

[PLuto]

Abarth had from the beginning plans to changing Scandola and Alen event by event. So for Scandola was plan Maderia, for Alen Barum, for Scandola Sanremo...

And Basso will be here - but only as consultant to Abarth and spectator :(

[PLuto]

We will be present to Barum Rally....

I know, I was booking your accomodation :s mokin:

[CricketsFilm]

I know, I was booking your accomodation :s mokin:

I don't know, because my accomodation is with Fontana, but I think he doesn't have reserved.... because, I must decide how many video-operators come with me....

[PLuto]

I don't know, because my accomodation is with Fontana, but I think he doesn't have reserved.... because, I must decide how many video-operators come with me....

1 twin room name Grilli/Grilli: arrival on 22/08 departure on 27/08/2007

[Tom206wrc]

Except Vouilloz, Ojeda, Toth and Cavigioli will there be other 207 entries ?? :confused:

[PLuto]

Except Vouilloz, Ojeda, Toth and Cavigioli will there be other 207 entries ?? :confused:

We will see, it is still too early. Maybe yes, maybe not. Now, we have entries only from Nicolas, Enrique and Janos.

[CricketsFilm]

1 twin room name Grilli/Grilli: arrival on 22/08 departure on 27/08/2007

Is my room........ :-)

then...... you know the hotel name.....!

Which hotel have reserved to me?

[Filip]

]No, Abarth confirmed Alén for Barum ;)

He will also be interesting for sure,but how fast can he be on tarmac?

[Mirek]

Filip: We'll see. Probably not on top, but who knows... It's a pitty that Basso will be here only as a spectator. I think Fiat won't score many points on Barum rally with nominated duo...

[PLuto]

Is my room........ :-)

then...... you know the hotel name.....!

Which hotel have reserved to me?

Hotel Rottal (http://www.hotelrottal.cz/, in english http://www.hotel.cz/en/rottal/)

[harriswrc]

And now the Barum Rally! Any news about the entries? When the entrylist will be announced?

[PLuto]

And now the Barum Rally! Any news about the entries? When the entrylist will be announced?

Entry list will be published next Monday :)

[HaCo]

Looking forward to this event. :) Let the next IRC battle begin!!! :D

[Filip]

I just hope we won't see new Lancer disqualifications. :)

[HaCo]

I just hope we won't see new Lancer disqualifications. :)

Yeah, I hope that too. It's a real shame they get DQ-ed, but they should get their cars right.

[PLuto]

Yeah, I hope that too. It's a real shame they get DQ-ed, but they should get their cars right.

Everybody is waiting, if everything will be ok. But I must say, that there are few czech crews, who rather miss Barum rally :hmh:

[Wim_Impreza]

Everybody is waiting, if everything will be ok. But I must say, that there are few czech crews, who rather miss Barum rally :hmh:

Do you know names please?

[Mirek]

Wim_Impreza (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=88580): It is a little bit more complicated... The first thing is the Evo homologation. Yes, there are some cars here in Czech rep. which would not compete (Evo VIII rebuildt to IX etc.). But the other problem is that Czech international championship is opened to anyone. That means Czech champ points from Barum Rally will be very hard to achieve due to great foreign drivers and some crews say they don't have enough money for such expensive trip... It is sad but it is reality.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]Wim_Impreza (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=88580): It is a little bit more complicated... The first thing is the Evo homologation. Yes, there are some cars here in Czech rep. which would not compete (Evo VIII rebuildt to IX etc.). But the other problem is that Czech international championship is opened to anyone. That means Czech champ points from Barum Rally will be very hard to achieve due to great foreign drivers and some crews say they don't have enough money for such expensive trip... It is sad but it is reality.

The same situation here In Madeira...
Many Portuguese drivers didn't entered because of points system...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

According to MRT by Nocentini's site, Iliev won't be in Barum...

Can someone confirm this?

[Filip]

Kresta already made some tests and livery of his lancer will be similar to last years but slightly improved.
Here is the article and some photos:
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=4802

[Mirek]

Kresta's livery is a bit more different even the main sponsor from 2006 remains ;)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_02365b7e557796b121234676ddd6e880.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Kresta's car looks cool, but does that mean that Barum Rally organizers are going to use the gay numbers from WRC, too? :down:

[PLuto]

Kresta's car looks cool, but does that mean that Barum Rally organizers are going to use the gay numbers from WRC, too? :down:

It is IRC regulation. Every event in IRC must use this numbers... We were against it, but without chance ;(

[atsiotras79]

Nice card!!!

[Jarek Z]

It is IRC regulation. Every event in IRC must use this numbers... We were against it, but without chance ;(

Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know about it. But I believe that Barum 2007 will be another great event, even with the gay numbers! :D

[PLuto]

Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know about it. But I believe that Barum 2007 will be another great event, even with the gay numbers! :D

This version numbers is big contribution of Jean-Pierre Nicolas to IRC...

[PLuto]

And I must say, communication about accomodation with all italian teams is very difficult...

[CricketsFilm]

And I must say, communication about accomodation with all italian teams is very difficult...

....but my room is ok.....?!

[PLuto]

....but my room is ok.....?!

