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donKey jote

3rd June 2008, 21:33

oily oaf

4th June 2008, 06:52

Oily you old git you were let out of the basement ? :eek:
Been missing you (r missus) :wave:

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_166.gif

p.s.: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/av/shipping_forecast.ram

Dont try to pretend that you've been a complete stranger all these long months Donks

Do you think I'm a complete numpty? Do you honestly believe that I haven't spotted those tell tale hoof prints on the lawn and witnessed for myself the half chewed carrots on my wife's bedroom table?

Christ you must think I was born yesterday matey (fume)

PS Great to see you again my friend :D

pino

4th June 2008, 06:58

Hahahaha I had to come back to find out your opinion on the appointment of The Special One as new boss of Inter Pino .

It was just as I expected ;)

PS I hope you're well old friend :D

I've just watched Mourinho first Press conference in Italian and his first words were " I know I am a great coach " so nothing new about him :p : Anyway I am fine thanks and very excited about Euro 2008 eventhough Italy lost the great Cannavaro. You are going to post in that thread ? ;)

oily oaf

4th June 2008, 07:24

I've just watched Mourinho first Press conference in Italian and his first words were " I know I am a great coach " so nothing new about him :p : Anyway I am fine thanks and very excited about Euro 2008 eventhough Italy lost the great Cannavaro. You are going to post in that thread ? ;)

Hahahaha I cant say I share your eagerness for Euro 2008 old friend.
Maybe if The Special One had taken the England job I might be looking forward to it with a bit more enthusiasm Hahahaha

I will of course be cheering fro the mighty Azzuri......and Portugal of course.

I will be glad to post in that thread as soon as I recieve your cheque for five pounds my good friend ;)

Storm

4th June 2008, 07:30

Mourinho is fun though...have to accept.

welcome back oily :cool:
and Donkey too!

oily oaf

4th June 2008, 07:36

Mourinho is fun though...have to accept.

welcome back oily :cool:
and Donkey too!

Not only is he fun Stormy but he's a highly intelligent fella too!
It's no mean feat to learn Italiano in a month :eek:

I mean look at Pino, he's been chatting to us English for years and he still hasn't quite got the hang of it :p

MrJan

17th June 2008, 16:44

Bleddy hell, Oily makes a rare appearance (testimonial I think) and every bugger scarpers :D

Come on then, it's not all about the Euros, whose been doing what in the transfer window? Exeter have realeased a few, some of whom went straight to local team Torquay. Got in quite a few decent conference players that were out of contract and just strengthened the squad in general.

My personal favourite signing is Manny Panther from York, a strong central midfielder. Mind you the only reason I like him is because of the chant "He's tall, he's quick, his name's a porno flick, Emmanuel, Emmanuel" :D

UTC :up:

Storm

18th June 2008, 10:57

All the major transfers will happen after the Euros ;)
And It IS all about the Euros except for the English I guess :p :

Barcelona have already bought Dani Alves (Sevilla), Gerard Pique (Man U) and Seydou Keita (Sevilla) to firm up the defense and midfield.

Zambrotta has gone to Milan and pretty sure Deco is on his way to Inter/Chelsea, Eto'o will be going to Inter/Milan and who knows where Ronaldinho is going to be....

Berbatov likely to be going to Barca but maybe not since Et'o declined to go to Spurs. Mario Gomez is another name mentioned but he better show he is a good striker....not liking what I am seeing in Euro 08 :)

pino

18th June 2008, 11:54

Two Liverpool players are om their way to Italy : Xabi Alonso to Juventus, Arne Riise to Roma. The "market" in Italy so far :

http://www.sportmediaset.it/mercato/articoli/11314/tabella+acquisti+estate+serieA

ps: Allenatore = Coach, Arrivi = Arrives, Partenze = Exit...

Iain

18th June 2008, 12:56

My personal favourite signing is Manny Panther from York, a strong central midfielder. Mind you the only reason I like him is because of the chant "He's tall, he's quick, his name's a porno flick, Emmanuel, Emmanuel" :D

He doesn't have a typical Glaswegian name does he? :D

SEATFreak

21st June 2008, 12:08

Sunderland's former stopper and goal-keeping coach Tim Carter has been found dead in Manchester.

Tim played 50 games for the Black Cats with Tony Norman in the early 90's and had just been appointed academy's goalkeeping coach after being the first teams coach till the arrival of ex-Manchester United keeper Raimond van der Gouw in 2007 and had coaches the Estonian national side on a part time basis. Something that may or may not have aided in the development of Mart "Poominator" Poom as a top keeper for SAFC until his departure to Arsenal where he was recently sold to Watford.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7467056.stm

My condolences as a Black Cats fan are with his family, Sunderland AFC and his colleagues at the Academy of Light where he worked in Sunderland AFC at this tragic time.

RIP Tim Carter. :(

MrJan

21st June 2008, 15:36

His body was discovered in bushes and it's not suspicious?

RIP.

SEATFreak

22nd June 2008, 10:52

His body was discovered in bushes and it's not suspicious?

RIP.

No it isn't suspicious.

Though, according to Ceefax news (or was it Teletext) the rozzers think he hanged himself (almost like Mark Speight all over again). Though as far as I know nothing bad was happening in his life. So I am worried as to what he wasn't telling.

I mean he had just been made the academy's goalkeeping coach. OK it isn't the first team but the academy boys are a credit to the club. They are excellent. The semifinal of the FA Youth Cup and I think they won the league too. I wasn't a bad step-down at all so that relocation isn't to blame.

WelshLegend

26th June 2008, 11:51

Hi everyone, I haven't posted on here for a while. :eek:

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas to as why the french natioal squad have been on a steady declie ever since winning the World Cup way back in 1998.

I have a few ideas to as why this happened, i.e players retiring, and also more recently old players, i.e. Thuram and Makelele continuing to play even though they are past thier sell-by-date during Euro 2008.
Hopefully, by posting on here i could possibly get a few more ideas and include them in my 6000 word essay i have to write about it :( .

I would appreciate any feedback in either french or english :) :) :)

Thanks a bunch

WelshLegend

gadjo_dilo

26th June 2008, 12:16

veeten

26th June 2008, 12:24

I think that the present team should've been sponsored by Electrolux Vacuums... ;) :p :

WelshLegend

26th June 2008, 12:28

I don't know if we can talk about a decline since 1998. Weren't they playing the final of World Cup in 2006?

I never liked french football except for the golden generation who played at World Cup 1982 in Spain: Platini, Tigana, Tresor, Giresse, Six, Rocheteau, Bossis..... These guys knew how to play.

But werent they knocked out in Euro 2000 and then again in Euro 2004 by teams on paper, France should have beaten easily.

I beliveve that ever since winning the World Cup in 1998 they have been in a slow decline, either because key players retiring and not bringing enough new blood in? I believe they managed to get to the World Cup Final in 2006 due to there sheer experience and ability to keep calm under extreme pressure and not shher skill alone.

gadjo_dilo

26th June 2008, 13:02

But werent they knocked out in Euro 2000 and then again in Euro 2004 by teams on paper, France should have beaten easily. .
As long as the ball is round papers and football will be incompatible. Look at Netherlands who qualified at this edition with the least number of goals from all teams ( not to mention they lost a match against Belarus ) and now they scored loads of goals.
Who credited Turkey and Russia ( who was lucky to qualify at Euro ) a month ago?
I don't know if there is a team who can dominate football for years. It's still a game and hazard have a role to play....
It's not everytime that the team who plays better has the chance to win.

I thought that the problem may be in your national championship: not too many money involved or too many foreigners. But then I think again of Russia and its base of selection.....

SOD

27th June 2008, 01:49

one could say that French football was in decline since 1984 when they won the European championships. They only managed to reach the WC semi-final in 1986, failed to qualify for another tournament until 1992. The cycle comes and goes.

Rollo

27th June 2008, 03:16

French football is suffering the same echoes as England experienced post 1966. In both cases, the world's "best nation" won on home some and due to a combination of coaching staff and the coming together of a "golden generation" they were able to win the World Cup and subsequently a Euro tournament.

Fundamentally the FFF suffers from the same problem that England does as do clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea. They've been the best at one and will throw zillions of moneys at the problem and never realise that it it's an underlying problem. Basically it requires a core of close knit staff, something which Man Utd has had for a long time as has the DFB.

Ironically, Brazil's footballing prowess is not built from its wealth but the fact that for some kids in the favellas, it's their only way out, so they "train" practically every other day.

Drew

27th June 2008, 20:33

The French themselves (or the ones I've talked to) tell me that they just need to get rid of Domenech...

Storm

2nd July 2008, 11:19

some transfer news...
Deco is now a Chelsea player...Barca sold him for 10m Euros, and now wait for offers for Ronaldinho and Etoo...I still believe they should not sell off Etoo unless then can get somebody like David Villa or Guiza. (proven la liga scorers) but they seem to be going for Adebayor who is a bit overhyped and please don't make it an Arsenal attack at Camp Nou!!!!
Daniel Alves also joins from Sevilla now that Zambrotta & Thuram are gone..
Another rumour is Shevchenko on loan to Barca...could be possible now that they have business open with Chelsea..maybe Ronaldinho will tempt them..

Lampard might be moving to join his friend Mourinho at Inter...and looks like C Ronaldo might still be going to Madrid, atleast Marca thinks they have a deal.

Wonder who the Brits will hype up next if their golden boy leaves...

MrJan

2nd July 2008, 14:07

44 days and 45 minutes until I get to watch my first league game of the season :disturb: That's 1056 hours and 45 minutes, or 63405 minutes (I think ;) )

Thank the lord that it's only 14 days, 5 hours and 30 minutes until the first pre-season friendly.

jso1985

7th July 2008, 03:12

YES YES YES!!! :bounce: Universitario, 2008 Apertura Tournament winner

We won the 2nd division in 2005 and in only 3 years today we won the 1st division being the first team from this town to ever do so, and also the smallest gap between winning the 2nd division and the 1st one

2009 Libertadores cup here we come :beer:

Storm

7th July 2008, 06:31

Congrats to your team jso :)

Everyone else seems to be quiet ...no football to watch (been a week)

MrJan

7th July 2008, 10:37

My team play their first pre-season friendly on Friday but I can't go because I'm in France :bigcry:

It's almost exactly 225 hours until my first pre-season game, Exeter v Portsmouth :disturb:

:up: Congrats JSO, I have noe idea what any of that meant but it sounds impressive :laugh:

jso1985

9th July 2008, 00:54

mmm let's see :p

apertura tournament = opening tournament, ie first of the two tournaments the 2008 season is composed

1st division = Premier league, still we can have silly lower leagues names :p , the 2nd and 3rd tier division are called 1st division A and B :disturb:

Libertadores cup = South America's champions league

it's just footie :laugh:

stevie_gerrard

14th July 2008, 00:20

But werent they knocked out in Euro 2000 and then again in Euro 2004 by teams on paper, France should have beaten easily.

I beliveve that ever since winning the World Cup in 1998 they have been in a slow decline, either because key players retiring and not bringing enough new blood in? I believe they managed to get to the World Cup Final in 2006 due to there sheer experience and ability to keep calm under extreme pressure and not shher skill alone.

