WSB Misano

My picks:
Race1:
Haga
Toseland
Bayliss
Corser
Biaggi
Race2:
Haga
Bayliss
Lanzi
Corser
Xaus
Supersport:
Am still watching and learning.

[tha_jackal]

Race1
1. Bayliss
2. Toseland
3. Corser

Race2
1. Bayliss
2. Biaggi
3. Corser

WSS
1. Sofuoglu
2. Parkes
3. West

Bring it on, should be good..

[Corny]

so the round is going to be held? I've red something about the asphalt not being able to ride on it..

[tha_jackal]

so the round is going to be held? I've red something about the asphalt not being able to ride on it..

The SBK riders tested there just the other week.. :confused:

[leopard]

so the round is going to be held? I've red something about the asphalt not being able to ride on it..
What's wrong with the asphalt, was there horse racing held there before?

[Corny]

No it got bad because of the high temperatures, I've red it in a Dutch magazine..

[leopard]

It hurts

[tha_jackal]

WSS FP1:

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 1'41.262 1'40.984 20
2 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.561 19 0.577
3 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 1'41.624 19 0.640
4 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.647 17 0.663
5 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR 1'47.569 1'41.652 16 0.668
6 [7] P.Riba Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'41.837 17 0.853
7 [9] F.Foret Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'41.984 16 1.000
8 [45] G.Vizziello Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'42.357 18 1.373
9 [31] V.Kallio Suzuki GSX-R600 1'42.496 20 1.512
10 [112] S.Cruciani Honda CBR600RR 1'42.628 15 1.644
11 [94] D.Checa Yamaha YZF-R6 1'42.682 20 1.698
12 [60] V.Ivanov Yamaha YZF-R6 1'42.774 19 1.790
13 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR 1'42.789 17 1.805
14 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 1'42.843 17 1.859
15 [44] D.Salom Yamaha YZF-R6 1'43.171 1'42.858 19 1.874


Goooo Ant :D

[leopard]

yeah good move --> big fish :D

[NinjaMaster]

Just noticed that on the WSB website. You beauty! Hopefully Parkes can get up there (it's only early days yet). Harms looks like he is really struggling in 27th, is he still injured? And Davide Guigliano and Barry Veneman are also well off the pace in 22nd and 28th respectively.

[NinjaMaster]

WSB free practice just finished.

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [11] T.Corser Yamaha YZF-R1 1'36.878 1'36.681 19
2 [21] T.Bayliss Ducati 999 F07 1'37.654 1'36.986 23 0.305
3 [52] J.Toseland Honda CBR1000RR 1'37.628 1'37.628 25 0.947
4 [41] N.Haga Yamaha YZF-R1 1'37.875 21 1.194
5 [55] R.Laconi Kawasaki ZX-10R PIT IN 1'37.914 19 1.233
6 [111] R.Xaus Ducati 999 F06 1'38.016 1'37.955 20 1.274
7 [71] Y.Kagayama Suzuki GSX-R1000 K7 1'39.817 1'38.085 26 1.404
8 [44] R.Rolfo Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.108 1'38.108 27 1.427
9 [84] M.Fabrizio Honda CBR1000RR 1'46.000 1'38.155 26 1.474
10 [3] M.Biaggi Suzuki GSX-R1000 K7 1'38.232 1'38.232 27 1.551
11 [20] M.Borciani Ducati 999 F06 1'39.685 1'38.393 16 1.712
12 [57] L.Lanzi Ducati 999 F07 1'39.001 1'38.541 20 1.860
13 [92] M.Sanchini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'38.871 1'38.871 19 2.190
14 [10] F.Nieto Kawasaki ZX-10R PIT IN 1'39.753 23 3.072
15 [34] L.Conforti Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.932 1'39.808 23 3.127
16 [76] M.Neukirchner Suzuki GSX-R1000 K6 1'40.011 1'39.851 28 3.170
17 [38] S.Nakatomi Yamaha YZF-R1 1'40.938 1'40.187 25 3.506
18 [22] L.Morelli Honda CBR1000RR 1'51.188 1'40.924 22 4.243
19 [53] A.Polita Suzuki GSX-R1000 K6 PIT IN 1'41.146 21 4.465
20 [96] J.Smrz Ducati 999 F05 1'52.883 1'41.387 24 4.706
21 [73] C.Zaiser MV Agusta F4 312 R PIT IN 1'41.984 16 5.303
22 [42] D.Ellison Ducati 999RS 1'43.516 1'43.516 27 6.835


Corser and Bayliss are much faster than the rest of the field, with Haga and Toseland climbing up at the death to grab 3rd and 4th. Kagayama and Fabrizio were 3rd and 4th for a long time but got shuffled down in the final rush.