Communication with your team is the same :vader:
Two days ago they have sent us they want four beds more than previous reservation. But most of hotels here in Zlin are full, so we are making some little changes...

[CricketsFilm]

Communication with your team is the same :vader:
Two days ago they have sent us they want four beds more than previous reservation. But most of hotels here in Zlin are full, so we are making some little changes...

....but old reservation is ok?!?! ..... my room..... :-) ?

[PLuto]

....but old reservation is ok?!?! ..... my room..... :-) ?

We have expanded booking for your team, but now it is divided into two hotels (one is close to service area, second is close to starting ramp). Everything other depends on chief of your logistics :s mokin:

[PLuto]

So, now it is official. Renato Travaglia will start on Barum with Fiat Grande Punto Abarth S2000 from Mauro Nocentini.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

So, now it is official. Renato Travaglia will start on Barum with Fiat Grande Punto Abarth S2000 from Mauro Nocentini.

Thats great news!!!

I suppose this will be the first time a Punto S2000 will run with Pirelli tyres...

Let's see how it will be!

[GigiGalliNo1]

OOOoo another IRC round!! Im sooo into IRC right now, tho I'm like 2 rounds behind with coverage watching Belgium right now... I'll come back with more knowledge! Anyone going to the China round?

[PLuto]

OOOoo another IRC round!! Im sooo into IRC right now, tho I'm like 2 rounds behind with coverage watching Belgium right now... I'll come back with more knowledge! Anyone going to the China round?

It looks that China wont be this year :dozey:

[GigiGalliNo1]

why not? wats going on :( that sucks i really wante to go.... ok let me look at calendar to see which event looks good!

[atsiotras79]

Super news!

[GigiGalliNo1]

wat is super news?

Ok San Remo? Anyone going?

[N.O.T]

SUper News are that Travaglia will start in s2000....as for San Remo...i am going yes.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I would really like to go to either Switzerland or San Remo... but unsure... If someone can show me 100% that China will not be a round?! I'm still watching the Belgium Rally, i have just to finish it off (watching) and then watch the other one and recent round that just went by! :)

[Filip]

Is Iliev coming or not?
Without Travaglia only Kresta and Pech will drive Mitsubishis, it is a big inflation of S2000s.

Can someone recommend me what stages should I see?

[PLuto]

Is Iliev coming or not?
Without Travaglia only Kresta and Pech will drive Mitsubishis, it is a big inflation of S2000s.

Can someone recommend me what stages should I see?

Hi. Maps will be published on web tomorrow or on Monday. When you will arrive to Zlin?

[CricketsFilm]

We have expanded booking for your team, but now it is divided into two hotels (one is close to service area, second is close to starting ramp). Everything other depends on chief of your logistics :s mokin:

....Thanks, PLuto.... Now I have my Rooming List.....

[PLuto]

....Thanks, PLuto.... Now I have my Rooming List.....

Where are you? Hotel Rottal or hotel Moskva?

[Jarek Z]

Can someone recommend me what stages should I see?

One of the most famous special stages in Barum Rally are Pindula and Trojak, but I don't think they are that interesting from a spectator's point of view. The road is very narrow and among many trees
(http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=12) in dark forests (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=11), so very often it's difficult to find a good place to take photographs.
I think I prefer the stages that are led in open fields sporadically going through villages or small towns (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=27). Also the environment is more beautiful (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=22).

My photos from last year you can see at http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=1825

There will be one new stage in the 2007 edition of the rally, but I don't know what the characteristics of this new stage is.

[PLuto]

One of the most famous special stages in Barum Rally are Pindula and Trojak, but I don't think they are that interesting from a spectator's point of view. The road is very narrow and among many trees
(http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=12) in dark forests (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=11), so very often it's difficult to find a good place to take photographs.
I think I prefer the stages that are led in open fields sporadically going through villages or small towns (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=27). Also the environment is more beautiful (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1825&pg_[go]=22).

My photos from last year you can see at http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=1825

There will be one new stage in the 2007 edition of the rally, but I don't know what the characteristics of this new stage is.


This new stage has characteristic the same as SS Trojak. Narrow road in the forest. There is only one good place for specators - about 1 km after start left turn on the small stones...

[CricketsFilm]

Where are you? Hotel Rottal or hotel Moskva?

Moskva

[PLuto]

Moskva

So it is near starting ramp (and close to headquarters) ;)

Give me your email, I will send you something.

[CricketsFilm]

So it is near starting ramp (and close to headquarters) ;)

Give me your email, I will send you something.

thanks PLuto

[email:30rzyv92]info@cricketsfilm.tv[/email:30rzyv92]

[Jarek Z]

When will the maps of the stages be available online?

[PLuto]

When will the maps of the stages be available online?

Maps on Tuesday, entry list tomorrow (I hope around midday)

[PLuto]

Maps on Tuesday, entry list tomorrow (I hope around midday)

So, little repair. Entry list and maps will be published tomorrow (Monday) around 11 a.m. :D

[Karbonyl]

Another little repair: entry list and maps will be published on monday at 11 am, but only if Pluto won't fall asleep this night http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PLuto]

Another little repair: entry list and maps will be published on monday at 11 am, but only if Pluto won't fall asleep this night http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

We will see, but I am still not sleeping :s mokin:

[Karbonyl]

And here we go:

http://www.barum.rally.cz/

[harriswrc]

Here is the entrylist!
http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/pdf/entrylist.pdf
Just super! 9 Punto S2000 and 6 207 S2000!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Great Entry list!