Well they didnt actually get knocked out of euro 2000...... because they won the thing :p : It was that rather exciting finish against Italy, Wiltord equaliser last minute, Trezuguet winner in extra time, the golden goal as it was known, Holding both the european championship and the world cup at the same time, was a golden time in french football.

however, i feel that this was rather fortunate, and possibly came at the wrong time for the national side. There are a number of things that could be the decline for the national side, things such as the french ligue 1. I know there are a lot of french players like Wiltord, Henry, Vieria, Pires, Thuram, Makelele, etc who played in the big leagues like the premiership and la liga. The thing is, the French league isnt really known for its high quality of football. I believe i am right in saying that Lyon practicuarly dominate the french league, and have been for a few years now. Theres no competition for them, its the same team winning the league all the time, the likes of Marseille, PSG, Auxerre either put up a challenge at the start of the season and then fade away during the mid part, or dont put up a challenge at all and end up closer to relegation than where they should be at the top. PSG are a brilliant example of that, great history, but in the last couple of years have really struggled under the lieks of Le Guen to stay in the top flight. I feel that the big french players of the next generation do need to move elsewhere to the big clubs in order to experience the high level of football they need to to become a great player, which is why im rather glad nasri recently moved to arsenal because i feel if theres anywhere hes going to become a great player, it is under the brilliant coaching of arsene Wenger. But the problem is, a lot of players rightly stay loyal to their clubs, but are playing in a competition which can sometimes be below the standard they need to be playing at. I honestly think the eridevisie (Dutch league) is more competitive than the french one. Also, you may not be guaranteed great french players in the future, who are going to move to bigger clubs, so are going to have to develop their talent in the french league, and that is difficult for them, because the standard in a major competition is so much higher than a league game. You dont see many french teams challenging in the big tournaments like the champions league or the UEFA cup, Lyon are the only one i can think of who have got close. Its that high level of competition rising stars of the future need to be able to deal with, and basically the clubs dont have the foundations to give them that, which delays their development in their club surroundings, and delays their potential on the international scene, making a weakened french side coming up in the next generation.

But its not just the development of players that needs to be focused on, its the loss of world class players as well. I mean, how are France meant to replace someone of the fantastic stature and skill of zinedine Zidane? In both France 98 and Euro 2000, he played a key part in winning both tournaments, and showed flashes of brilliance at germany 2006. Ok, he was a bit of a jerk in the final to go headbutt matterazi, whatever his reasons, but there was no doubting he was one of the great players of all time. There are only 2 or 3 players of Zidanes quality that may come to an international side in a lifetime, if that. When you lose a player to retirement of that quality, your side is bound to feel the effects. Obviously, they have lost other players like Thuram and Vieria at critical times, but when you have a team of the quality of World cup 98 and euro 2000, its always difficult to maintain that high standard. All international sides have their problems, even Brazil, no matter how many times theyve won the world cup, they dont very often win Copa America, or qualify as the best country from South america, its how they perform in the tournaments, their setup is immense in major tournaments, and they are always well prepared.

One final thought for you, so France havent done that well recently, but its not very long since we were talking about the demise of Total football, which for those who dont know what it is, Dutch football. It was 1988 the last time Dutch Football had something to shout about, and 1998 the last time they performed of note in a major tournament. A lot of tabloids focused on how they just made Euro 2008, being beaten even by romania, and how dutch football was boring and wasnt as brilliant anymore. Even the great Marco Van Basten said that. But just look at how they responded this summer, Dominant victories 3-0 against Italy, and 4-1 against France. The skill, the brilliance, the flowing football, the quality goals. Ok so they didnt win it, but they showed that they had the quality to go on and win this tournament, and as soon as they know how to perform in every game like that, they will win a major tournament again. and im confident they will do it again, because i see the potential in the side. Now it may not be obvious that france are heading that way, but there will be another golden generation that will come through eventually, Its been 44 years since spain won anything before Euro 2008, and at this World Cup 2010, it will be 44 years since england won anything (im hoping its an omen :p : ) But honestly i believe that this may not be the demise of French International Football, but preparation for the next generation to dominate as in 1998 and 2000. It could be 10 years, it could be 50 years, but there is no doubt that France will be a major force again in football.

Hopefully that will give you something to think about, but im sure there are many people who will have conflicting views about it, Im not really a writer at all, but i do liek to think i know a bit about football. I suggest you do some research into it as well if you've got 6000 words to write about it :) good luck :)

Storm

16th July 2008, 08:12

Ronaldinho has been signed by Milan.
Finally this era of Barcelona is over....Now that Eto'o will also leave it is leaving me a bit sad as these 2 guys were the catalysts to the turn around in fortunes in 2004-5 season.

2 La Ligas, 1 Champions League..thank you Ronaldinho for your amazing skill!

I just hope Guardiola isn't as stupid as to buy Adebayor now (heard he is offering Eto'o AND 20 million euros, if true its crazy)

He seems to have a lot of faith in Henry and Bojan Krkic with Messi in the floating role. I just wish they had signed a good striker since they are bent in selling Eto'o.

MrJan

16th July 2008, 12:42

Tonight is the first game I'll since my team won at Wembley on May 18th :bounce:

pino

16th July 2008, 15:39

Storm mate, is about time you support another squad...how about Juve ? :p :

Simmi

16th July 2008, 18:43

Anyone else getting stuck into all these meaningless friendlies on TV this month? I'm just watching Liverpool drawing against a bunch of Swiss chancers. I still dont rate Liverpool's chances in the title race. It seems to be the same story every season - they underachieve and Rafa feels he needs 4 or 5 players to challenge for the Prem. Same thing has happened for the past few years.

And Pino I look forward to Juventus coming to Old Trafford in a few weeks time. I will hopefully be there to see them get beaten.

MrJan

16th July 2008, 22:40

Never mind TV friendlies, I've just come back from my first of the season, watching Exeter get a 1-1 draw against FA Cup Winners and UEFA Cup team Portsmouth. First half Pompey even had a decent side out including (I think) Mendes, Campbell, James and Defoe. They managed to score a penalty (think it was deserved), although was poorly taken by Defoe.

Fairly even game but Defoe missed some sitters and really should have had a hat-trick. Second half was a weeker side but still had Primus, Nugent and Muntari that I'm aware of. Really even game and City scored a decent goal, Sir Rob Edwards walking it through the defence to finish coolly. Nice start to the season and has left me in high spirits, especially after the 40 minutes I got to see of new signing Marcus Stewart :up: :D

pino

24th July 2008, 10:40

Last night Juve played here in Copenhagen and I was offcourse in the Stadium, wearing my old Juve jersey with Vialli name on the back :D Juve won 2-1 against Brondby, and it was great to see my beloved Squad with both old and new players.Italian-Brazilian Amauri and Swedish young talent Ekdal surprised me more than anybody else. Can't wait for Serie A start :s mokin:

stevie_gerrard

24th July 2008, 12:20

Wolves are currently on a pre season tour of scotland (the funds are running low) :p :

A 1-0 win over dundee was a fair start, if not brilliant. The main man sylvain with a last minute winner. Next friendly was against Motherwell, which was a good test with the new season only a couple of weeks away. it finished 1-1, Sylvain scoring yet again. Im remaining positive about the season ahead but wary of the poor starts to seasons we normally have. Sylvain will be the key to our season.

tony_yeboah

30th July 2008, 14:05

here we are then, only 10 days away from the new season...COME ON LEEDS!!!!

Storm

31st July 2008, 06:47

Wolves are currently on a pre season tour of scotland (the funds are running low) :p :

Barcelona were in Scotland too, for their pre-season and hammered Hibernian and Dundee 6-0 and 5-1.
Yesterday they played Fiorentina and won 3-1.

its all like F1 testing though.

Bezza

4th August 2008, 16:30

here we are then, only 10 days away from the new season...COME ON LEEDS!!!!

Not a chance in hell of promotion, Tony. ;)

PNE are going to win the Championship this season with 30-goal Neil Mellor firing us there.

GridGirl

4th August 2008, 18:21

Seeing as Leeds are my second team I'll second you Tony. Go Leeds...marching on together... :p

MrJan

4th August 2008, 21:29

Second team, pah :p :

I may well shed a tear come 3 o'clock on Saturday. It's been a long journey but after 5 years of pain and suffering Exeter City will ruin out at Darlington with gold numbers on their backs and Football League badges on their sleeves. It'll seem crazy to most people but the prospect of a tough season at the base of League 2 makes me as happy as earning that 0-0 draw against Manure.

God knows that I'm going to miserable for a lot of this season but for the moment I'm enjoying the ride.

Up The City :up:

stevie_gerrard

6th August 2008, 16:35

Am i right in saying that UEFA Cup Finalists 2008 Rangers lost to FC Kaunas in qualfication for the champions league last night and are out of europe all together? :eek:

MrJan

6th August 2008, 17:14

Am i right in saying that UEFA Cup Finalists 2008 Rangers lost to FC Kaunas in qualfication for the champions league last night and are out of europe all together? :eek:

Yep!! :up: I tuned in to 5 Live last night (league 2 preview) and apparently they lost to FC Big Kahuna of that immense footballing nation, Lithuania. Seriously, who knew that Lithuania played much football, or that the UEFA Cup starts so early :p :

pino

7th August 2008, 13:02

And Pino I look forward to Juventus coming to Old Trafford in a few weeks time. I will hopefully be there to see them get beaten.

So did you enjoy the game? I watched on tv and I was satisfied with my Squad, except for the 3/4 goals missed by Del Piero and Camoranesi ;) I also liked all the Man U young players who played in the 2nd half :up:

Simmi

7th August 2008, 15:37

So did you enjoy the game? I watched on tv and I was satisfied with my Squad, except for the 3/4 goals missed by Del Piero and Camoranesi ;) I also liked all the Man U young players who played in the 2nd half :up:

It was a good test for both teams but it was a shame about the lack of goals. I think United missed the cutting edge of Rooney/Ronaldo/Nani etc. I expected a low scoring game because I think our teams have two of the best defences in Europe and it showed.

As you say Pino there are a few floppy haired youngsters in the United squad who catch the eye. The Brazilian Da Silva twins who play both full back positions look good prospects.

Best of luck for the coming season anyway Pino. I have a feeling we will meet again in the Champions League this year.

MrJan

7th August 2008, 17:15

As you say Pino there are a few floppy haired youngsters in the United squad who catch the eye. The Brazilian Da Silva twins who play both full back positions look good prospects.

United are quite good at having prospects who fail to turn into decent players. I can only think of O'Shea (off the top of my head) as a half decent player from the youth system in the last ten or so years (although the list of Scholes, Beckham, Nevilles etc was impressive). Personally I'd rate Tottenham's youf system more but they have a tendancy to sell on rather than keeping them in the team, as with your own Michael Carrick who was seriously overpriced at £18mil.

We on the other hand have a much better young player setup with amazing names like Moxey, Friend and Sercombe. Not to forget inspired imports like Harley and Taylor.

Only 2 days left :D

Simmi

7th August 2008, 18:01

Carrick was from the West Ham youth system. The players they brought through the ranks were truely exceptional - and they sold every single one of them. I also dont think Carrick looks too bad for the money after his two seasons with United.

I dont expect much from United youth players as they dont get games. The sides we've put out in Carling Cup games have showed we really have nothing outside of the first team.

pino

7th August 2008, 19:56

Best of luck for the coming season anyway Pino. I have a feeling we will meet again in the Champions League this year.

Good Luck too, hopefully we will meet again in Rome on 27th May :p : btw happy about Cristiano decision to stay ? :s

Simmi

8th August 2008, 13:26

Good Luck too, hopefully we will meet again in Rome on 27th May :p : btw happy about Cristiano decision to stay ? :s

Yeah I think United fans have to be when you look at last season. I'm under no illusions we wouldn't have won a thing without Ronaldo last season.

Obviously he's been disrespectful off the pitch and needs to score a few goals to make peace with the fans. If he plays half as well as last year he is still worth holding on to. He wont get close to the 42 he scored last season.

MrJan

9th August 2008, 16:57

Well the final whistle has just blown on Exeter's first league game since May 3rd 2003 and it was a respectable 1-1 draw against Darlington. Went 1-0 down on 40 minutes through a penalty (radio commentary believed it was justified), but a battling 2nd half performance saw us pull one back and it sounded like Exeter were the better side for much of the 2nd half.

NIce to be back in the league, especially with a point, but things now turn to the Carling Cup and a tricky tie at home against Southampton on Tuesday evening :up:

Storm

14th August 2008, 07:04

Barcelona 4-0 Wisla Krakow
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080813/noticia_53520314141.html

So CL group stage is in the bag and a good start to competitive matches for this season, plus the great news that Pep Guardiola finally came to his senses and cleared that Eto'o will stay this year.

Immediately the guy scored 2 goals last night, I think he is going to be really fired up this season with Henry too wanting to prove a point.

I have not liked the new signings much (I think Hleb is over-rated, Keita is decent) and they messed up with Arshavin and Silva who would have been great. Alves could be the only really good signing for Barca.

