WRC moves to pay TV in Finland

[DonJippo]

Finnish MTV3 and ISC have signed a contract for MTV3 to air WRC in Finland for next 3 years. Main feed will be on MTV3's pay TV channel, MAX, with new format and more live coverage.

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/muutlajit/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/muutlajit/2006/12/492314

[janneppi]

Oh well, there is always Iltalehti...

[Brother John]

Can't you not receive SVT in Finland?
Here in Sweden we are lucky next 2 years!

http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=33874&a=721584&from=rss
http://www.resultatservice.com/nyheter/2006/12/1213_1.html

[SubaruNorway]

Does it say anthing about the new format norwegian NRK has signed a deal for two years so i hope it's good. There will be broadcasted atleast 30min from all four days not sure about the amount of live images but most likely stage 17 Elverum 44,28km will be broadcasted live.

[Tomi]

yes we can, but pay tv sounds much better, i wonder how much they pay if bother to watch

[DonJippo]

Can't you not receive SVT in Finland?
Here in Sweden we are lucky next 2 years!

Here where I live I can get it through pay-TV :dozey:

[Brother John]

I feel very sorry for you guys in Finland. :(
This year I have only been possible to see rally at EuroSport! :s

[FrankenSchwinn]

i know a site where you can get the eurosport feed for download (usually 5-6 days after a rally) for free. i don't want to advertise it over an open forum so PM me and i'll pass along the link.

[A.F.F.]

I'm going to look for Jorma Sairanen and when I find him, I'm gonna stick my head up to his ass. And I'm not even sure if Jorma Sairanen is responsible for this. Guess I just want to stick my head up to people's asses :)

[JAM]

There is an example of what must not be done. And there goes the WRC trying to reach more audience...

[GruppoB]

It aint so bad you could live in America and get virtually no TV coverage.

[tribefiend]

It aint so bad you could live in America and get virtually no TV coverage.

Right now I'd love the opportunity to PAY for some coverage.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Someone is trying to shaft the Fins...

they know you will pay (or enough will pay to make it viable) becuase you have that many drivers in the WRC!!

[Woodeye]

But as much as I understood (that's not much) there will be also recaps of all the days in the regular MTV3. I hope the recaps are like the ones that've been in YLE for the past few years.

But the again if you compare Ruutulippu (YLE) to Motorforum (MTV3) I can only wait for worse.

[Tomi]

If the program format is close to what they promise, maybe its not so bad after all. I hope for good pre rally program, with some past driver guest who can analyse the round and also good interviews and the live thing sounds interesting too. Besides if one likes motorsport the Formula 1 is on same channel too, it can also be quite interesting next year how Heikki will do compaired to Kimi.

[pino]

Can't you not receive SVT in Finland?
Here in Sweden we are lucky next 2 years!

http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=33874&a=721584&from=rss
http://www.resultatservice.com/nyheter/2006/12/1213_1.html

Great news :up: :D I am tired of watching Eurosport and hear the interviews in german :blackeye: Swedish TV normally leaves the interviews in english :up:

[DonJippo]

Someone is trying to shaft the Fins...

they know you will pay (or enough will pay to make it viable) becuase you have that many drivers in the WRC!!

Well you get a package of four channels including the one that airs both F1 and WRC for 10€ per month so the prize ain't that bad.

[jonkka]

Besides if one likes motorsport the Formula 1 is on same channel too, it can also be quite interesting next year how Heikki will do compaired to Kimi.

That'll be a difficult comparison to make 'cause Heikki isn't involved in drinking contests and karaoke tournaments? :eek:

[janneppi]

Well you get a package of four channels including the one that airs both F1 and WRC for 10€ per month so the prize ain't that bad.
So it's 10 Eur for the whole package, or for one channel, when i tried to find info few weeks back, nothing definate was printed.