[tha_jackal]

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[tha_jackal]

WSS QP1:

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.396 20
2 [18] C.Jones Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.397 19 0.001
3 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.461 16 0.065
4 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.548 14 0.152
5 [7] P.Riba Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.673 16 0.277
6 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.905 17 0.509
7 [4] L.Alfonsi Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.930 20 0.534
8 [32] Y.Tiberio Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.944 17 0.548
9 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.970 18 0.574
10 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.975 17 0.579
11 [94] D.Checa Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'41.007 22 0.611
12 [9] F.Foret Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'41.140 19 0.744
13 [26] J.Lascorz Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.147 20 0.751
14 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'41.231 18 0.835
15 [127] R.Harms Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.263 19 0.867
16 [45] G.Vizziello Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'41.263 18 0.867
17 [35] G.Boccolini Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'41.277 22 0.881
18 [112] S.Cruciani Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.299 15 0.903
19 [81] M.Lagrive Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.478 15 1.082

GOooooo Westy, provisional pole by a thousandth! Two Aussies and a Brit in the top three..

[Corny]

where is Veneman?

[tha_jackal]

WSS FP2:

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.381 22
2 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.506 21 0.125
3 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.660 21 0.279
4 [9] F.Foret Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'39.708 22 0.327
5 [94] D.Checa Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.851 15 0.470
6 [18] C.Jones Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.920 21 0.539
7 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.956 19 0.575
8 [116] S.Sanna Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.035 21 0.654
9 [44] D.Salom Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.058 21 0.677
10 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.063 20 0.682
11 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.099 16 0.718
12 [7] P.Riba Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.350 13 0.969
13 [35] G.Boccolini Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.353 23 0.972
14 [34] D.Giugliano Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.405 19 1.024
15 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.442 19 1.061

And the trend continues :up:

[NinjaMaster]

where is Veneman?
He's sucking at the moment. Down in 22nd.

[NinjaMaster]

Don't think I could want a better top 3. :up:

WSS final qualifying.

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.156 35
2 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.311 38 0.155
3 [9] F.Foret Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'39.376 39 0.220
4 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.411 34 0.255
5 [18] C.Jones Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.533 39 0.377
6 [116] S.Sanna Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.613 40 0.457
7 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.694 35 0.538
8 [7] P.Riba Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'39.715 33 0.559
9 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.753 22 0.597
10 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.850 37 0.694
11 [127] R.Harms Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.868 37 0.712
12 [45] G.Vizziello Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.890 37 0.734
13 [32] Y.Tiberio Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.926 36 0.770
14 [44] D.Salom Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.976 34 0.820
15 [112] S.Cruciani Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.061 31 0.905
16 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.215 35 1.059
17 [34] D.Giugliano Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.229 31 1.073
18 [81] M.Lagrive Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.244 34 1.088
19 [4] L.Alfonsi Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.346 39 1.190
20 [26] J.Lascorz Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.346 41 1.190
21 [77] B.Veneman Suzuki GSX-R600 PIT IN 1'40.457 32 1.301
22 [35] G.Boccolini Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.487 43 1.331
23 [31] V.Kallio Suzuki GSX-R600 PIT IN 1'40.500 37 1.344
24 [194] S.Gimbert Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.567 37 1.411
25 [60] V.Ivanov Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.698 34 1.542
26 [94] D.Checa Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.736 43 1.580
27 [37] W.De Angelis Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.177 34 2.021
28 [38] G.Leblanc Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.403 36 2.247
29 [80] A.Brannetti Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'41.442 40 2.286
30 [17] M.Praia Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'41.520 39 2.364
31 [73] Y.Polzer Ducati 749R PIT IN 1'42.448 36 3.292
32 [46] J.G� Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'42.458 38 3.302
33 [196] S.Hommel Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'42.580 43 3.424
34 [169] J.Enjolras Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'42.729 37 3.573
35 [100] A.Brugnoni Ducati 749R PIT IN 1'43.600 34 4.444
36 [39] D.Forner Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'43.858 37 4.702
37 [88] G.Talmacsi Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'45.175 37 6.019