We will see a nice battle for podium finish for sure.

Some interrogations... Alén and Joge on Tarmac... what they can do?

Alen I think it's his first time on tarmac...

[RS]

Travaglia has switched to a Punto?

And how come Roman Kresta has no FIA seeding anymore? IMO he is going to win this rally!

[PLuto]

Travaglia has switched to a Punto?

And how come Roman Kresta has no FIA seeding anymore? IMO he is going to win this rally!

Yes, Travaglia switched into Punto. And Roman doesnt have FIA priority, because last year he was starting only on one event...

[Filip]

Hi. Maps will be published on web tomorrow or on Monday. When you will arrive to Zlin?

I will arrive on 24.08. I just saw the maps and I'll look them a bit more the following days to plan my route.
Also, can I buy a badge when I come to Zlin,or I have to reserve it first?

Thank you! :)

[PLuto]

I will arrive on 24.08. I just saw the maps and I'll look them a bit more the following days to plan my route.
Also, can I buy a badge when I come to Zlin,or I have to reserve it first?

Thank you! :)

If you mean free entrance badge (for 170 CZK), you can buy it personally in Zlin or order it via internet (price is 150 CZK, but you must order it before finish of this week, because post is slow).

[Raven]

It will be for shure an interesting rally... but first I have to find accomodation! ;)

[HaCo]

Another Hnda CIVIC wasted in a few seconds.... :D

http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/foto/zeleznice.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

]
Some interrogations... Alén and Joge on Tarmac... what they can do?

Alen I think it's his first time on tarmac...



I think Jimmy Joge took part to a swedish tarmac rally(sprint?)earlier this year in the 207 and won it... :confused:

But I don't think the other drivers were from the best ones in Sweden though :mark:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think Jimmy Joge took part to a swedish tarmac rally(sprint?)earlier this year in the 207 and won it... :confused:

But I don't think the other drivers were from the best ones in Sweden though :mark:

I was searching over the Internet and I found that he has done some tarmac rallys in his career.

But about Alen.. I really think it's his first time on tarmac..

[Addicted]

]I was searching over the Internet and I found that he has done some tarmac rallys in his career.

But about Alen.. I really think it's his first time on tarmac..

Don`t worry about Alen, he will do fine. Got some talent, you know

[Tom206wrc]

With a totally reliable car I believe Nicolas Vouilloz can do extremely well on the czech tarmac, as did Bryan Bouffier last year in an S1600 ;)

[Mirek]

Tom, I think García Ojeda will be faster because he was here last year. Our bumpy and damaged tarmac stages are very hard to find a good setup. But I wish Nicolas no problems with setup. Everyone here wants the tightest possible fight for podium ;-)
I think Travaglia has the biggest chance to win because he won here twice in the past and because he will drive S2000 car as well. Of course I keep my fingers crossed for Roman Kresta. But I don't know how his Mitsu will be able to fight with S2000...

[PLuto]

]Tom, I think García Ojeda will be faster because he was here last year. Our bumpy and damaged tarmac stages are very hard to find a good setup. But I wish Nicolas no problems with setup. Everyone here wants the tightest possible fight for podium ;-)
I think Travaglia has the biggest chance to win because he won here twice in the past and because he will drive S2000 car as well. Of course I keep my fingers crossed for Roman Kresta. But I don't know how his Mitsu will be able to fight with S2000...

I believe Vouilloz too. He is faster than Enrique. But the biggest favourite for me is Travaglia.

[kabouter]

]
Alen I think it's his first time on tarmac...

Perhaps with the Punto, but not overall - I've got at least one start on tarmac in the database: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=2836 (7th in Group N). And I don't have all Italian events in 2006 and 2007 included yet, so he might have done some more...

But he's not experienced on asphalt for sure.

[PLuto]

Perhaps with the Punto, but not overall - I've got at least one start on tarmac in the database: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=2836 (7th in Group N). And I don't have all Italian events in 2006 and 2007 included yet, so he might have done some more...

But he's not experienced on asphalt for sure.

Wow, Kaboteur is still alive :p :

[GigiGalliNo1]

My fav: Vouilloz :D

[dumb]

My favourite will be Travaglia,but i think that most chances to win gets Kresta and maybe Basso...

[Mirek]

Basso will not race this year ;)

[atsiotras79]

I think that we shouldn't put Vaclav Pech aside! I think he has chances too!

[Filip]

I think Travaglia has good chances but I don't know how fast can he adapt to S2000. Kresta has an advantage of knowing the roads and a reliable car, but for sure Pech will be the most attractive! :)

[dumb]

]Basso will not race this year ;)

Ups.I missed that.Sorry

[jure dvorsek]

What about Andrea Navarra? His lead in IRC is small, so he is forsed to push very strong-end of calculation, as his Punto left him with zero points after Madeira. He has most expirience in S2000, he drove it whole season 2006 in Italiy. It will be interesting....
For Travaglia this time it will not be easy-it is first time in S2000-remember, he is used to turbo engines, this one is quite different. He drove clio S1600 two years ago...