The max channel has adverts with women in bikini's, so it's not all bad. ;)

[Daniel]

I'm going to look for Jorma Sairanen and when I find him, I'm gonna stick my head up to his ass. And I'm not even sure if Jorma Sairanen is responsible for this. Guess I just want to stick my head up to people's asses :)
Lack of sunshine getting to you? :p

Does this mean Janneppi, Jonkka, DonJippo, Tomi, A.F.F. and Woodeye are each going to put in 2 euros each and watch it at say DonJippo's house? :p

[Daniel]

I'm going to look for Jorma Sairanen and when I find him, I'm gonna stick my head up to his ass. And I'm not even sure if Jorma Sairanen is responsible for this. Guess I just want to stick my head up to people's asses :)
Lack of sunshine getting to you? :p

Does this mean Janneppi, Jonkka, DonJippo, Tomi, A.F.F. and Woodeye are each going to put in 2 euros each and watch it at say DonJippo's house? :p

[janneppi]

Only to see the bikini chicks. :D

[Buzz Lightyear]

Well you get a package of four channels including the one that airs both F1 and WRC for 10€ per month so the prize ain't that bad.

If 500.000 Finns said the same thing.... the TV company has just made €60.000.000 euros in one year!!!!! That could run 30 WRC cars for one year... :)

[Tomi]

That'll be a difficult comparison to make 'cause Heikki isn't involved in drinking contests and karaoke tournaments? :eek:

Well, there is always hope :)

[DonJippo]

So it's 10 Eur for the whole package, or for one channel, when i tried to find info few weeks back, nothing definate was printed.

The max channel has adverts with women in bikini's, so it's not all bad. ;)

10€ for whole package. And MAX has also women without bikini's ;)

[A.F.F.]

Does this mean Janneppi, Jonkka, DonJippo, Tomi, A.F.F. and Woodeye are each going to put in 2 euros each and watch it at say DonJippo's house? :p

That is one excellent suggestion :up: DJ is about to move in bigger house and his wife makes one helluva blueberry pie. I'm in :wave: When can I bring my stuff Don ? :angel:

[A.F.F.]

Only to see the bikini chicks. :D

Or, you can come to my place. I got channels with women WITHOUT bikinis :D

[DonJippo]

When can I bring my stuff Don ? :angel:

Even today if you want as long as you promise to bring your lovely wife with you ;)

[Tomi]

Even today if you want as long as you promise to bring your lovely wife with you ;)

better just to bring the wife, Jani could go to the house and work with that, its not long until monte anymore. :)

[Simmi]

Hopefully there will be more 'eye in the sky' action next year to counter a lack of tv coverage.

[jiipee64]

Actually Eurosport bought one of our DigiTV licences.
Our local newspaper "Keskisuomalainen" wrote that the new channel should be free...
So???

[A.F.F.]

That is what interest me too. I don't have a digibox yet since I live in cable household. There may be a chance that I'll move and I guess to a house without cable. SO, when I eventually buy a digibox, is Eurosport going to include in the "free" channels or do you need a paycard for it ? And is it going to be in a channel package?

Because then MTV3 MAX would be useless, unless they have very good WRC package.

[DonJippo]

Actually Eurosport bought one of our DigiTV licences.
Our local newspaper "Keskisuomalainen" wrote that the new channel should be free...
So???

Send this link to "Keskisuomalainen" http://www.digitv.fi/sivu.asp?path=1;699;8663 all new channels, including Eurosport, will be pay-to-view...

[JAM]

All of you think that is positive to the WRC visibility be in a cable pay channel in a country like Finland?

[DonJippo]

All of you think that is positive to the WRC visibility be in a cable pay channel in a country like Finland?

Like I wrote in first post main feed will be on pay-TV but there is going to be daily reviews also on "free" TV, allthough currently no-one knows what that means, 5 min, 15min or 60min reviews...

And to be precise there is no such a thing in Finland as free TV, every household having a TV has to pay annual fee to be allowed to watch TV at home...

[Lousada]

Will they use the same footage as Eurosport? Because the proposed schedule looks like that what Eurosport has been doing?

[Tomi]

Will they use the same footage as Eurosport? Because the proposed schedule looks like that what Eurosport has been doing?

Partly i guess, but also own material, driver interviews etc., also i think somekind of pre.event, studio stuff, if the format is like the F1 thing.

[RS]

And to be precise there is no such a thing in Finland as free TV, every household having a TV has to pay annual fee to be allowed to watch TV at home...

Same in the UK, and then we have to pay extra on top to get the satellite channels.

Looks like we're losing the terrestrial TV coverage in the UK too according to this week's Motorsport News: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=5823

I didn't bother watching the ITV coverage recently anyway, because it was too late in the day and just the same as Eurosport.