[tha_jackal]

WSS QP2:

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.156 35
2 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.311 38 0.155
3 [9] F.Foret Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'39.376 39 0.220
4 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.411 34 0.255
5 [18] C.Jones Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.533 39 0.377
6 [116] S.Sanna Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.613 40 0.457
7 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.694 35 0.538
8 [7] P.Riba Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'39.715 33 0.559
9 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.753 22 0.597
10 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.850 37 0.694
11 [127] R.Harms Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.868 37 0.712
12 [45] G.Vizziello Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.890 37 0.734
13 [32] Y.Tiberio Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.926 36 0.770
14 [44] D.Salom Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.976 34 0.820
15 [112] S.Cruciani Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.061 31 0.905
16 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.215 35 1.059

Broc got pole with a scorcher and an Aussie one-two! Nice boys, Westy looking good for the race having lead every session, bar this one... Cant wait! Chapentier had a crash after being around third, dont think he did another lap :confused: Veneman = 21st, Kallio 23rd :eek: Zooks struggling!

[Corny]

that West is kicking Sofuoglu's ass so far!

[osg]

Race 1 to Bayliss...... C'mon Troy, only 36 points to get Toseland now.


1 Bayliss T. Ducati Xerox Team. Ducati 999 F07 38'52.856 24
2 Corser T. Yamaha Motor Italia. Yamaha YZF-R1 38'55.230 24
3 Kagayama Y. Alstare Suzuki Corona Extra. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K7 39'01.821 24
4 Toseland J. Hannspree Ten Kate Honda. Honda CBR1000RR 39'03.966 24
5 Rolfo R. Hannspree Ten Kate Honda. Honda CBR1000RR 39'11.565 24
6 Lanzi L. Ducati Xerox Team. Ducati 999 F07 39'13.323 24
7 Laconi R. Kawasaki PSG-1 Corse. Kawasaki ZX-10R 39'14.928 24
8 Xaus R. Team Sterilgarda. Ducati 999 F06 39'18.280 24
9 Neukirchner M. Suzuki Germany. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K6 39'23.747 24
10 Smrz J. Team Caracchi Ducati SC. Ducati 999 F05 39'30.580 24
11 Borciani M. Team Sterilgarda. Ducati 999 F06 39'37.754 24
12 Sanchini M. Kawasaki PSG-1 Corse. Kawasaki ZX-10R 39'54.394 24
13 Morelli L. D.F.X. Corse. Honda CBR1000RR 40'30.637 24
14 Ellison D. Team Pedercini. Ducati 999RS 39'25.479 23
15 Zaiser C. LBR Racing Team. MV Agusta F4 312 R 39'32.622 23
16 Haga N. Yamaha Motor Italia. Yamaha YZF-R1 33'58.160 21
17 Biaggi M. Alstare Suzuki Corona Extra. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K7 33'58.690 21
18 Nieto F. Kawasaki PSG-1 Corse. Kawasaki ZX-10R 23'45.406 14
19 Conforti L. Emmebi Team. Honda CBR1000RR 16'43.564 10
20 Nakatomi S. Yamaha YZF. Yamaha YZF-R1 9'58.084 6
21 Polita A. Celani Team Suzuki Italia. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K6 8'26.296 5
22 Fabrizio M. D.F.X. Corse. Honda CBR1000RR 6'50.779 4

[tha_jackal]

Race 1 to Bayliss...... C'mon Troy, only 36 points to get Toseland now.

Yer, shame Biaggi and Haga crashed, woulda been less points otherwise! :p

[tha_jackal]

Goooooo Ant, good stuff, 4 seconds clear of the field and also great stuff by Parkesy too taking some points away from Snufalufagus :p :D