Hoping for a good season though :)

gadjo_dilo

14th August 2008, 08:29

Galatasaray- Steaua Bucharest 2- 2. I was impressed to see how the entire Ali Sami Yen Stadium welcomed Hagi like a king. They all stand up and shouted his name for minutes.

Storm

14th August 2008, 10:25

Hagi was a genius so no wonder :cool:
Steaua lead 2-0 and then lost the lead though , correct?

Fenerbahce had a 2-2 draw too! so both Turkish teams have a shot as do Bucharest of course.

Liverpool 0-0 Liege :\
Of course they will go through at home with that uncanny knack of Benitez but this doesn't look good..

Schalke 1-0 Atletico Madrid....hmm

Simmi

14th August 2008, 16:45

Liverpool were lucky last night not to have been beaten! I'm sure like Storm says they will be fine but both English teams looked a bit shaky last night and weak in midfield areas.

pino

15th August 2008, 12:29

Great performance for the "new" Juve, 4-0 with a spectaculary goal by Del Piero offcourse :p :

ps :Storm why you didn't mention that :hmph: ;)

GridGirl

15th August 2008, 12:59

Theres less than 24 hours to go now. Come on you Baggies! :bounce: Boing Boing! :bounce:

angie1313

15th August 2008, 17:32

eh....

SEATFreak

16th August 2008, 12:07

eh....

GridGirl was saing WBA have a habit of being a bit of a yo-yo side. :D

I think my beloved side, SAFC, will do very well indeed. We have strengthened, I think the form of the midfield will be very important as we have done so (strenghened) there the greatest, and I think the names we have brough in will make us more competitive where we weren't last season.

I think at worst 12th or 13th for us.

Hazell B

16th August 2008, 18:08

If anyone's interested, York City's anthrax scare yesterday turned out to be powdered-up aspirin or similar, sent in a package to the ex boss Doug Craig (didn't he leave about four years ago? :mark: ) by some as yet unknown loony.

Today their security guy, who I spent this morning with at an auction, is expecting a bomb scare during the match.

It's pathetic - some sad person wasted thousands of police pounds and everyone's time. However, better a small club that one of the big ones.

MrJan

17th August 2008, 18:22

However, better a small club that one of the big ones.

Wrong. Big clubs can afford to have things like this happen, small clubs need every bit of income possible. The scare probably means a larger police prescence which will be paid for by the club. Also there will probably be a drop in attendance which will harm income even more.
As long as it's only a scare then it'll have less effect on a Man United or Chelsea. Football for most teams in the UK is a hand to mouth existence and a lot of clubs are struggling (see Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton in league 2).

As the supporter of a team who is only in existence through bloody mindedness, hard work and a bit of luck (playing Man U in the FA Cup saved Exeter) I fully sympathise with teams that are in the financial doldrums and I don't think that numpties posting Asprin can help too much :down:

On the bright side, Exeter played very well yesterday and I feel confident about the season ahead, even if the scoreline doesn't show it :mark:

Rollo

18th August 2008, 00:51

Blackpool managed to scrape a 1-1 draw with the Canaries and barely deserved to get even that.

Burgess nailed a penalty against the run of play and Norwich equalised in short succession and then spent the last half hour walking through the defences like they weren't there. There must have been a forcefield around the goals.

Also, can someone explain this:
Why is it that in Oz, we can get the Premier League and the Championship on cable telly as well as the Conference and the Conference North and South (on Setanta)? In terms of the football league ladder, that's tiers 1 & 2 - 5 & 6 but not 3 or 4.
This makes little to no sense.

pino

25th August 2008, 09:20

Shevchenko is back to Milan :s

Last night in the italian super Cup final, Inter defeated Roma 8-7 after penalties and a very exciting match finshed 2-2 after 90 min :up: Serie A tournement this year is going to be amazing....can't wait :D

pino

25th August 2008, 09:25

One more thing, on a couple of spanish web.sites, I've read that Real Madrid are mad at Robinho, and are call him a mercenary for asking to be sold to Chelsea :eek: :laugh: No it's not a joke :p :

Storm

26th August 2008, 13:04

Irony eh ;)
on Marca today, Real M have offered 52m euros to Valencia for Villa :|

pino

26th August 2008, 13:10

Talking about mercenary...Rivaldo's on his way to an Uzbekistan squad for 40 mill $ :eek: :crazy:

Simmi

26th August 2008, 13:17

Talking about mercenary...Rivaldo's on his way to an Uzbekistan squad for 40 mill $ :eek: :crazy:

If they are stupid enough to offer the money then why not. Was it the same country that Eto'o went and had talks with who were also offering him silly money recently?

If I was in the twilight of my career and was offered millions to go and play somewhere for a year or two I'd be there like a shot.

In other news I get back from Leeds Festival and find Mikael Silvestre has been sold to Arsenal! How wierd is that I can't get my head around that one.

pino

26th August 2008, 14:36

Meanwhile in Premier League, it will cost Chelsea £70 mill :eek: another attempt to win the title ( 43 £ for sending Shevchenko and Wright-Philipps back to their original Club ) plus 27 £ for signing Robinho from Real Madrid...

SEATFreak

26th August 2008, 17:48

MrJan

26th August 2008, 20:35

Makes Roy Keanes £8m bid for Anton Ferdinand seem like pocket money.

Not half as much as our acquisition of Marcus Stewart on a free. I actually can't remember the last time that Exeter spent any money on transfer fees, we got where we are on a decent youth system and a shrewd manager spotting talent :up:

Storm

27th August 2008, 12:06

SFreak, Sunderland are putting together a much better squad this season though..

to calm pino, yeah yeah Juve made to to the CL group stage after a draw but Barcelona lost 0-1 against Wisla Krakow...anyways they won 4-1 agg.

GridGirl

27th August 2008, 13:08

Makes Roy Keanes £8m bid for Anton Ferdinand seem like pocket money.

£8m plus VAT at 17.5% is £9.4m. To me that is way to much to pay for Anton Ferdinand.

West Brom officially suck having not won either of their two league games and being knocked out of the league cup. Atleast Wolves went out of the cup too. :p

stevie_gerrard

27th August 2008, 18:50

£8m plus VAT at 17.5% is £9.4m. To me that is way to much to pay for Anton Ferdinand.

West Brom officially suck having not won either of their two league games and being knocked out of the league cup. Atleast Wolves went out of the cup too. :p

How horrible of you :p :

Yeh well we got the league to concentrate on this season ;) second place and a very unusual wonderful start to the season. Seriously, ive never known wolves start so well.

At least we are winning eh GridGirl? :p : Have to say though, you have been a little unlucky in the first two games, Arsenal away and only narrowly beaten, and Everton at home where you played well but didnt take your chances. You could do without a cup run like last season to concentrate on staying up so we can play you again next season :D

Storm

28th August 2008, 06:47

CL results (3rd round of qualifying)
All the usual suspects got to the group stage...
Atl Madrid 4-0 to overturn Schalke's 1-0 lead from leg1...They do have a great attack with Aguero & Forlan.
Arsenal won easily but Liverpool scraped through 1-0 in extra time!
Juve and Barca went through although they drew and lost respectively :s
Bucharest are in again after they won 3-2 aggr against Galatasaray but Fenerbahce did win so we have one Turkish team.

There are couple of new teams in CL group stage but I liked this name best!
Anorthosis Famagusta :cheese: sadly they beat ody's Oylmpiacos!
Sounds more like a metal band that club name...from Cyprus.

David Villa signed for 6 yrs with.....Valencia again :up:
So they did manage to keep Silva and Villa, hopefully will be a better season under the new coach too.

Madrid failed with another star player after Ronaldo, but looks like they got Santi Cazorla from Villarreal...He is a good player though.

pino

28th August 2008, 07:23

Teams in the draw for the Champions League group stages:

Pot one
MANCHESTER UNITED
CHELSEA
LIVERPOOL
Barcelona
ARSENAL
Lyon
Inter Milan
Real Madrid

Pot two
Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven
Villarreal
AS Roma
FC Porto
Werder Bremen
Sporting Lisbon
Juventus

Pot three
Marseille
Zenit St Petersburg
Steaua Bucharest
Panathinaikos
Bordeaux
CELTIC
Basel
Fenerbahce

Pot four
Shakhtar Donetsk
Fiorentina
Atletico Madrid
Dynamo Kiev
CFR Cluj
Aalborg
Anorthosis Famagusta
Bate Borisov

pino

28th August 2008, 07:30

CL results (3rd round of qualifying)

Juve and Barca went through although they drew and lost respectively :s

Madrid failed with another star player after Ronaldo, but looks like they got Santi Cazorla from Villarreal...He is a good player though.

You might not happy for Barca performance, but I am for Juve's :p : As for Cazorla, he's resigned for Villareal, so no Real Madrid for him ;)

Back to CL I welcome the danish Team of Aalborg, it could be great to travel there and watch my Juve :s mokin: My fave draw for Juve would be :

Liverpool
Juventus
Celtic
Aalborg

gadjo_dilo

28th August 2008, 07:32

I hope that my beloved Steaua will be in a group with Liverpool, Villareal and Bate Borisov

Storm

28th August 2008, 07:49

You might not happy for Barca performance, but I am for Juve's :p :

As for Cazorla, he's resigned for Villareal, so no Real Madrid for him ;)

did you miss that I posted abt Juve 2 times? just for you :p : :erm:

Ah yes Cazorla looked done yesterday but I read just now...now they want Joaquin from Valencia for the wing
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1158777.html

Storm

29th August 2008, 05:47

CL Draw done

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7584644.stm

Man U and Chelsea have easy ones, Liverpool have Atletico Madrid and PSV in their group while Arsenal has Porto, Kiev and Fenerbahce :)

Real M and Juventus in the same group!

Barcelona has avoided most of the strong unseeded teams and have Lisbon, Basel and Donetsk.

pino

29th August 2008, 06:22

easy draw for Juve although at the moment Real is a better and more experienced squad but a 2nd pos shouldn't be too difficult to get and qualify us to next round. Tough group for Fiorentina and especially for Liverpool :s can't wait to watch the 1st round :D

gadjo_dilo

29th August 2008, 07:57

Tough group for Fiorentina
Can't wait to see Mutu being booed on Ghencea Stadium.

pino

29th August 2008, 10:44

Can't wait to see Mutu being booed on Ghencea Stadium.

Why ? what's wrong with him :confused:

gadjo_dilo

29th August 2008, 11:08

Why ? what's wrong with him :confused:

1.Mutu's mission is to score. He'll be trying to score against a romanian team with fanatic fans.
2. The owner of Steaua claims that Mutu is still indebted to him with 75000 Euro
3. Mutu used to play for Dinamo ( Steaua's rival ).

Simmi

30th August 2008, 13:46

I would watch out for Zenit if I were you Pino! They are a very good team as Manchester United found out last night!

pino

30th August 2008, 14:22

I better edit my previous post and add the NOT an easy draw for Juve then ;) You're right Simmi, last night Zenit showed how good they are so, not only Juve but also Real Madrid must watch out. Time will tell and I still can't wait for 1st match :s mokin:

jso1985

30th August 2008, 19:29

There are couple of new teams in CL group stage but I liked this name best!
Anorthosis Famagusta :cheese: sadly they beat ody's Oylmpiacos!
Sounds more like a metal band that club name...from Cyprus.

actually sounds like an ugly rectus disease :p

Storm

1st September 2008, 06:10

javi :erm:

Bad start to La Liga last night for Barcelona...
watched the game as it was at a decent time for me (10.30pm) svs Numancia and they lost 0-1 :(
They had 70% possession but could not score...Henry got subbed as he was really ineffective but Bojan and Etoó both missed headers they should have scored and in injury time a Messi free kick hit the post!
weird tactics by Guardiola though....not much play was happening on left wing (Henry + Abidal) and Alves is supposed to be great on right but didnt show much either....Numancia just put 8 people in the middle of their half and Messi was just running into brick walls most of the time.

They need to change fast as other small teams will attempt the same stuff of not allowing they to play and just sit back.

It was almost like watching the semi-final of CL last year where they had so much of the ball but just could not score.