[Mirek]

Jure, Travaglia won Barum rally with Clio S1600 in 2005, I don't think he will have problem in adaptation on S2000 car.

[Brázda]

JM Engineering and Roman Odložilík have a problem

http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/galeria/07_rzeszow_bar/106.jpg

[CricketsFilm]

JM Engineering and Roman Odložilík have a problem

http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/galeria/07_rzeszow_bar/106.jpg

JM rented some car's parts from Grifone.... I think the car is ok for Barum
I have talked with Czopik today, and if I understand well, He will doesn't drive to Barum....

[Filip]

JM Engineering and Roman Odložilík have a problem

http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/galeria/07_rzeszow_bar/106.jpg

I didn't think it was this bad. :(

[Jarek Z]

I didn't think it was this bad. :(

It was. Guzek is a very "talented" driver :/

And about Travaglia... Let's not forget that during his long career he was driving almost all kinds of cars - kit cars (306 Maxi, Clio Maxi), Super 1600 (206, Clio), group N (Sierra, Lancer), WRC (206)... He should adapt pretty quickly to the new car...

[Mirek]

It is very bad as You can see...

http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/galeria/07_rzeszow_bar/53.jpg

[HaCo]

That is the first FIAT that is total loss I think, man, this is nuts...

[GigiGalliNo1]

ouch!

[stanis]

That is the first FIAT that is total loss I think, man, this is nuts...
Yes, the body is unusable...

[PLuto]

Who wants to see, here is video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=46035127374594) of polish promising talent.

[polo10]

Any news abou the skoda fabia S2000? It was expecting that the fabia run this rally as a zero car...Anyone knows anything about it?

[PLuto]

Any news abou the skoda fabia S2000? It was expecting that the fabia run this rally as a zero car...Anyone knows anything about it?

It was only idea at the beginning of the season, but there is no chance to see that car in Zlin.

[polo10]

It was only idea at the beginning of the season, but there is no chance to see that car in Zlin.

Thanks for the information, do you know anything else about the car?

[Karbonyl]

It should be built during this year. Compared to original plans the should be homologated in summer 2008, definitely not earlier. And - no Sadev :-)

[Tom206wrc]

I also wish good luck to Janos Toth and Bea Bahor for this rally ;)

[atsiotras79]

Any news abou the skoda fabia S2000? It was expecting that the fabia run this rally as a zero car...Anyone knows anything about it?

At the end of leg 1 at Acropolis Rally I did a small interview with Jan Kopecky in which I asked him about his future and he answered me that the only thing I know about next year is that I am going to be driving the new Skoda Fabia S2000, but I do not know yet in which championship!

[Karbonyl]

Jan Kopecky is heading BIG question, because, as atsiotras79 wrote, his team should be the first one, that gets new S2000 Fabia when it will have been ready and available. But It will be during the year, not earlier than in summer, and the team doesn't know, what are they going to do at the beginning of the season. Probably they will not run another season of WRC with Fabia WRC, because this car isn't competetive already this year anymore. So hard decision for CRT Kopecky...

[atsiotras79]

Yes, very hard decision for the team. I believe that Jan worths something more than the Fabia WRC in the "big league". He deserves a better WRC car! Karbonyl, I did not say that that CRT will be the first team to get the Fabia S2000, I said that Jan told me that he will be driving the Fabia S2000 next season.

[Filip]

Vašek Pech just crashed his car in Prachatice, luckily the crew is ok and I think they have another car to race on Barum.

[RS]

Firstly, why the hell is it taking so long for Skoda Motorsport to prepare the Fabia S2000, they've probably had the shell of the new road car for over a year now, so next summer will be 2 years. It had better be good!

Secondly, I disagree about the Fabia WRC losing competitiveness. Maybe it is partly Jan getting better and better as a driver, but look at his times in Deutschland. He is very competitive.

I think they should do the first half of the year with the Fabia WRC in WRC next year, and second half with Fabia S2000 in IRC.

For the future, IRC is the only sensible option. PWRC has not enough publicity. The events in IRC also make much more sense for Skoda.

[Karbonyl]

atsiotras79: I know that you didn't say that, but I know, that it said a new chief of Skoda Motorsport, Mr. Hrabanek :-)

Filip: the car shouldn't be damaged very bad, definitely easier situation for Pech and his team than for Odlozilik and JM Engineering with their destroyed punto (according to the hot news this fiat should be ready for Barum rally!).

RS: The new boss of Skoda Motorsport said that they are going to work longer on Fabia S2000 to make it 100% competetive when released. They remember cases of Octavia WRC and Fabia WRC, which were launeched too early and that showed many many technical problems during rallys instead of tests. I disagree that Fabia WRC is competetive. It's pretty fast, but not enough, also Kopecky, who is former circuit driver and is fastest on tarmac rallys, says that he is often hardly pushing not on, but hardly behind the limits of his car. I thing this way od rallying is not necessary when fightig for sixth seventh place...