[jonkka]

Does this mean Janneppi, Jonkka, DonJippo, Tomi, A.F.F. and Woodeye are each going to put in 2 euros each and watch it at say DonJippo's house? :p

Count me out, MTV3 is not getting a cent out of me, crappy channel that it is. Depending on what sort of their free coverage is, it'll be either that, Eurosport or SVT but not pay-TV for me.

[janneppi]

I can see bars getting new customers when people who haven't bought the right stuff but want to view F1 or Rally broadcast.

[Simmi]

No surprise at all that ITV will probably drop the WRC. Like people have said it was exactly the same as the Eurosport coverage anyway.

[Daniel]

Count me out, MTV3 is not getting a cent out of me, crappy channel that it is. Depending on what sort of their free coverage is, it'll be either that, Eurosport or SVT but not pay-TV for me.
Perhaps you should go just for DJ's wife's blueberry pie? :p

[jonkka]

Perhaps you should go just for DJ's wife's blueberry pie? :p

That pie, too. Yesh, phlease... :eek:

[miksu]

at the moment what we were scared about proves to be for nothing. the WRC coverage will be bigger than what i remember ever, at least in years! Everyday at least 30 mins coverage what has happened, saturday mornings short look at the standings at the time, and also programme from the "superspecial" -stage

all "free" that is

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/

[A.F.F.]

Minus commercials.

[miksu]

Minus commercials.

yeah...i must admit i didnt think about that at all.

[DonJippo]

at the moment what we were scared about proves to be for nothing. the WRC coverage will be bigger than what i remember ever, at least in years!

And with pay-TV it's even better and no commercials :D

[Tomi]

Sounds like a really good consept, really waiting for the analysis, the studioguests will be guys with quite much knowledge about the sport.

[A.F.F.]

I looked closely what more will MTV3 Max offer to a rallyfan and I have decided not to take it. With 10€/month there won't be but few 15 minutes updates and studio guests plus a preview before the rally. I won't follow F1 so it's going to be a waste of money for me.

Having Eurosport after I have moved to new apartment might have an influence to my decision :D

[A.F.F.]

I looked closely what more will MTV3 Max offer to a rallyfan and I have decided not to take it. With 10€/month there won't be but few 15 minutes updates and studio guests plus a preview before the rally. I won't follow F1 so it's going to be a waste of money for me.

Having Eurosport after I have moved to new apartment might have an influence to my decision :D


Oh crap. Turns out there are two households in the capital area without Eurosport and I'm moving from to another :dozey:

Seem like I have to eat my words and look more closely that MTV3's offer again.

[A.F.F.]

Having seen two rally specials by MTV3, I'm hugely disappointed. :down: Almost no footage at all from the stages. Special full of rally related stories with commercials. Today no mention of Stohl, and basicly no other but Loeb, Sordo and Finns.

YLE usually followed other driver too. I just hate the new consept but that's all I have now. :( My rally hobby has faced a real downer now.

[AndySpeed]

Same in the UK, and then we have to pay extra on top to get the satellite channels.

Looks like we're losing the terrestrial TV coverage in the UK too according to this week's Motorsport News: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=5823

I didn't bother watching the ITV coverage recently anyway, because it was too late in the day and just the same as Eurosport.

So, is ITV showing the rally in any way, shape or form? Because looking through the TV times, it seems that it's not being broadcast at all in the UK. :(

[RS]

So, is ITV showing the rally in any way, shape or form? Because looking through the TV times, it seems that it's not being broadcast at all in the UK. :(

It's on ITV4 at 6pm tomorrow (Sunday)

[janneppi]

Having seen two rally specials by MTV3, I'm hugely disappointed. :down: Almost no footage at all from the stages. Special full of rally related stories with commercials. Today no mention of Stohl, and basicly no other but Loeb, Sordo and Finns.

YLE usually followed other drivers too. I just hate the new consept but that's all I have now. :( My rally hobby has faced a real downer now.
I too felt the "free" specials were complete rubbish, amateurish commentary, only few seconds of footage.
I have a feeling they put more effort on the "saatanan verenimijät" side :)

[cali]

I too felt the "free" specials were complete rubbish, amateurish commentary, only few seconds of footage.
I have a feeling they put more effort on the "saatanan verenimijät" side :)
100% agree with you. I felt exactly the same. It's like watching Eurosportnews little bit longer. No interviews at the SS finish, very few onboard footage, there was more then 5 drivers driving at good pace. Kopecky did perform excellent throughout the weekend, but we saw him just a few seconds in that programme. Pity! I don't know if it's the fault of the company that provides footage or MTV3, but the level has gone a way down.