Real was 0-1 down at the Riazor when I slept but I read just now that they lost 1-2 once again at Deportivo :cheese:

pino

1st September 2008, 06:32

Atalanta-Siena 1-0

Cagliari-Lazio 1-4

Catania-Génova 1-0

Fiorentina-Juventus 1 -1

Chievo Verona-Reggina 2-1

Milan-Bologna 1-2

Roma-Nápoli 1-1

Sampdoria-Inter 1-1

Torino-Lecce 3-0

Udinese-Palermo 3-1

What an exciting match Fiorentina-Juve was, too bad for Juve that Fiorentina scored in the last min, we honestly deserved the win (Del Piero missed 2 easy score to close the match) Milan lost at home but had very bad luck, Ronaldinho played from the start and he was amazing :up: Milan needs to rebuild their midfield though.

Cool results in La Liga btw :p :

Storm

1st September 2008, 08:37

I did not update Serie A as I knew you would come along ;)
Also I did not find Juve result and I didn't want to make you mad by just posting about Milan loss and that Ronnie played well :p :

pino

1st September 2008, 13:42

I did not update Serie A as I knew you would come along ;)
Also I did not find Juve result and I didn't want to make you mad by just posting about Milan loss and that Ronnie played well :p :

Everyone in Italy are impressed by Ronaldinho performance against Bologna, and at Milan are not worried about that defeat. As for Juve we will fight for the "scudetto" no doubt about it :p :

Simmi

1st September 2008, 17:32

Crazy scenes on the last day of the transfer window. Abu Dhabi have come in at Man City and have started throwing some serious money about at players. It looks like they are going to hi-jack Man United's bid for Berbatov.

MrJan

1st September 2008, 22:42

Sorry Stevie_Gerrard but Wolves are now on my s***list. Just nipped in and nicked our young left back George Friend fo an 'undisclosed' fee. George has been showing real promise and while we all knew that he deserved to play at a higher level we didn't think he'd be off this soon. It's also a shame that he probably won't get that much first team football for a while.

He was instrumental in our strong second half of the season last year and has looked good so far this season. Quite good at getting forward and also a solid defender (at our level anyway). He'll look crap in a CCC team for a while I'd have thought but I reckon he's destined for great things.

pino

2nd September 2008, 06:48

Last "market" day :

Inter has signed Quaresma from Porto :up:
Genoa bought it back striker Milito from Saragozza for 8 € only :eek:
Berbatov finally to Man U and believe it or not, Robinho to Man City :crazy:

Storm

2nd September 2008, 07:14

Simmi, Berbatov is safely with Man U now but yes Abu Dhabi petro-dollars did make a lot of noise and Robinho was stolen from under Chelsea's nose for 42m Euros :eek:

Its a lot of money for a player who doesn't do that much IMO...A few step-overs aren't worth it...well I have the same opinion about CR7 who will surely be in white colours next year for a similarly obscene amount.

pino

3rd September 2008, 07:22

pino

3rd September 2008, 18:45

FIFA rankings (previous position in brackets)

1. (1) Spain

2. (3) Italy

3. (2) Germany

4. (4) Netherlands

5. (5) Croatia

6. (6) Brazil

7. (7) Argentina

8. (8) Czech Republic

9. (9) Portugal

10. (13) Turkey

11. (12) France

12. (10) Russia

13. (11) Romania

14. (15) Cameroon

15. (14) England

16= (16) Scotland

16= (17) Bulgaria

18. (18) Greece

19. (20) Israel

20. (19) Ghana

England only 1 place ahead Scotland ? :eek: I hope you don't blame Capello for that :p :

Simmi

3rd September 2008, 19:07

"We await the imminent arrival of Villa, Messi, Torres, Kaka, Robinho, Berbatov and Arshavin to our club in the next 12 months"

"We are going to be the biggest club in the world, bigger than both Real Madrid and Manchester United."

says City new owner Al-Fahim...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593936.stm

Well they certainly have big plans. I have no doubt their money will attract top players, but not the ones they listed. Robinho is (and will continue to) come in for huge amount of criticism for his move. He had been completely berated in Brazil for his decision.

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1777_4089708,00.html

At least when players went to Chelsea for fat money they could get away with saying they wanted to win trophy's, play for a top quality team etc.

With City that wont be as easy. I'm sure they will be contenders in a few years possibly. Might players be scared for their credibility moving to an overnight power club like Man City?

Despite being a United fan I am happy that a club shows signs of competing with the top 4 in the Premier League. I dont know about anyone else but I dont think City will find it as easy as Chelsea did to make it to the top.

pino

3rd September 2008, 21:09

If City wants to make to the top, they need to buy better players than Robinho, I watched him many times at Real and didn't impress me at all. Can't believe they pay so much money for him :crazy:

MrJan

3rd September 2008, 22:57

GridGirl

4th September 2008, 08:23

I never though Manchester City would actually give us all a reason to actually like Chelsea.

Curbishley and Keegan if he goes won't exactly be on the dole queue. I'm sure they'll get handsome payouts to tide them over untill their next job comes along.

Simmi

4th September 2008, 09:39

Against all the odds Alan Curbishley is the first manager to be sacked from a Premiership club this season :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7596106.stm

I know it says he resigned but I never trust that. Keegan to join him in the dole queue soon no doubt.

It would be great to see Slaven Bilic back in the Prem. I think he is destined for great things as manager and it might as well be with his old club. It also might mess up Croatia's preparations for their game with England next week.

For the record I dont think Curbs deserved the criticism he was getting. At least he saves a bit of face by quitting with the club in a strong position.

pino

4th September 2008, 09:43

Di Canio and Zola are the fave for the job...according to ital media :p :

stevie_gerrard

4th September 2008, 19:41

Keegans gone now as well :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7593683.stm

Its such a shame when a manager loved by the club and the fans gets screwed over by the board and ends up having no chocie but to walk out. He was Newcastles best chance of winning anything in my opinion, and i will be surprised now if they do anything of note in the next 5 years.

Meanwhile, on better news, wolves are top of the league :D 5-1 win over forest and WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE, I SAY WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!! :p : won't last obviously, but gotta take full advantage :p :

MrJan

4th September 2008, 21:16

Larsen

4th September 2008, 22:08

pino

5th September 2008, 05:20

Being a Newcastle Fan, im so disgusted by what transpired that i've gave up on them and football in general. Too much money in it nowadays...rugby all the way now :P (though this is a football topic)

A Newcastle fan ? :s I expected you to be a FC København fan ;)

pino

5th September 2008, 13:12

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/49831/Hughes-in-60m-Buffon-swoop

These people are crazy !!! :p :

MrJan

5th September 2008, 13:39

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/49831/Hughes-in-60m-Buffon-swoop

These people are crazy !!! :p :

Succesfully ruining the brilliant sport of football. Time for transfer and wage caps I think.

dwf1

5th September 2008, 16:28

MrJan

5th September 2008, 17:18

ONLY ONE KEVIN KEEGAN BECAUSE WE'RE WALKING IN A KEEGAN WONDERLAND!!!!

Where would we be without Keegan??
1. Championship because we would have gone down without him last year
2. A football team with no chants :P

Ashley has made a big mistake and will realise it when no-one turns up for the Hull game.....think we should purposely lose the game too

Balls!!! Keegan isn't that good a manager anymore, he's living on past glories, and even those weren't that amazing because when he got within sniffing distance of success he ballsed it all up.

Depending on who comes in to the job Newcastle are better off without him, just a shame that the fans can't see that.

dwf1

6th September 2008, 10:21

we were and are playing good football and getting somewhere this season. just what annoys us so much is the same thing as west ham.....transfers are the managers job!

MrJan

6th September 2008, 11:10

we were and are playing good football and getting somewhere this season. just what annoys us so much is the same thing as west ham.....transfers are the managers job!

But you say that you are playing good football and already have a fairly decent side but have lacked the tactician to turn that into good results. I don't think that the problem at Newcastle lies with the players but with the way that the team is being run, be it in the back room or gaffers talks it ain't going right and hasn't done for many years and I just don't think that Keegan was the man to turn it around.

GridGirl

6th September 2008, 11:27

Sounds like a useful degree to have then. :p

stevie_gerrard

7th September 2008, 17:33

Newcastle had a lot of potential just like West Ham did, and both clubs have lost managers who have given them decent starts for the season, both clubs werent in dire form, West ham had their best start for 9 years, Newcastle got a draw at Old Trafford, and 4 points from the first 9 which aint disasterous. The reason managers have left is becasue the board are not in cohesion with the coach who has a right to control who plays for the club and have a working relationship with the club, and if hes not alowed to do that, then its the boards fault for driving them away. You cant just get rid of players for a decent offer without consulting the managers first, its unacceptable in my opinion. I honestly believe that there was no better man than Keegan to get the best out of the crop of players at the club, especially considering the start they had.

I agree with you though about Friend, i followed what hes been doing as his name reguarly came up on my football reports and magazines as a possible star in the game, and its a shame he didnt get the chance to show what hes worth at exeter. He probably wont be ready for a high level of football at wolves at such a young age. Its another DJ campbell story, who went to bham and started ok but lost form and has since moved on i believe to a club of lesser talent because he couldnt cope on the big stage. I hope for Exeters sake it doesnt damage his career reguarly appearing in the reserves.

Internationals this weekend, and it was another drab performance from England as ever, winning 2-0 at andorra. Wales got off to a win as did the republic of ireland, but it was losses for Scotland and NI. Italy scraped through against Cyprus :p : and France lost to Austria :O

Heres hoping theres something more interesting to watch from England on Wednesday night.......

gadjo_dilo

8th September 2008, 06:50

Hallucinant clasification in group 7 :laugh: :

1. Lithuania 3p
2. Austria 3p
3. Serbia 3p
4. France 0p
5. Faroe Islands 0p
6. Romania 0p

Results:

Austria - France 3-1
Romania - Lithuania 0-3
Serbia-Faroe 2-0 ( harder than you may expect )

pino

10th September 2008, 06:33

Now is for real, tonight :

Croatia vs England
Italy vs Georgia
France vs Serbia
Russia vs Wales
Portugal vs Denmark

and more....

Valve Bounce

10th September 2008, 10:12

Let us start were we ended :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Svt_A1CDE

:D

I can top that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-DsNnCAGUk

.....................easily!!

pino

11th September 2008, 06:16

Valve Bounce

11th September 2008, 09:38

Croatia 1 England 4 :eek: :eek:

Well done Capello, let's see now if all those who criticize you have the balls to admit they were wrong :p :

Well done Denmark too (3-2 win in Portugal) :s hock: as for Italy we won but didn't play a good football :(

I think we didn't do too badly against Uzbekistan either.

By the way, the second word in the title is a verb, not a noun.

A.F.F.

11th September 2008, 11:06

Germany vs. Finland 3-3. On 72nd minute it was 3-2 for Finns.

Did germany play really really bad or Finland really really good?

pino

11th September 2008, 12:32

Germany vs. Finland 3-3. On 72nd minute it was 3-2 for Finns.

Did germany play really really bad or Finland really really good?

Germany played really really really bad :p :

janneppi

11th September 2008, 12:48

That was probably the first time in years since the Finnish team actully managed to play some offensive footy. And even without glass ankle Litmanen. :)

pino

11th September 2008, 12:55

Today former Chelsea and Italy player Zola, will be announced as new West Ham coach...Good Luck Gianfranco :up:

Valve Bounce

11th September 2008, 23:24

That was probably the first time in years since the Finnish team actully managed to play some offensive footy. And even without glass ankle Litmanen. :)

Well, if the Finnish team were offensive, I hope you gave them a warning. :p :

Storm

12th September 2008, 07:42

Zola was a class act as a player (I really liked the Chelsea team which won nothing back then), so lets hope he does well as a coach too :)
Good luck Gianfranco!

GridGirl

12th September 2008, 08:46

West Ham may have a new manager but their majority shareholders' company XL which is also their shirt sponsor went into administration this morning. Russians, Arabs, anyone..?

alfa155btcc

15th September 2008, 19:28

Zola was a class act as a player (I really liked the Chelsea team which won nothing back then), so lets hope he does well as a coach too :)
Good luck Gianfranco!