[Filip]

Kopecky just said that this is his last season with WRC and he is going to drive S2000 next year. I hope the Fabia s2000 will be at least as fast as Fiat or Pug so he can prove his potential. :)

Btw. Are there any pics of Pech's car?

[Karbonyl]

Just this one shot with mobile phone:

http://img.fotoalba.centrum.cz/img3/33/23/86/6138623/9867533_6138623_5_d61ko8XnFy.jpg

Hard to say from this pic how much is the car damaged.

[HaCo]

It looks okay, it looks like they are picknicking in the woods... :D

[Karbonyl]

LOL

Well, it would be good to see how the car looks from the opposite side, because according to some voices Pech went to the forest with rear side of the car ahead.

[Mirek]

About Fabia S2000... the project was allowed by VW representatives in the autumn, I think. So it is not 2 years of work. Maybe about a half of one because the blue car from auto show was not a prototype but only demonstrator built by using existing parts from other cars. And as Karbonyl said, Mr. Hrabanek, new Škoda Motorsport boss, said to develop the car together with CRT and maybe to have a factory team in 2009 season.

Fabia WRC is not competitive car and it never was a competitive car. Unfortunately.

About Pech's crash... I think it is his first crash from a 2004 Jänner rally where he rolled his Focus WRC.

[RS]

I'm surprised you guys think the Fabia is not and never was competitive. Look at Jan's times from Deutschland today, for sure he is an excellent tarmac driver, perhaps one of the best, but the car is 2 years old and he is mostly well under 1 s/km from the top. Perhaps if this car had been driven and setup properly in 2005 when it was launched things could have been different, but that is a different story!

As far as the S2000 goes, there are some good thoughts there. On the other hand testing is no substitute for competition... and autumn 2006 to summer 2008 is all but 2 years of development. However if this approach works and it can win from the start I will be more than happy ;)

[PLuto]

I'm surprised you guys think the Fabia is not and never was competitive. Look at Jan's times from Deutschland today, for sure he is an excellent tarmac driver, perhaps one of the best, but the car is 2 years old and he is mostly well under 1 s/km from the top. Perhaps if this car had been driven and setup properly in 2005 when it was launched things could have been different, but that is a different story!

As far as the S2000 goes, there are some good thoughts there. On the other hand testing is no substitute for competition... and autumn 2006 to summer 2008 is all but 2 years of development. However if this approach works and it can win from the start I will be more than happy ;)

I dont agree with them, for me Fabia is and was competitive car, but with not so good drivers in right time...

[RS]

I dont agree with them, for me Fabia is and was competitive car, but with not so good drivers in right time...

Yep, they should have got rid of Dr M, and Mr Metrich, hired Josef Kopecky as team boss and had Colin and Duval as drivers then it could have all been very different...

[Mirek]

Unfortunately I could see dyno charts from Fabia's WRC and I must say that it's engine was very weak (in that time I saw it). The worst one was 03 version which was even weaker than Octavia or Corolla...

[Mirek]

Pech's car after the crash, he hit a birch and displaced it:

http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/2007/mcr/pr/sa_c_140_pech_4.jpg

[Addicted]

Nasty damage down there.

[Filip]

Nothing his mechanics couldn't fix. :)

[Filip]

Fiat (Navarra, Alen, Travaglia) made some testing in biskupice.
Photos:
http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/fotky.php?co=270&a=sa

[HaCo]

Fiat (Navarra, Alen, Travaglia) made some testing in biskupice.
Photos:
http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/fotky.php?co=270&a=sa

Thanks for the link... :)

[Jarek Z]

Results of the annual Barum Rally photo competition are finally online:
http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/press_detail.php?cont=36&sec=4&lng=en

[PLuto]

Nothing his mechanics couldn't fix. :)

So, the car is able to repair, but Pech will start on Barum with another (new) car.

[Karbonyl]

Here are two videos from Abarth test session on sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pft_NcNd-IU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhmjWdSBSjE

The team found it's place at railway station in Biskupice 25km far from Zlin, quite a surprise for local people :-) The weather was mostly dry, but yesterday there was short rain and also today in the night there was raining, so boys started day two on water with roads getting dry later.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I can't wait for this rally :D

[Filip]

So, the car is able to repair, but Pech will start on Barum with another (new) car.

How much cars does he have? :D

[PLuto]

How much cars does he have? :D

Charouz Racing System is something like Czech Ralliart. Their cars are using Pech and Kresta, but they are also building cars for other customers.

[PLuto]

Anton Alen will use Basso's car from Madeira.

[PLuto]

Renato will use Punto S2000 from Trico Motor Sport. In Italian championship use this car Bernardelli, Scandola was starting with it in Salento.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=4898

[Filip]

Charouz Racing System is something like Czech Ralliart. Their cars are using Pech and Kresta, but they are also building cars for other customers.

Yes, I know it, do you maybe know what happened with the car Kresta drove on Šumava?

[Karbonyl]

Yes, I know it, do you maybe know what happened with the car Kresta drove on Šumava?This car should be sold to Hungary.

[Tom206wrc]

I can't wait for this rally :D




Just like me !!! :bounce:

[HaCo]

No pics yet from service park or anything? Looking forward to the event too... Hope Fast Freddy will have (a lot) more luck in this IRC event!