Pos. Rider Bike Last Lap Best Lap Laps Gap
1 [14] A.West Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.109 22
2 [23] B.Parkes Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.266 22 4.197
3 [54] K.Sofuoglu Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.270 22 4.340
4 [55] M.Roccoli Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'39.965 22 15.123
5 [127] R.Harms Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.848 22 18.429
6 [116] S.Sanna Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.137 22 18.741
7 [12] J.Fores Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.155 22 18.915
8 [21] K.Fujiwara Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.140 22 25.082
9 [45] G.Vizziello Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.316 22 30.240
10 [16] S.Charpentier Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.225 22 31.633
11 [32] Y.Tiberio Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'40.737 22 32.743
12 [81] M.Lagrive Honda CBR600RR PIT IN 1'39.979 22 33.093
13 [77] B.Veneman Suzuki GSX-R600 PIT IN 1'40.257 22 33.592
14 [194] S.Gimbert Yamaha YZF-R6 PIT IN 1'40.467 22 35.678
15 [35] G.Boccolini Kawasaki ZX-6R PIT IN 1'40.779 22 37.193

[The Phantom]

Great racing. Aussies did ok : )

What a shame about Biaggi/Haga in race 1. I have to agree with Kevin McGee's assessment that Biaggi was probably on a trajectory into the gravel well before he hit Haga.

And in WSS, when Foret tried to pass Smith and Smith came back - he too was on his way into the gravel when he collided with Foret, and the collision actually helped him stay on the track. Felt sorry for Foret over that one (and that's not something I feel too often!). I think it was bad riding by Smith to do that.

[Mach24]

Great round for the championship fight, Bayliss moves to within 21 points of Toseland with Haga only 5 further back with five rounds remaining.

What a shame Haga was taken from race 1 as the points would have tightened the championship no end.

Now we will start to see the true fighting spirit of Toseland with a proven fighter in Bayliss on his tail.

I don't think Haga can be discounted either as his form has been red-hot and best of all consistent.

What a tantalising finish to the 2007 championship we have ahead.

[tha_jackal]

Great racing. Aussies did ok : )

What a shame about Biaggi/Haga in race 1. I have to agree with Kevin McGee's assessment that Biaggi was probably on a trajectory into the gravel well before he hit Haga.

And in WSS, when Foret tried to pass Smith and Smith came back - he too was on his way into the gravel when he collided with Foret, and the collision actually helped him stay on the track. Felt sorry for Foret over that one (and that's not something I feel too often!). I think it was bad riding by Smith to do that.

Smith, Jones, same sh*t! :D

[The Phantom]

Oops : )

Bradley Jones, not Bradley Smith...

[tha_jackal]

Oops : )

Bradley Jones, not Bradley Smith...

:D :D Still not quite right, Bradley Smith = 125cc .. Craig Jones = WSS :p

[osg]

Now we will start to see the true fighting spirit of Toseland with a proven fighter in Bayliss on his tail.



Hmmmm........... i honestly don't think he has any. Bayliss has done this time and time again, i reckon Toseland will crack. We will see though.

[Mach24]

Hmmmm........... i honestly don't think he has any. Bayliss has done this time and time again, i reckon Toseland will crack. We will see though.

osg, I reckon Tosser has improved the last couple of years, but I have a feeling if his machinery leaves him under the pump he will struggle big time.

I'm sure Honda want this championship bad, coz they ain't gonna retain number 1 in MotoGP. So expect some serious support from Japan.

Biaggi taking out Nori cost Nori at least 20 points and me a large contribution to the swear jar. :mad: :angryfire . OK, I'm over it now. On to Brno!

[Lanky_Wes]

Biaggi taking out Nori cost Nori at least 20 points and me a large contribution to the swear jar. :mad: :angryfire . OK, I'm over it now. On to Brno!
Yeah, then damn Jones compounded the problem by taking out Foret. :down: Not happy, at least til the Yamaha boys finished first and second. :)
On Toseland, I'd give him a bit more time before questioning his fighting abilities. He had a crash at the last round in horrible conditions but managed to salvage an impressive 8th. Then his team made the mistake of not testing at Misano where they couldn't get the right settings. He's a racer and he'll keep Bayliss and Haga honest.
Nice to see Kagayama's return to form and I think he'll give some of the top guys the hurry-up at some of the upcoming rounds. Also, Roby Rolfo has been quietly improving as the year progresses and starting to justify his place. He'll get a few podiums by the end I reckon.
The series is heating up nicely. :up:

[NinjaMaster]

Biaggi taking out Nori cost Nori at least 20 points and me a large contribution to the swear jar. . OK, I'm over it now. On to Brno!