Nothing what do you mean he scored the winning goal when we won the Super Cup from Real Madrid get your facts right mate. aswell as another 4 trophies. :D

alfa155btcc

15th September 2008, 19:32

Hi Guys,

whats your thoughts on the game last weekend when the new power rich Man City faced the poorer Chelsea FC, what happened to the Robinho show except for the free kick he looked like a schoolboy lost in a plauground, glad we did`nt buy him what a waste of money and his celbration said it all mercenary. Good Luck Man City you will need, pure class showed through, Chelsea showed them what a team that wins League titles and has played in Champions League for the past 10 season looks like even Anelka got a goal.

Saluti
alfa155btcc
:s mokin:

pino

15th September 2008, 20:04

Chelsea isn't better than City...plenty mercenaries there too :p :

stevie_gerrard

15th September 2008, 20:49

its going to take time for Man City to get used to all the money, and for a man city side to take full advantage of the talent on offer. Robinho did ok for a debut, you cant complain when he scores, he just needs to regain some sharpness back and he will be deadly. Man City won't automatically be top 4 stuff, but in a couple of years, they could be at least challenging with a good manager at the realm, and good buys made and no deadwood.

Wolves won again at the weekend :D 3-1 away at Charlton, i'm wondering when we will lose our first game in the league this season, my moneys on tomorrow night against Palace :p :

Good to see Albion off the mark finally, and poor poor newcastle, you thought it couldnt get any worse and it does, sooner the whole saga is done and over with the better. It affects the club really badly, and its been seen before.

alfa155btcc

16th September 2008, 00:04

Chelsea isn't better than City...plenty mercenaries there too :p :

Plenty too in Italy thats why many of them have come over here eventually, namely a certain Mr Capello.

I think one of the only mercenaries we had was a certain Schevchenko, otherwise we had top professional on Great Wages, these days you get what you pay for watch how many mercenaries go to man city what else they gonna go there for not the weather LOL :p .

at least in the years Abramovich has been at Chelsea we have won many trophies, but we did that before in the Gullit/Vialli days, don`t you remember ????
;)

pino

16th September 2008, 05:51

Plenty too in Italy thats why many of them have come over here eventually, namely a certain Mr Capello.

I think one of the only mercenaries we had was a certain Schevchenko, otherwise we had top professional on Great Wages, these days you get what you pay for watch how many mercenaries go to man city what else they gonna go there for not the weather LOL :p .

at least in the years Abramovich has been at Chelsea we have won many trophies, but we did that before in the Gullit/Vialli days, don`t you remember ????
;)

Capello didn't sign for England for money, he earned a lot coaching Milan, Roma, Juve, and Real, he moved for a new challenge in a new country.

Chelsea won many trophies ? not many compared to other big Club in Europe :p :

Storm

16th September 2008, 09:35

Champions League starts tonight people!!!

I think we are getting Liverpool v Marseille live on TV (there might be another game on their 2nd channel, hopefully its Barca v Sporting Lisbon) and they must win !! 1-1 draw v Santander on the week-end :s 1 point off 2 games in la Liga and only 1 penalty scored.

pino

16th September 2008, 11:42

Fortunately I can watch the match I want thanks to Sky Italy, it will probably be Panathinaikos-Inter, a tough match for the "special one" :p : Will also keep an eye on Barca-Sporting L ;)

Brown, Jon Brow

16th September 2008, 12:36

Robinho..........glad we did`nt buy him

Of course you are ;)

MrJan

16th September 2008, 12:36

I think one of the only mercenaries we had was a certain Schevchenko, otherwise we had top professional on Great Wages, these days you get what you pay for watch how many mercenaries go to man city what else they gonna go there for not the weather LOL :p

Don't agree that you get what you pay for, Chelsea have forked out a fortune for mediocre players like SWP, matey from Reading etc. etc. Also as a fan of lower league football I am able to appreciate the ability of our manager in signing people on free transfers or the quality youth system.

You also seem to be a somewhat deluded Chelsea fan as they love signing people for extortianate sums whereas the only person to join Man City since the take over was a certain Robinho who Chelsea were trying to sign anyway. Add to this old Didier who was intent on leaving but suddenly changed his mind (no doubt due to a healthier bank balance) and king of the merceneries Anelka. Not to mention Lampard who certainly isn't with the club for the love of it and Cashley, Wayne Bridge etc. etc. etc.

alfa155btcc

16th September 2008, 17:09

Capello didn't sign for England for money, he earned a lot coaching Milan, Roma, Juve, and Real, he moved for a new challenge in a new country.

Chelsea won many trophies ? not many compared to other big Club in Europe :p :

You must be dreaming my friend, when he was at my second club Juventus he soon ran off to Real when JUve were having there problems if he was`nt a mercenary he would`nt of run like he did, he would of stayed and got them back up to Serie A, as for coming to england for new challenge don`t give me that £6 million a year sounds like a mercenary to me mate, 4 year contract you work it out nice little pension fund to he allready vast wealth.

Yes chelsea have won many trophies and will win many more watch this space.
:p :p :p

@Don't agree that you get what you pay for, Chelsea have forked out a fortune for mediocre players like SWP, matey from Reading etc. etc. Also as a fan of lower league football I am able to appreciate the ability of our manager in signing people on free transfers or the quality youth system.

You also seem to be a somewhat deluded Chelsea fan as they love signing people for extortianate sums whereas the only person to join Man City since the take over was a certain Robinho who Chelsea were trying to sign anyway. Add to this old Didier who was intent on leaving but suddenly changed his mind (no doubt due to a healthier bank balance) and king of the merceneries Anelka. Not to mention Lampard who certainly isn't with the club for the love of it and Cashley, Wayne Bridge etc. etc. etc.

I thought SWP should of stayed and given more of a chance and hes definately not mediocre, you `ve been watching too much lower league footy LOL.

I can assure you i am not a deluded Chelsea fan as i have supported them for over thirty years good and bad. As for signing players for extortianate sums those days are few and far between mr abramovich will not be taken for a ride as he may have been before, that why when Real agreed with Man City for Robinho Kenyon asks the russian do you want to increase bid and he said no not worth anymore money which i think is a good thing, long may that continue, if a Kaka comes available then that`s different. as for a certain Didier on his day he is the best in the world a true world beater he wanted to leave but no one wanted him more than anything else.

As for Ashley Cole he is playing as one of our best players at the moment and if he continues he will surpas his arsenal days, Wayne Bridge Good Player and now squad player teams would kill for Squads like ours, Anelka is not a favourite of mine but on his day a dangerous player, and as for Lampard, he has shown loyalty to Chelsea in the past and allthough he got 5 years fair play to him, at the moment the best Midfielder in the League with a certain Deco, do you want me to carry on ????

Stick to your non league you obviously know more about that that Top Teams in UK and Europe LOL, or is it Jealousy, why you not Jealous of Man City as they were going to buy a certain chubby Ronaldo hehehehehehe

pino

16th September 2008, 18:15

You must be dreaming my friend, when he was at my second club Juventus he soon ran off to Real when JUve were having there problems if he was`nt a mercenary he would`nt of run like he did, he would of stayed and got them back up to Serie A, as for coming to england for new challenge don`t give me that £6 million a year sounds like a mercenary to me mate, 4 year contract you work it out nice little pension fund to he allready vast wealth.

Sounds like you don't know Capello then, because he always wanted to return to Madrid once again, and win one more title there. Believe it or not he also went to England for a personal challenge and to show the World he can also win there. As for Juve being your 2nd Team, no thanks... Juventus is second to none :p :

Forza Juve ! :D

gadjo_dilo

17th September 2008, 06:11

Mamma mia!!!!!!
AS Roma - CFR Cluj 1-2 (despite referee's efforts who infamously supported Roma at hard :laugh: :laugh: )

Storm

17th September 2008, 07:15

pino

17th September 2008, 07:37

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7620106.stm

Roma lost..which is always good since Titty plays there....2nd goal was very good by CFR Cluj.

Barcelona 3-1 Sporting Lisboa
Finally a good scoreline...Marquez with a header, Etoo put in a penalty and Xavi scored a typical goal from a cross..

I watched Liverpool beat Marseille 2-1.
Unfortunately the live games were Liverpool and Chelsea on 2 channels.
Tonight live matches are Man U and Arsenal.
Juventus v Zenit is delayed game just like Barca game was which means it starts at 0230 after first game finishes (0015 kickoff) :(

English Premier league and its hype on TV here is making me sick as all matches broadcast involve English clubs...Just because most people who watch European football here are fans of English football (main reason is due to all the marketing of that league and most of these "fans" are bandwagon fans, everyone is a Man U/MS/Ferrari fan)

I won't get to watch live Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Real or Juventus games till we get to the knock-out stage. I hope we don't get a all premiership crap semi-finals again this year and the La Liga clubs can do something about it.
I have no hopes from Italian clubs :p :

Roma was a joke last night, I watched Inter playing in Greece and switched channel all the time but gave up on Roma after 30 min...what a crap performance :s Storm, same problem here in Denmark, they only send english clubs matches, got fed up and bought a subscrition for Sky Italy, so I decide the match to watch as they send all matches "live" at the same time.

Juventus-Zenit is going to be a very exciting match, and a difficult one to win for my beloved Juve, unless Del Piero once again shows everyone his amazing class and plays how he can plays :D

No hope for italian clubs eh ? :hmph:

Storm

17th September 2008, 09:06

Yes Del Piero will start, just read team news...

I said no hope, as Milan isn't around this time....some hopes from Mourinho :p : but I never liked Inter.

Lets see how Zzuve goes vs Zenit and then Real M :cheese:

alfa155btcc

17th September 2008, 12:25

Sounds like you don't know Capello then, because he always wanted to return to Madrid once again, and win one more title there. Believe it or not he also went to England for a personal challenge and to show the World he can also win there. As for Juve being your 2nd Team, no thanks... Juventus is second to none :p :

Forza Juve ! :D

Return to Madrid come on dont give me that you are in a dream world :p : , he went there and same thing happened to him like the first time round serves him right, you must never have seen the interview that i saw on italian tv when he admited he was offered the England job before Errikson and he turned it down caue he said he could not manage a foriegn national team and play against Italy what a load of rubbish when the money was right he still came here, He Is a Mercenary end of story.

Ciao, Ciao :D

alfa155btcc

17th September 2008, 12:27

:s mokin: Great win for the Mighty Blues last NIght Well Done Chelsea and we did`nt even play that well second half.

:s mokin: :p : :s mokin: :p :

MrJan

17th September 2008, 13:55

I thought SWP should of stayed and given more of a chance and hes definately not mediocre, you `ve been watching too much lower league footy LOL.

I watch enough football across all leagues to know that SWP ain't as brilliant as Chelsea made out. Of course he's mediocre, he doesn't stand out as someone that every team needs. He'd be a much better player if he hadn't spent so much time warming the bench but had actually stayed at Man City the first time round. I say the same about Bale and Walcott at the moment but obviously the lure of the Premiership was too much for them.

I can assure you i am not a deluded Chelsea fan as i have supported them for over thirty years good and bad.

Anyone who thinks that Chelsea don't sign mercenries is deluded IMO :p :

as for a certain Didier on his day he is the best in the world a true world beater he wanted to leave but no one wanted him more than anything else.

Yes he is fantastic, I'm not arguing about the quality of Drogba (nor most the other players), just that half of them are at Chelsea for the money.

As for signing players for extortianate sums those days are few and far between mr abramovich will not be taken for a ride as he may have been before

Maybe we don't see the stupid money signings as much but there are still players that have been bought by Chelsea at far more than their actual value, Sidwell and SWP are 2 that spring to mind who I wouldn't have purchased for so much.

As for Ashley Cole he is playing as one of our best players at the moment and if he continues he will surpas his arsenal days

He's alright as a player but again is just following the money.

Lampard, he has shown loyalty to Chelsea in the past and allthough he got 5 years fair play to him at the moment the best Midfielder in the League with a certain Deco, do you want me to carry on ????