[DonJippo]

I too felt the "free" specials were complete rubbish, amateurish commentary, only few seconds of footage.
I have a feeling they put more effort on the "saatanan verenimijät" side :)

Having seen both MTV3 & MAX and Eurosport coverage it looks like MTV3 uses pretty much all the footage there is as available...compared to Eurosport that is...

[A.F.F.]

Then the footage is TOTAL ****E this year :mad:

This is absolutely outrageus. I watched all the MTV3's free rally specials. I didn't see but few minutes of footage from actual stages. In those the commentary was below standard. No footage nor any commentary of drivers in lower positions. Wrong stagettimes and drivers.

How about Tomi Tuominen and the studio guests ? I don't frigging get it. With all respect to former Finnish rallydrivers and co-drivers, I'm not interested to hear what they have to say about the poor footage they show. I want to see the ****ing footage. If they want to build up a studio and invite guest commentators, they should do so in another forum which would suit fine to their blood-sucking MAX channel.

Now, all I could see was Marcus before the stage and after it. In the middle between I saw a second flash of his car and a result page from the stage. Then we went back to the studio where Tomi Tuominen ask something remotely connected to this tyear's actual rally to which the guest would answer... right after these commercials.

And.. where is that hour long special footage which used to come from YLE tuesday nights?? Where is it ?? Oh, it's on MAX novadays.

Now if that is like it used to be in YLE, I'm willing to get MAX because in my opinion that is the only decent rally footage.

But now I hear that the Eurosport coverage wasn't any different. :eek:

WTF ???

[DonJippo]

But now I hear that the Eurosport coverage wasn't any different.???

They show what they get...blame ISC or what ever was the name of the new producing company ISC made deal with for this year...

[A.F.F.]

They show what they get...blame ISC or what ever was the name of the new producing company ISC made deal with for this year...

We're doomed :down:

[A.F.F.]

Was is a German company who produce the new rally footage for ISC ?? Seppo Rädyn sanoin, Saksa on paska maa.

[cali]

Was is a German company who produce the new rally footage for ISC ?? Seppo Rädyn sanoin, Saksa on paska maa.
:laugh:

I would also like to see more footage and less blabbering. Also the footage was very poor, i could see more crowd than cars. Last year it was soooooooooo much better. Haven't seen Eurosport coverage yet but i hoped iyt would be better, but if you guys say that MTV3 was better then - Oh My Dear Lord were doomed and stuck forever to see horrible footage from rallys.
But positive side was the Monaco SSS, which IMO was really entertaining and fun to see, even if some guys were just cruising or having fun only. It would've been even better when they would ran only 1 car at the time IMO.

[Brother John]

I was happy with te SVT footage here in Sweden! They use the same footage as Eurosport but showed more cars!!! Another positive point is, It was 50min without advertisement! :up:

[RS]

:laugh:

It would've been even better when they would ran only 1 car at the time IMO.

Yes, as they weren't actually together on the track it would have been better one at a time, and the whole circuit, maybe next year :)

I saw the Eurosport coverage and it doesn't sound as bad as the Finnish stuff, but the trend towards this in Finland, and a move off terrestrial TV in the UK is worrying, not only for the fans but for the manufacturers too.

We were told about this amazing new deal with ISC/Sportfive last year, but now the coverage seems worse than ever.

[jiipee64]

Last year I used to look YLE and then put Eurosport on tape.
Now I have only MTV3 (both)
And it was very poor...
I don't want to see 2 reporters interviewing each other...
The less I see reporters the better...
I wan't cars and some interviews...

[miksu]

I was happy with te SVT footage here in Sweden! They use the same footage as Eurosport but showed more cars!!! Another positive point is, It was 50min without advertisement! :up:

You lucky *******s!! Somehow you always come out as a winner in almost every situation...

[DonJippo]

I was happy with te SVT footage here in Sweden! They use the same footage as Eurosport but showed more cars!!! Another positive point is, It was 50min without advertisement! :up:

Sounds like the Sunday night review on MAX.

[A.F.F.]

How was it DJ ??

I just sent s not so little feedback for MTV3. :devil: If I get an answer, I'll post it on here :D