[Karbonyl]

There is no service park yet :-) You have to wait till the Thursday's shakedown is going on. After that the service zone in Otrokovice will be opened.

[Jarek Z]

Tomasz Czopik will not be present in Zlin. The only round of the ERC that he will drive this year is ELPA Halkidiki in Greece.

[harriswrc]

Tomasz Czopik will not be present in Zlin. The only round of the ERC that he will drive this year is ELPA Halkidiki in Greece.That is nice for us who will be at Halkidiki for the mixed rally! Too bad that he will not go to Zlin and Antibes.

[PLuto]

That is nice for us who will be at Halkidiki for the mixed rally! Too bad that he will not go to Zlin and Antibes.

I dont think it is so bad for us. I dont like Czopik and his behaviour...

[Tom206wrc]

Any pics of Janika testing his 207 in Hungary before start of Barum ?? :confused:

[CricketsFilm]

...from Zlin all ok.... the weather is not very good... but we hope....
Tomorrow I'll put online Intro video and shakedown on

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel TV"

[teufel]

He tested a month before, in mid-july, i think (yes, 17th of july), you can see the pictures on his website http://www.janika.hu


Any pics of Janika testing his 207 in Hungary before start of Barum ?? :confused:

[Mihai]

What an impressive S2000 field!

Any photographers willing to provide some photos for my website during the event ?

[Tom206wrc]

When is starting shakedown today ?? No pics yet ?? :confused:

[HaCo]

When is starting shakedown today ?? No pics yet ?? :confused:
LOL, I'm thinking exactly the same thing... :D

[stanis]

When is starting shakedown today ?? No pics yet ?? :confused:
No shakedown yet :)

16:00 - 19:00 no. 1-30
17:00 - 19:00 no. 30+

[Tom206wrc]

Pictures :p :

http://ewrc.windows1.explorer.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=6610







Not the ones we are waiting for, but... :laugh: :D

[Madeira]

Does anyone know if there are any link to see the shakedown results in the official website???
Thank you.

[stanis]

I think there's nothing.

Some first pics on http://rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&id=3576

[Tom206wrc]

Any shakedown news, then ?? :confused:

[dumb]

Pictures :p :

http://ewrc.windows1.explorer.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=6610







Not the ones we are waiting for, but... :laugh: :D

That one is superb http://ewrc.windows1.explorer.cz/images/2007/barum/hokej/10.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

So no news ??? Shakedown is over now :mark:

[stanis]

http://www.rally.nafoceno.cz/index.php?menu=3&podmenu=55

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Stanis ;)

[stanis]

Next pics on http://mickphoto.ic.cz/foto/barum/index.htm, http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5516/barum1mx1.jpg and small Kresta's video here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IWsHsg2gSWc and Alen: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ohElsqq0Ddo

On http://forum.ewrc.cz/topic.asp?whichpage=128&pagesize=15&Forum_Title=Mistrovstv%ED+%C8esk%E9+Republiky&Topic_Title=Barum+rally+2007+MM%C8R%2C+IRC%2C+ME&CAT_ID=31&FORUM_ID=44&TOPIC_ID=4951 are few remarks from shake but no stage times. I don't have a time to translate it all to you, so only few words:

nice Travaglia, Loix, Navarra, Kresta, Peugeots..., Toth second run for spectators - handbrake, Kresta rode with some sponsors and prizewinners from Radio Zlin, last run with Gross.

23:00-1:30 will be training on closed SSS1 - it's nice show, maybe better than on the real race ;)

[stanis]

Around Zlin is raining, forest stages will be hard - there will be a lot of mud pulled out...

Kresta told that it will be hard, maybe 2 or 3 S2000's will be before him in accordance with shakedown times. We'll see ;-) He will start 28 mins after first, there can be big differences in weather.

[Karbonyl]

So, few moments ago the recce of super special stage in Zlin begun. Crews are running on wet track, there is light rain.

[Karbonyl]

And here we have shakedown times ;-)

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=4930

[CricketsFilm]

Inserted shakedown Video on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel TV"

[Karbonyl]

Official pics from shakedown by Petr Fryba:

http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/photo.php?cont=14&sec=5&lng=en

Official video is on the way.

[Jarek Z]

Anybody knows what is the weather forecast for Saturday and Sunday?

[stanis]

Anybody knows what is the weather forecast for Saturday and Sunday?
http://www.accuweather.com/world-foreca ... N&metric=1 (http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast.asp?partner=forecastfox&traveler=0&locCode=EUR|CZ|EZ007|ZLIN&metric=1)

[stanis]

Photos by Petr Sagner, eWRC.cz
http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/fotky.php?co=234&a=sa

[pino]

Inserted shakedown Video on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel TV"

Great video grazie, keep the good work :up:

[Nowi]

24 photos from shakedown by Nowi at http://www.rally-mania.cz/galerie.php?g=264&au=0

[HaCo]

Thanks for the times and the link to pictures.