You tell me with a straight face that Lampard is at Chelsea because he is loyal and not because he was offered more cash than he'd have got in Europe. IMO Deco is way better than Frank and I'll give him benefit of the doubt by saying that he wanted to play in the Premiership and wasn't cash hunting

Stick to your non league you obviously know more about that that Top Teams in UK and Europe LOL, or is it Jealousy, why you not Jealous of Man City as they were going to buy a certain chubby Ronaldo hehehehehehe

Firstly it's not non-league football that I watch, not anymore :D Jealousy, certainly not. I'm proud that not only is my team not owned by some foreigner who doesn't follow football but actually a fan run club which I own a part of. I just dislike the attitude of Chelsea, nor the idea of buying success and how I can walk down Exeter high street and see more Chelsea shirts than City.

Of course the money would be handy but after the club came so close to disappearing I'm just happy to be financially sound and in the football league.

alfa155btcc

17th September 2008, 18:01

I watch enough football across all leagues to know that SWP ain't as brilliant as Chelsea made out. Of course he's mediocre, he doesn't stand out as someone that every team needs. He'd be a much better player if he hadn't spent so much time warming the bench but had actually stayed at Man City the first time round. I say the same about Bale and Walcott at the moment but obviously the lure of the Premiership was too much for them.

Anyone who thinks that Chelsea don't sign mercenries is deluded IMO :p :

Yes he is fantastic, I'm not arguing about the quality of Drogba (nor most the other players), just that half of them are at Chelsea for the money.

Maybe we don't see the stupid money signings as much but there are still players that have been bought by Chelsea at far more than their actual value, Sidwell and SWP are 2 that spring to mind who I wouldn't have purchased for so much.

He's alright as a player but again is just following the money.

You tell me with a straight face that Lampard is at Chelsea because he is loyal and not because he was offered more cash than he'd have got in Europe. IMO Deco is way better than Frank and I'll give him benefit of the doubt by saying that he wanted to play in the Premiership and wasn't cash hunting

Firstly it's not non-league football that I watch, not anymore :D Jealousy, certainly not. I'm proud that not only is my team not owned by some foreigner who doesn't follow football but actually a fan run club which I own a part of. I just dislike the attitude of Chelsea, nor the idea of buying success and how I can walk down Exeter high street and see more Chelsea shirts than City.

Of course the money would be handy but after the club came so close to disappearing I'm just happy to be financially sound and in the football league.

As for SWP he was and still is a good player not mediocre, was`nt given a good enough chance at chelsea in my opinion, he is far from medicre one of the better players at Man City now.

I can assure i am definately not deluded as i said have been Chelsea fan for over 30 years far from deluded mate, have seen the good and the bad, get your facts right mate. :p

as fo most players at chelsea for the money that is just jealousy cause you wish you had players of our caliber at your mighty Exeter LOL :D
and if you are trying make a point about this being the fact at chelsea then you must iunclude Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and now Man City, and let me put this to you as i am fed up of hearing from these fans who have a problem with chelsea and there players and fans, if you were offered £10,000 more a year for your own job you honestly tell me you would stay with your old job, thats not the players fault.

as for sidwell was not a MOurinho signing this was a peter kenyon signing, and he was on a free just wages no fee to Reading so was not that much he only stayed a year and we sold him onto ASton Villa for over £5 Million good business if you ask me.

I can tell you with a very straight face that Lamprd is chelsea through and through, he was never going anywhere, not even INter he just wanted his contract sorted out earlier rather than later and chelsea left it till now to sort out, what ever he is getting paid good luck to him dont resent him for it, are you one of these england fans that gets on his back all the time are ?

You are Jealous ofcorse you are, so what wereb owned by a foreign owner with lots of money so what we were days from doing a leed utd, i still would of be a fan does not make any difference to me mate Chelsea is my team who ever owns them, and as for Abramovich he may not of been a fan but definately is now. Don`t resent people for buying chelsea shirts thats there choice not yours after all you dont see man utd fans in Manchester do you LOL, it is a free world, and again being owned by a foreigner dont be so racist mate. Jealousy I thnks. :p :

Glad for You that your mighty Exeter are safe and i hope you have a good season.

pino

17th September 2008, 22:24

Amaaaaaaaazing Del Piero again :bounce:

Rollo

18th September 2008, 02:28

With AIG being bailed out to the tune of $85bn by the US government it now effectively means that Man Utd is sponsored by... AMERICA :eek:

Storm

18th September 2008, 07:53

Juve 1-0 and ADP scoring...pino is in heaven already!

Real 2-0 Borisov and Man U , the greatest team and champions of all-time with the greatest ever player to walk this earth (playing for 30mins) drew 0-0 vs Villarreal.....
Nice one - el submarino amarillo!

GridGirl

18th September 2008, 08:56

MrJan

18th September 2008, 10:04

As for SWP he was and still is a good player not mediocre, was`nt given a good enough chance at chelsea in my opinion, he is far from medicre one of the better players at Man City now.

I can assure i am definately not deluded as i said have been Chelsea fan for over 30 years far from deluded mate, have seen the good and the bad, get your facts right mate.

as fo most players at chelsea for the money that is just jealousy cause you wish you had players of our caliber at your mighty Exeter LOL
and if you are trying make a point about this being the fact at chelsea then you must iunclude Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and now Man City, and let me put this to you as i am fed up of hearing from these fans who have a problem with chelsea and there players and fans, if you were offered £10,000 more a year for your own job you honestly tell me you would stay with your old job, thats not the players fault.

as for sidwell was not a MOurinho signing this was a peter kenyon signing, and he was on a free just wages no fee to Reading so was not that much he only stayed a year and we sold him onto ASton Villa for over £5 Million good business if you ask me.

I can tell you with a very straight face that Lamprd is chelsea through and through, he was never going anywhere, not even INter he just wanted his contract sorted out earlier rather than later and chelsea left it till now to sort out, what ever he is getting paid good luck to him dont resent him for it, are you one of these england fans that gets on his back all the time are ?

You are Jealous ofcorse you are, so what wereb owned by a foreign owner with lots of money so what we were days from doing a leed utd, i still would of be a fan does not make any difference to me mate Chelsea is my team who ever owns them, and as for Abramovich he may not of been a fan but definately is now. Don`t resent people for buying chelsea shirts thats there choice not yours after all you dont see man utd fans in Manchester do you LOL, it is a free world, and again being owned by a foreigner dont be so racist mate. Jealousy I thnks. :p :

Glad for You that your mighty Exeter are safe and i hope you have a good season.

That's a typical Premiership fan response, putting everything down to jealousy and it's that kind of arrogance that makes me hate Chelsea (the same reason I don't like Newcastle who seem to think that they're special). Feel free to laugh at 'mighty Exeter' but I honestly don't want to be taken over by money men. Exeter City came very close to going under due to some dodgy dealings by a couple of corrupt b*****s (now convicted) and survived through sheer bloody mindedness from the fans and the luck of a cup draw against Man Utd which raised some cash. As I said before I am proud of Exeter and couldn't give a toss about other teams. It's not the foreigner's I don't like per se, it's muppets like Hicks and Gillette who don't know what they are buying, a history of passion and pride in the beautiful game.

You may have supported Chelsea since you were suckiling on your mothers tit for all I care but you lambasted Man City for hiring mercenaries which seems a little hypocritical IMO as a fan of the club in the country who is reknowned for paying silly wages (as they all are in my mind, it's stupid money in football). I've not got a problem with the players wanting more money, it makes perfect sense, just don't defend them by saying that they aren't mercenaries because there are few professional footballers these days who wouldn't bite your hand off for an extra 10k a week. If I'm honest John Terry is the first person to spring to mind who I think is actually loyal to the club, likewise Agbonlahor at Villa.

I'm sure you'll be surprised I don't particularly want prima donnas like Berbatov and Drogba at my club, we've got a decent young side who don't think that they're bigger than the world and while they not be as skillful as premiership players I'm largely happy with the squad.

If it's a free world for people to support whoever they want then I'm free to dislike them for it :D But I'm certainly not jealous of any club, because I could easily decide that I'm now a Man U, Real Madrid or LA Galaxy fan if I wanted. Don't expect that to happen though because I'm a Grecian through and through and if you cut me I bleed red ;) :cheese: :p :

MrJan

18th September 2008, 10:09

Alphafan and Jan Neo you are both making me chuckle. Theres two lad I work with, one is a devout Chelsea fan and the other a West Brom fan. The amount of hours I've heard them argue as the West Brom fan say's pound for pound West Brom are a better team than Chelsea. I'd tend to agree with the Baggies fan but the Chelsea fan is right, what does it matter when West Brom have no change of winning the Premiership let alone with Champions League.

As a football fan you've just got to have realistic expectations. Lets face it, those of a Chelsea fan are always going to be higher than that of an Exeter City fan. :)

It's all relative :) Chelsea fans were probably more narked at last season despite making a decent go of the league and getting to the CL final. Exeter on the other hand manage to win the playoffs of the Conference and have been bouncing off the walls since :bounce:

I'm of the 'support your home team' crowd because so many fans these days actually have no connection with the club they support. Some truly become fans who feel the pain when their team lose, some just enjoy the glory when they win. Personally I don't like it but to each their own and all that :)

GridGirl

18th September 2008, 13:03

MrJan

18th September 2008, 13:18

Serious question Jan Yeo, do you honestly thing you club give the slightest damn about you? Whether your a glory fan or a die hard I very much doubt your club cares. Obviously any money you pump into the club will be greatly appreciated but the level of fanatacism isn't.

Obviously the club is largely after the money but being as the fans run Exeter City it's sort of a different relationship, although that's not to say that a take over wouldn't happen. In terms of turning up every week, it's only the money which really makes a difference.

The club tend to be fairly proud of having a decent turn out each week and a crowd making noise but they wouldn't really miss me if I wasn't there. Obviously teams in the lower leagues notice this more though, if 500 Man U fans don't turn up one week then another 500 will, at City it means a huge drop in revenue and support.

On the other hand there are a lot of fans that work for the club volutarily. Groundstaff and some coaches help out for no money and without those sort of fans the club wouldn't be here today.

P.S In the end though I don't care what the club thinks as long as they don't screw me over. I get my 90 minutes of 'entertainment' each week and that'll do for me. Just because I live every moment of a game in my heart doesn't mean that I expect the players and manager too, for them it's work, for me it's a passion :)

Rollo

19th September 2008, 05:26

I doubt Manchester Utd's AIG sponsorship with last till the end of its current contract. Oh well.

So do I... :D

http://www.crossingwallstreet.com/2034.jpg

Drew

19th September 2008, 10:57

That's a typical Premiership fan response, putting everything down to jealousy and it's that kind of arrogance that makes me hate Chelsea (the same reason I don't like Newcastle who seem to think that they're special). Feel free to laugh at 'mighty Exeter' but I honestly don't want to be taken over by money men. Exeter City came very close to going under due to some dodgy dealings by a couple of corrupt b*****s (now convicted) and survived through sheer bloody mindedness from the fans and the luck of a cup draw against Man Utd which raised some cash. As I said before I am proud of Exeter and couldn't give a toss about other teams. It's not the foreigner's I don't like per se, it's muppets like Hicks and Gillette who don't know what they are buying, a history of passion and pride in the beautiful game.

Yup, I don't like it either. What's going to look better in the history books, Russian billionaire came, spent money, bought players, got bored and went elsewhere or club near the edge of non-existence, relegated out of the football league and then saved by the fans, it could almost be a film. I hate Exeter city (you know that :p : ), but whenever I read about the determination of the fans just to keep the place afloat, you have to admit that's something special even miraculous. Some people just don't seem to appreciate that as much, for some it's just about being a glory supporter..

Storm

23rd September 2008, 09:41

OT, a list of bad football jerseys (will try to search the english version with all the jerseys!)

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/athletic/es/desarrollo/1167616.html

Atletic Bilbao is horrible but the Hull City jersey is hilarious!

stevie_gerrard

24th September 2008, 20:16

MrJan

24th September 2008, 21:13

There are bigger clubs than Chelsea, thats true, but they are still a big club nonetheless. He was unfortunate there were better players at the time like Robben and Joe Cole on the wings that kept him out the first squad. The fact SWP is back at city will produce big things for him, especially if all their new found money pays off for him.

Which is why I think Chelsea was a mistake. He was always going to have a fight to actually get regular football, anyone could have told him that. And he may be England's best option on the right but there aren't really that many truly decent guys out there. Bentley is an overhyped prima donna and Lennon seemingly does nothing apart from have the campest run in English football.