@Cricketfilms: very nice on car cam, really cool! :D

[CricketsFilm]

Great video grazie, keep the good work :up:

Grazie
-----
Thanks HaCo

[teufel]

Janos Tóth has very good impressions after shakedown, he was satisfied with the car, he said, that handling has improved lot since Ypres and he's looking forward to the race, he liked the stages very much. :up:
Some shakedown and service park pictures: http://www.peugeot.hu/sport.php?page=hirek&id=185

[Tom206wrc]

And here we have shakedown times ;-)

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=4930



Where's Jimmy Joge ?? :s

[PLuto]

104 crews passed scrutineering, staring list is here: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2007/irc/barum/prevzate.html

[stanis]

List of crews authorised to start
http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2007/irc/barum/prevzate.html

[Tom206wrc]

I don't really like when starting of SSS in in reverse order :(

[Madeira]

I'm a little bit disappointed about Eurosport broadcast for this event. I think we had more time from Ypres and Madeira!

[PLuto]

I'm a little bit disappointed about Eurosport broadcast for this event. I think we had more time from Ypres and Madeira!

Zlin is completely full of spectators.

[Madeira]

Zlin is completely full of spectators.
Yes rallys are more beautiful with so many of spectators ;) :
http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1862-bruno2.jpg

http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1750-bruno-magalhaes.jpg

http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1750-dani-sola.jpg

I hope that we gonna have a big fight on the road during the weekend!!!

[Wim_Impreza]

I'm a little bit disappointed about Eurosport broadcast for this event. I think we had more time from Ypres and Madeira!

Indeed and I watched Rali Vinho da Madeira one hour live on Portuguese television too.

[HaCo]

Indeed and I watched Rali Vinho da Madeira one hour live on Portuguese television too.
Quite surprising, in the other thread about IRC you state that S2000 are so boring to watch, but of course Madeira is a nice island... ;)


But indeed, a bit less broadcasting on Eurosport. Hope the live stage times will be good to follow.

[N.O.T]

the first stage is over Vuilloz is the winner followed by Loix......Kresta lost 17 seconds !!!!!

[stanis]

All results here: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2007/irc/barum/

[stanis]

Next 15 Petr Sagner's pics from ceremonial start and SSS1
http://www.ewrc-media.com/images/fotky.php?co=234&a=sa

[pino]

Alen slow too, any problems for him ? :s

[Karbonyl]

Before start of today's first stage check the galleries from yesterday:

http://www.barum.rally.cz/2007/gal_photo.php?sec=5&lng=en

Author: Petr Fryba

[Tom206wrc]

Joge lost only 9s to Vouilloz during the first results and suddenly they changed and he lost...31s :s

Problems with GPS I suppose :rolleyes:

[HaCo]

Alen slow too, any problems for him ? :s

Had an off in the very first corner, nothing bad on the car, just lost some time... http://www.ircseries.com

[HaCo]

First stage running!

[Karbonyl]

Andrea in finish.

[HaCo]

Loix second fastest, what a good time of travaglia, waiting for the pugs now... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Why are they locked on number 14 on stage on the live results site ?? :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

NICOLAS VOUILLOZ !!! :up: :bounce:

What happened to Roman Kresta ?? :confused:

[Karbonyl]

OK, let's go to Pindula, the first really hard challenge!

[atsiotras79]

NICOLAS VOUILLOZ !!! :up: :bounce:

What happened to Roman Kresta ?? :confused:

Puncture! Lost around 2 minutes.

[Madeira]

OK, let's go to Pindula, the first really hard challenge!
Good morning guys!

For us the first really hard challenge of the day is to know if we gonna have results to comment...

Kresta Had a puncture I think....

EDIT: it looks they fixed the problem now. Good

[HaCo]

Madeira, results look fine...

Casier lost 2 minutes or timing error :(

[Madeira]

Casier lost lot of time in SS2!

[Karbonyl]

The results run normally, I think. Navarra finished.

[atsiotras79]

Wow! Anton Alen put the pedal to the floor! Super!

[Tom206wrc]

I've read the Peugeot Spain pre-Barum press release and their purpose is to go full attack to gain maximum points on this event :p :

That could be a festival of Vouilloz/Ojeda ;)

[PLuto]

Madeira, results look fine...

Casier lost 2 minutes or timing error :(

There are no timing errors :mad: Casier was really slow.

[Karbonyl]

Anton is flying!

[HaCo]

Anton goes really well on tarmac, Loix takes lead in FIAT cup, wondering what the pugs will do on this stage... Hope Tom doesn't have to party too much ;) :D ;)

[Tom206wrc]

The rally seems to be very difficult for 2WD cars !!! Simon Jean-Joseph is far in term of seconds behind the leaders... :mark:

Last year Bouffier finished 3rd overall but there were no S2000 at that time :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Technical problem for Solowow :(

Stage delayed by 7 minutes because ambulance presence(spectator health problem)...

[Karbonyl]

Tom206wrc: SS Pindula goes mostly through deep forest and probably now in the morning there are many sticky places under the trees. Not good at all for S1600 cars.

[Tom206wrc]

Ojeda new leader :eek:

Vouilloz lost 21s and is 4th overall now :mark:

Serious problem for Casier who didn't finish :(

[Madeira]

Ojeda is pushing very hard and is leading. Casier set a normal time now which confirms that he had some problems in the previously SS...