As for Theo Walcott, again too early for him to move to Arsenal, but when you get a big chance like that for another top club, you take the opportunity. Took a long time to get into the groove, but we are seeing the hard work pay off this season, Arsene wenger had every right to protect him and make sure he was ready for the big moment, he showed flashes of brilliance when he came off the bench in CL and Premier League in past seasons, and now hes producing it every week. Lets not forget this man became the youngest englishman to score a hat-trick for England against Croatia, plus the fact his cameo at the weekend off the bench was superb, he breezed past the bolton defence to start a move resulting in a third goal for arsenal in the game. If he is not the in form player of the moment right now, then he will be soon, this is his season, quite frankly, this is the season where he shows just how good he is.

:up: Definately starting to show that he has something about him and yes you do move to Arsenal if you are told that you are good enough for England. Also Southampton are a selling club anyway and pretty much had no choice. Again though I'd have liked to have seen him play these 2 years in a lesser club (either by joining or on loan) because reserves games and sub appearances don't help in improving proper match experience and fitness. If he had been at Fulham for example then I think that he'd have been an England starter back at the start of the year.

Heard that your LB made a right cock up last week, should've put Georgey Friend on instead ;) :D

alfa155btcc

25th September 2008, 00:31

Great Win For Brighton on wednesday night, they only went and best the richest club in the world ie Man City LOL, well done Brighton, one for the smaller clubs, well what is for sure Man City won`t win the Carling Cup this season.

:D :D :D

Storm

25th September 2008, 07:40

Barcelona 3-2 Betis - last night....cracking game too

Eto'o scored 2 quick goals before 25"...Messi and his combination was deadly...then Barca didnt exactly go to sleep and kept creating chances but couldnt add to the score. In 2nd half, Betis scored 2 quick goals and we had 2-2 after 70 mins....Guardiola put on Gudjohnsen and Bojan in place of the 2 defensive midfielders (Keyta & Toure) and they could have scored 3/4 goals.

Gudjohnsen scored a great goal to win it and Bojan missed an easy chance after Messi did some amazing work.

Tough game but such games help the team more as Pep said after the match....Eto'o scored his 100th goal in a Barca shirt :up:

ozrevhead

25th September 2008, 12:57

Drew

25th September 2008, 16:55

I thought you guys might like to know I will be living 500 metres from the Stadio Olimpico in Turin, home of Juve and Torino :D

pino

25th September 2008, 17:05

I thought you guys might like to know I will be living 500 metres from the Stadio Olimpico in Turin, home of Juve and Torino :D

Don't miss this great chance to watch Alessandro Del Piero playing "live", he's in great form right now :D

MrJan

25th September 2008, 18:34

Don't miss this great chance to watch Alessandro Del Piero playing "live", he's in great form right now :D

He's still alive :eek: Wow, the wonders of modern medicine :D He must be pushing 70 years old by now :p :

pino

25th September 2008, 18:38

He's still alive :eek: Wow, the wonders of modern medicine :D He must be pushing 70 years old by now :p :

Alive and better than ever :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W6fXJMIGxs

Drew

25th September 2008, 19:48

I'm shocked that he's still playing too! And Juve are probably the only top league club in the world that is downsizing :laugh: :laugh:

Storm

29th September 2008, 09:31

What a week-end of football (and derbies especially!)
Torres with 2 goals in the space of 5 minutes to down Everton.

Barcelona played a very volatile game and won 2-1 vs Espanyol...Good to see Henry get a start and score an important goal (Barca 0-1 down and Henry equalised in 82' and Messi scored a penalty in injury time) Can't believe I'm hoping for Henry to do well...but fact is if Etoo gets injured Barca are screwed unless Henry finds some form...Bojan misses far too many!

Valencia still lead the Liga though followed by Villarreal...2 goals by David Villa yet again!!!!

and yes....Ronaldinho scored the winner in the Milan derby! :cheese:

pino

29th September 2008, 11:10

and yes....Ronaldinho scored the winner in the Milan derby! :cheese:

What an exciting match :up: I watched live and was delighted to see Ronaldinho scoring the winning goal :s mokin: meanwhile...Lazio's leading SerieA thanks to a great young argentinian player (Zarate, bought from Birmingham) who scored 6 goals in 5 matches so far :eek: Juve still in touch but not in good form :(

Storm

29th September 2008, 12:13

Yeah I saw Zarate score a couple of goals last year in the PL...
Juve 0-0 isn't it? and Trezeguet is out too...

Atleast they have a easy game on wednesday?
Real v Zenit should be good!

pino

29th September 2008, 13:58

Can't wait to watch Zenit vs Real :hmph: as for Juve, it looks like an easy match but as posted before, they are not in great shape at the moment, unless Del Piero...

:p :

Storm

30th September 2008, 04:01

Bloody hell...we get Arsenal v Porto live and the second live game is...yes you guessed it....Man Utd vs Aalborg :angryfire

Real v Zenit is delayed match so starts at 0215 :\

pino

30th September 2008, 06:38

Bloody hell...we get Arsenal v Porto live and the second live game is...yes you guessed it....Man Utd vs Aalborg :angryfire

Real v Zenit is delayed match so starts at 0215 :\

If I were you I would move to Spain or Italy :p :

Storm

30th September 2008, 09:44

:p :

now I hope all of them reach the next round and I really hope we get a quarter final with only 2 English clubs in it.

Storm

1st October 2008, 05:31

gadjo_dilo

2nd October 2008, 08:11

Public statement: I aplogize for all my bad sayings about CFR Cluj and the infamous way they got to the CL groups.
Last night I was laying comfortably in bed waiting for Chelsea to winnow the rather modest team from Cluj-Napoca but finished by becoming a CFR fan.

pino

2nd October 2008, 10:45

Fat chance though...looking at how Porto etc are playing...0-4 to Arsenal

Real 2-1 Zenit....and they only won it due to Casillas (again !)

Juve were 0-2 vs Borisov :eek: atleast saved the game with a 2-2

Yep Juve only managed a 2-2 draw but it was Ranieri mistake, he played with Camoranesi, Nedved, Giovinco, Del Piero and Iaquinta at the same time leaving poor Sissoko alone in the miedfield against 4 opponents :eek: Anyway we had plenty of chances to score the wiining goal in the 2nd half...but unfortunately we weren't as lucky as both Real and especially Barca... :hmph:

Was delighted about Arsenal win as I have 3 Arsenal players in my Fantasy Team :D

MrJan

2nd October 2008, 23:43

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this. Joseba BlokewithBasquetypename has signed for his last year at Athletico without expecting any money:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7649109.stm

Shame that we don't see a few more footballers doing this. Berbatov, Robinho, Ballack, Ronaldo(s) and Anelka all spring to mind :down:

Storm

3rd October 2008, 06:15

Jan it's , Etxeberria (García Macua y Joseba Etxeberria 2 players infact)

"Etxeberria jugará gratis"
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/athletic/es/desarrollo/1171381.html

ozrevhead

4th October 2008, 11:35

Hi everyone :)

Just wondering if Europe is showing any coverage of the Asian Champions Leauge and their thoughts if anyones watching? Although we think Asian Football is high quality but I dont know what the europeans think!

Semi Finalists were decided last night, and congratulations to....
Gamba Osaka (Japan) Vs Uwara Reds (Japan)
FC Bunyodkor (Uzbekistan) vs Adelaide United (Australia) :D :D :D

Final to be decided Nov 5 & 12!
I know talking to yourself is the first sign of madness but it looks like the only way to get a response!!!

Because of the World Club championship policy of allowing only one team from the host nation to participate and that host nation is Japan, the winner of the Gamba Osaka and Uwara Reds semi will be Japan's representative and the winner of the Bunyodkor and Adelaide United will take the ACL Champions spot.

Much to play for! :D

pino

4th October 2008, 11:46

I know talking to yourself is the first sign of madness but it looks like the only way to get a response!!!

Because of the World Club championship policy of allowing only one team from the host nation to participate and that host nation is Japan, the winner of the Gamba Osaka and Uwara Reds semi will be Japan's representative and the winner of the Bunyodkor and Adelaide United will take the ACL Champions spot.

Much to play for! :D

Don't worry oz, I've been talking to myself lot of time in here :( ;) however I can't help as I honestely don't care about ACL....sorry :p :

ozrevhead

4th October 2008, 11:48

thanks....for nothing

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 20:58

Barcelona-Atl. Madrid: 2-0 after 5 minutes :D :D

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 21:00

3-0 after 8 minutes :D :D :D

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 21:05

3-1 after 13 minutes :( :p

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 21:11

4-1 Etoo again after 18 :D
a goal every 3-4 minutes :crazy:

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 21:19

5-1 :d

pino

4th October 2008, 21:50

5-1 :d

I am watching this live and must say Barca and Messi have been amazing so far :eek: :up:

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 21:54

you're in Barcelona? :p
Messi is playing like Dios :D :up:
Atletico are lucky to still have 11 men on the field, and only to be 5 down :o

2nd half starting now :)

donKey jote

4th October 2008, 22:22

Henry 6-1 :D

wait a sec... I don't like Henry :mad: :p

Storm

6th October 2008, 04:16

Henry 6-1 :D

wait a sec... I don't like Henry :mad: :p

:D Me neither...but what a crazy game...
perfect way to end my birth-day ;)

Davedigler2004

6th October 2008, 16:36

All indications here in the US is that Henry is Seattle bound in the January window. Anyone hear anything different?

ozrevhead

7th October 2008, 09:33

Don't worry oz, I've been talking to myself lot of time in here :( ;) however I can't help as I honestely don't care about ACL....sorry :p :
doesnt suprise me - when it comes to sport europeans cant see past their own nose

I dont watch Euopean football because of their arrogance of the higest order to think that anything outside of Europe doent matter and that Euopean clubs think they are bigger than the game

[end rant]

jso1985

9th October 2008, 04:35

well European football is the most quality one, it has all the best players from other continents so it makes the other Champions Leagues(or the Libertadores cup) less interesting. So I don't blame them.

As for Henry to Seatlle... haven't heard anything, I hope it doesn't happen, he still has the skills for a top football league

pino

11th October 2008, 12:21

Among them :

England vs Kazakhstan

Scotland vs Norway

Slovenia vs Northern Ireland

Ukraine vs Croatia

Holland vs Iceland

Germany vs Russia

Sweden vs Portugal

Bulgaria vs Italy

Poland vs Czech Republic

Romania vs France

veeten

11th October 2008, 23:28

don't forget, US vs Cuba
:)

jso1985

12th October 2008, 03:41

Bolivia 3 Peru 0 :bounce:

Storm

13th October 2008, 06:50

I guess that was in La Paz? :p :

gadjo_dilo

13th October 2008, 09:26

Feroe Islands - Austria 1 -1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jso1985

13th October 2008, 19:36

I guess that was in La Paz? :p :

yeah, so what :p we tied with Brazil in Rio :D

BTCC2

20th October 2008, 17:44

Stoke City 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur!!!

The misery is piled on for Spurs!! Can't say i'm too unhappy.

MrJan

20th October 2008, 20:47

I can't really understand the Spurs situation. They have a good manager and a decent squad yet seem to be really struggling, even against mediocre opposition. On the other hand you have Hull who people expected to put in a worse performance than Derby and they're lying right at the top of the table and grabbing a few top name scalps :S

pino

21st October 2008, 07:26

Big match tonight in Turin : Juventus vs Real Madrid, unfortunately Juve are missing Buffon, Camoranesi, Poulsen, Trezequet, it will be a tough match, hope for the best :D

pino

21st October 2008, 22:01

Amaaaaaaazing Del Piero again !!!! Juve-Real 2-1 :bounce:

Storm

22nd October 2008, 05:32

Amaaaaaaazing Del Piero again !!!! Juve-Real 2-1 :bounce:

"Pizza del merengue" :cheese:
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20081021/noticia_53564025330.html

as usual I could not see it as we got stupid Man U v Celtic....F*** them

Is that game bigger than Real M v Juve? you may love or hate these clubs but surely they are the biggest clubs in terms of European Cups along with Liverpool & Milan.

janneppi

22nd October 2008, 06:33

I watched the second half of the Real -Juve game, and as somewhat fan of Holland, I was a bit disappointed Real didn't manage another goal. ;)

gadjo_dilo

22nd October 2008, 06:47

"Pizza del merengue" :cheese:
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20081021/noticia_53564025330.html

as usual I could not see it as we got stupid Man U v Celtic....F*** them

Is that game bigger than Real M v Juve? you may love or hate these clubs but surely they are the biggest clubs in terms of European Cups along with Liverpool & Milan.