[Tom206wrc]

Good time for Janika also(10s slower than Ojeda, back 8th overall) :)

[Wim_Impreza]

It's a pity that Kresta had that puncture. It seems he and Pech are the only Mitsubishi drivers who can set the same pace as the S2000's. Travaglia is not bad in his first outing in the Punto, Alén, Garcia Ojeda and Loix are very fast too.

[PLuto]

Casier was on SS 2 out of the road.

[CricketsFilm]

Inserted video S.S. 1 onboard and others.... on

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel TV"

[PLuto]

Volkan Isik spun in SS 2. Cavigioli problems with clutch, Betti with power steering.

[Tom206wrc]

SS4 is running :bounce:

[PLuto]

García Ojeda was on second stage after jump out of road and lost about 8 seconds.

[Madeira]

Alen better than Navarra. I think the italian are waiting for another miracle in the top standings of the rally!

[PLuto]

Pech isnt satisfied with his gearbox.

[Madeira]

I'm very impressed with the pace of Loix!!. Fast Freddy is back...

[PLuto]

I'm very impressed with the pace of García Ojeda...

[HaCo]

Loix is going well, but Ojeda, wow!!!

[Madeira]

I'm very impressed with the pace of García Ojeda...
Yeah not bad, but Loix in running his first time in Barum and it is only the second rally with the Punto!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Good Vouilloz back to provisional podium :D

Good race from Janika too, 7th overall now ;)

SS5 is running

[havk]

Very interesting rally, Ojeda is driving really fantastic, I've never seen him driving so fast. The only pity is that Kresta has a puntcure, he could fight for win. I'm surprised also of Grzegorz Grzyb - he isn't losing many to first in 2WD, Simon Jean-Joseph. Also a good rally for Toth.

[Madeira]

The first drivers must be finished the SS5 but no times until now... any problem?

[Karbonyl]

Corrado broke wheel.

[Kurt L.]

The first drivers must be finished the SS5 but no times until now... any problem?

no problems here

Loix 1st for the moment ,11sec faster then travaglia

[Madeira]

no problems here

Loix 1st for the moment ,11sec faster then travaglia
Thank you Kurt L., I'm seeing now!

[Tom206wrc]

Gaps on SS5 are more huge than on SS4 :s

[Kurt L.]

Scratch for Freddy loix ,but it was very very close

[Fiorio]

Great rally, Tom you are happy....but it´s not finished ;)
Lois very impressed....he know this rally?
And congratulation for website of times, very nice...

Goo Italians boys :D

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Cavigioli on SS5 :confused:

[Karbonyl]

You can read comments of drivers after SS 2 and SS 3.

http://www.barum.rally.cz

More to come later ;-)

[Karbonyl]

SS 7 just started! Second run at SS Pindula...

[Tom206wrc]

Best time for Vouilloz again on SS6 ;)

He reduces gap to Ojeda by 23s and to Loix by 10s :)

SS7 running

[Madeira]

Best time for Vouilloz again on SS6 ;)

He reduces gap to Ojeda by 23s and to Loix by 10s :)

SS7 running
But you must say that Loix reduce the gap to Ojeda...too!!! ;)

[Kurt L.]

problems for Navarra loses nearly 1m30

[COD]

Alen so impressive in his first ever tarmac rally!

[CricketsFilm]

Inserted onboard S.S. 3 on :

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Corrado Fontana Channel TV"

[Wim_Impreza]

Alen so impressive in his first ever tarmac rally!

Not ever, he did an Italian tarmac rally in 2005 too. ;) But he is still impressive indeed.

[Tom206wrc]

SS8 running :p :


Strange, they wrote Ojeda had a drive shaft problem at the end of SS6 but he had no more problem on SS7 :confused:

[M5]

I'm very impressed with the pace of Loix!!. Fast Freddy is back...

Would be very interresting to hear if Loix has given any comments to the differences in driving the Fiat vs the Vw.

Anyone that has heard anything ?

[Tom206wrc]

Travaglia lost 1m31s in SS8 :s

[Kurt L.]

Would be very interresting to hear if Loix has given any comments to the differences in driving the Fiat vs the Vw.

Anyone that has heard anything ?

This is what Freddy said in Madeira

Loix: “De Punto is a complete other car then the VW polo. They have both their qualities. Of course the Punto is more developed than the polo, because it concerns here a factory car. But I now see that our development work with the polo was not bad. I also like the Punto. It is a stable, predictable car.

Source :Pitstop.tv

Tried to translate it as good as possible.

[Kurt L.]

Loix takes first place,what a great scratch

[M5]

This is what Freddy said in Madeira

Loix: “De Punto is a complete other car then the VW polo. They have both their qualities. Of course the Punto is more developed than the polo, because it concerns here a factory car. But I now see that our development work with the polo was not bad. I also like the Punto. It is a stable, predictable car.

Source :Pitstop.tv

Tried to translate it as good as possible.

Thx for that !

Do you know the planned future for the Polo development of Rene Georges, being a belgier ?

[Kurt L.]

Thx for that !

Do you know the planned future for the Polo development of Rene Georges, being a belgier ?

No,I haven't heard anything about that, all i know is that Loix will drive the remainder of the Belgian Championship with the Polo.