Next time try to watch matches on http://www.sport.ro. They say they broadcast matches live but I can't check it.
Tonight there'll be Atletico Madrid – Liverpool and Inter Milano - Anorthosis.
See if it works.

Steaua - Olympique Lyon 3- 5. Crazy game.....

pino

22nd October 2008, 07:18

I watched the second half of the Real -Juve game, and as somewhat fan of Holland, I was a bit disappointed Real didn't manage another goal. ;)

Disappointed ? I believe not as much as one of your countryman who texted me "Go Real Madrid" just before Del Piero scored :laugh: :p :

pino

22nd October 2008, 08:39

Last night results :

Bayern 3 Fiorentina 0
Fenerbahce 2 Arsenal 5
Juventus 2 Real 1
Man Utd 3 Celtic 0
Porto 0 Dynamo Kiev 1
Steaua Bucharest 3 Lyon 5
Villarreal 6 AaB 3
Zenit 1 BATE 1

36 goals :eek: :up:

pino

22nd October 2008, 10:26

Milan has signed David Beckham :eek: He will join the squad on Jan 1st 2009 !

turves

22nd October 2008, 12:22

Milan has signed David Beckham :eek: He will join the squad on Jan 1st 2009 !

On loan until the US league starts up again

stevie_gerrard

22nd October 2008, 19:17

Yeh a bit of an eyecatcher that Beckham deal, be good to see whether hes good enough to play top football as he used to be able to, hes already done la liga and the premiership, its now time for the 3rd biggest league in the world.

Champions league was incredible last night, i watched the highlights afterwards, sensational! Man Utd for all their dominance were extremely lucky considering the terrible refereeing of the match, both of berbatovs goals were offside, allbeit marginal, but even so, He then got hailed as a superstar. Quite frankly, i think hes way too overpaid, and hes so selfish, and all the goals he has scored so far have been from a yard out. even i could score them. Hardly world class.

Del Piero however.... ;) He's a diffferent kettle of fish, that goal was outstanding last night, it got me out my seat.

Wolves Update: They have been on the slide lately :( A couple of losses were revived by a win over coventry (very fortunately) which put us back top of the table. But last night, a 5-2 loss to Norwich put us back in second place, and lacking a bit of confidence at the moment, need to get out of the slump we are in.

MrJan

22nd October 2008, 20:35

a 5-2 loss to Norwich put us back in second place, and lacking a bit of confidence at the moment, need to get out of the slump we are in.

5-2 to Norwich!!! Raise any eyebrows down at the bookies? :p : ;)

In second place and you are talking about a slump? Man some people are just pampered with their football :D Exeter are lying 5th at the moment and I'm stoked, even the outside possibility of being top at 16:50 on Saturday :eek: Unlikely though but I am impressed with how the team's doing, keep surprising people at the moment at lots of fans seem to be saying that their teams 'had a bad day'. I just wonder how many teams are going to have a bad day befpre they realise that they were just outplayed by the new boys.

As for DB to AC. Didn't see it coming but you have to appreciate Milan's approach to employing senior citizens. Fat Ronaldo, goal drought Shevchenko and now the fashion statement? Not exactly heavy hitters in my book.

GridGirl

22nd October 2008, 21:15

Wolves fans generally have annoying gloat when things are going good for them very early in a season. This has quite often come back to bite them on the bum so to speak when they begin to falter late on. I'm liking Stevie G for not getting too carried away, it really does make a refreshing change for a Wolves fan! :) Still can't complain too much when your in an automatic promotion spot though. ;)

Storm

23rd October 2008, 08:37

Del Piero's goal was amazing :up:

Last night's games...
Atletico 1-1 Liverpool at the Vicente Calderon
Barcelona 5-0 Basel :cool: (and Etoo was rested for the game and Henry only came on in the 2nd half!)
Roma 0-1 Chelsea

pino

23rd October 2008, 09:45

Watched Chelsea vs Roma last night and Roma played very well and deserved at least a draw, unfortunately didn't end that way.

Storm, too much class and $$$ difference, between Barca and Basel ;)

MrJan

25th October 2008, 14:33

Oh dear!!!! Just listening to the North East Derby commentary and it's ended in fighting on the pitch. We haven't seen this sort of thing in a ground for a long time and from the sounds of Five Live there was a lack of stewards which in a Derby which is always going to be a tense affair.

On the positive, well done to Sunderland, a good win against the old foe, even if the old foe is on it's knees.

MrJan

25th October 2008, 19:04

End of day and another win for Exeter. I'm enjoying things as much as possible because, like Hull fans, I know it probably win't last. Doesn't mean that this doesn't look awesome though :D

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7735/captureed2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/captureed2.jpg/1/w453.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img111/captureed2.jpg/1/)

Source: BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/table/default.stm)

janneppi

27th October 2008, 07:13

pino

27th October 2008, 13:30

Can someone explain to me, why when a player is given a push to the shoulders, he instantly grasps his face and falls to the ground rolling on the grass in agony as if someone had set his eyes on fire?

Is Real Madrid's pepe just having the weirdest neural system ever, or is he the kind of player that needs to have his player licence revoked for 5 years?

That's disguisting, it happens in Serie A too and it's because in these countries there's not the same sporting-culture you see in PL. It also annoys me ( and the referee should punish that) when players are asking referee to give a card to those who have committed a foul :down:

MrJan

27th October 2008, 19:25

Happening far too much over here now, even in the lower leagues which have traditionally been fairly tough with tackling. I think that the general opinion is that it's something that has arrived from Europe and in particular Italy.

I hate any sort of dive or over reaction. The Cristiano Ronaldo reaction to what was a nasty knock on Sunday was disgraceful and if I had been in charge of the game he'd have got the free kick but also a yellow card for being such a little b**** :D

jso1985

28th October 2008, 20:11

Can someone explain to me, why when a player is given a push to the shoulders, he instantly grasps his face and falls to the ground rolling on the grass in agony as if someone had set his eyes on fire?

Is Real Madrid's pepe just having the weirdest neural system ever, or is he the kind of player that needs to have his player licence revoked for 5 years?

Rivaldo has the weirdest neural sytem ever! touch his knees and his face will ache...

:down: that kinds of acts should be punished with retroactive red cards

pino

29th October 2008, 05:59

Rivaldo has the weirdest neural sytem ever! touch his knees and his face will ache...

:down: that kinds of acts should be punished with retroactive red cards

Here's Rivaldo's :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVTw1ysCgBY

The best still is Dida though :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2yQpwKuBC8

:laugh: :s

pino

29th October 2008, 06:31

btw Maradona has been named as new Argentina coach :s

janneppi

29th October 2008, 06:32

No, the best asre the last two pairs in this one. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_r-4F6624&feature=related

jso1985

31st October 2008, 01:45

btw Maradona has been named as new Argentina coach :s

that means Bolivia and all other countries at the bottom of the qualifying group have more chances now :p

pino

31st October 2008, 06:40

that means Bolivia and all other countries at the bottom of the qualifying group have more chances now :p

Stop dreaming, Argentina still have a great Squad, starting from Messi so it won't be easy even with Maradona as coach :crazy: ;)

Storm

3rd November 2008, 06:16

Yeah and he has his son-out-of-law Kun too :p :

Didn't watch football for a week as I was on holiday so now looking forward to this week-end...surprised to read that Liverpool beat Chelsea but then lost to Spurs :s They need Torres back quickly!

pino

3rd November 2008, 06:42

Storm, you have just missed another amazing goal by Del Piero in Juventus vs Roma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLGiYHnCOZE) 2-0 :D

Storm

3rd November 2008, 08:04

yeah, I read it in the newspaper today though ;)

pino

3rd November 2008, 13:05

yeah, I read it in the newspaper today though ;)

Did you also read about Real ? ;)

Storm

4th November 2008, 06:24

ofcourse 1-1 at Almeria and Barca are top :p :

pino

4th November 2008, 06:56

..and tomorrow Real-Juve :D

donKey jote

4th November 2008, 21:32

err... penalty?
:confused:
:dozey:

pino

4th November 2008, 22:24

err... penalty?
:confused:
:dozey:

Yes what a joke :down:

Amazing Roma 3-1 vs Chelsea anyway :up:

dumb

4th November 2008, 22:31

What a referee in a game Liverpool-Atlethic. Penalty for nothing into Atlethic gates. What a...?

pino

4th November 2008, 22:46

Liverpool always lucky and always in the last minutes...stupid referee :hmph:

donKey jote

4th November 2008, 23:25

from what I saw they probably deserved a draw, but not like that :mark:

Ian McC

6th November 2008, 21:55

Oh, you have just got to love old Arry! ;)

jso1985

7th November 2008, 03:54

Del Piero :eek: :up:

Storm

7th November 2008, 04:12

Del Piero :D

pino

7th November 2008, 05:28

Schuster: "Hemos estado tácticamente fenomenal" :eek: :s :laugh:

Storm

10th November 2008, 05:28

Real were really lucky to get a 4-3 win against Málaga :s
3 penalties in the game and Real M got 2 of those.....Higuain scored all 4 goals.

Better news in the late game Barcelona stuffed Valladolid 6-0.

Eto'o is on fire...4 goals in the first half..he has now 13 from 10 La Liga games :champion: I don't want to get my hopes too up so early but the Pep revolution seems to be working till now. Although Guardiola must be feeling foolish that he had decided to sell the guy in the summer :s

I have never been so happy to see Henry scoring a goal! He played pretty well and made 2 goals for Samuel but missed a couple of easy chances. Finally got an easy chance which he buried. :)

pino

12th November 2008, 06:38

Real Madrid-Real Union (3rd division) 4-3 Madrid out of Spanish Cup :p :

Storm

13th November 2008, 10:20

Hahaha....Schuster now has to win the next Liga game or will be fired!

Fenomenal my ar$e.....they have been leaking goals every match...December will be fun in Liga with Barca and Madrid playing each other & Valencia, Villarreal and Sevilla too. Villareal also got dumped out of the Copa del Rey by a Segunda team and Barca had to toil for a 1-0 win against Benidorm (2-0 agg).

Storm

17th November 2008, 12:25

Surprised that Bernd Schuster is still around...0-1 to Valladolid on Saturday
:laugh: (they were hammered 6-0 last week by Barca! see post 987)

This amazing "Pep revolution" continues as Barcelona won 2-0 Recreativo Huelva..Surprisingly Valencia lost 2-3 to Gijon and Villareal drew so Barca are well and truly on top of the Liga now.

December will make or break the title charge with games against all top teams.

jim mcglinchey

20th November 2008, 15:08

England Reserves 2 Germany 1

what would the first team have done to those Jermaines ?

pino

20th November 2008, 15:23

England Reserves 2 Germany 1

what would the first team have done to those Jermaines ?

Say thanks to Capello for that :p :

donKey jote

20th November 2008, 17:39

The Germans here reckon it was the German C that lost to the English B :p :

GridGirl

20th November 2008, 19:09

I dont condone the use of the 'D' word but this really made me chuckle. Nothing like a bit of local football rivalry. :D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cb5ZY7khC4

Storm

24th November 2008, 07:54

Finally the run of wins ended for Barca....1-1 draw vs Getafe
They dominated the game (Keita scored) and Bojan (why did he start??) was subbed by Henry and Gudjohnsen added some creativity in the end but they could not score the winner.
Schuster continues as Madrid won their game as well (just about) and Villarreal lost to Valladolid :crazy:

alfa155btcc

25th November 2008, 12:25

Say thanks to Capello for that :p :

amazing what an italian manager can do , Forza Italia, and previously in this post your arre also right Liverpool very lucky team but there luck will surely run out.