Yeah, then damn Jones compounded the problem by taking out Foret. :down: Not happy, at least til the Yamaha boys finished first and second. :)

On Toseland, I'd give him a bit more time before questioning his fighting abilities. He had a crash at the last round in horrible conditions but managed to salvage an impressive 8th. Then his team made the mistake of not testing at Misano where they couldn't get the right settings. He's a racer and he'll keep Bayliss and Haga honest.

Nice to see Kagayama's return to form and I think he'll give some of the top guys the hurry-up at some of the upcoming rounds. Also, Roby Rolfo has been quietly improving as the year progresses and starting to justify his place. He'll get a few podiums by the end I reckon.

The series is heating up nicely. :up:

[osg]

osg, I reckon Tosser has improved the last couple of years, but I have a feeling if his machinery leaves him under the pump he will struggle big time.

I'm sure Honda want this championship bad, coz they ain't gonna retain number 1 in MotoGP. So expect some serious support from Japan.

hmm........... good rider no doubt, i agree totally what you say about the bike though, i have a funny feeling he's gonna struggle setup wise somewhere in the next few rounds, and it may just cost him the title, cos once Bayliss gets his nose in front..... well he's near impssible to contain.

[osg]

Biaggi taking out Nori cost Nori at least 20 points and me a large contribution to the swear jar. :mad: :angryfire . OK, I'm over it now. On to Brno!

Thats Max for you chac.......... hasn't changed one bit. And i wouldn't mind a small wager he attempted to place the blame on Nori as well! :rolleyes:

[NinjaMaster]

Thats Max for you chac.......... hasn't changed one bit. And i wouldn't mind a small wager he attempted to place the blame on Nori as well! :rolleyes:
He said that Nori came across him and took his line. "Perhaps he didn't see me?" he said. Umm, probably not til you took his front wheel Max! :rolleyes:

[osg]

He said that Nori came across him and took his line. "Perhaps he didn't see me?" he said. Umm, probably not til you took his front wheel Max! :rolleyes:

aha!!!!!!!! my $$ are safe Ninja!!!!!!! God he's a ****er of the highest degree is Maximus.

[The Phantom]

:D :D Still not quite right, Bradley Smith = 125cc .. Craig Jones = WSS :p

ARRRRGGGHHHH...

See what happens when you throw a couple of Caucs in with all those "no vowels and 4 syllables" surnames...

I'm *thinking* Bayliss for the title, but I'm *hoping* it will be Toseland. If only because I think he got rogered by Ducati after he took the 2004 title and sometimes Ducati needs a poke in the eye (like Bayliss did when he took the last MotoGP race out last year).

[NinjaMaster]

I'm *thinking* Bayliss for the title, but I'm *hoping* it will be Toseland. If only because I think he got rogered by Ducati after he took the 2004 title and sometimes Ducati needs a poke in the eye (like Bayliss did when he took the last MotoGP race out last year).

Thats a very interesting angle on Toseland there that I hadn't really thought of. His title defence was pretty pathetic but you would like to think that winning a title for them counted for a little more loyalty than he received. It would have been great to see Troy and James going head-to-head on equal machinery. Having said that, I think he has really prospered in a team that focuses on him and it would be good to see him win (though I can't barrack against Bayliss) and have a crack at MotoGP having conquered WSB.

[The Phantom]

I reckon if Bayliss beats Toseland for the title it will be difficult for Toseland to make a comfortable move to MotoGP - after all, if a MotoGP cast-off beats you for the title, how are you going to go against the guys that repeatedly beat him???

But then again, if he was to stay in WSB following a defeat to Bayliss, he'd then be up against a 1098 with a Bayliss in the seat. Would be a morale sapping experience either way...

[tha_jackal]

I reckon if Bayliss beats Toseland for the title it will be difficult for Toseland to make a comfortable move to MotoGP - after all, if a MotoGP cast-off beats you for the title, how are you going to go against the guys that repeatedly beat him???

But then again, if he was to stay in WSB following a defeat to Bayliss, he'd then be up against a 1098 with a Bayliss in the seat. Would be a morale sapping experience either way...

Some good points there mate, Tose REALLY has to buck up now and fight like a champion and proove his worth to the the world of MotoGP. Honestly, if he is hunted down and beaten to the title by Bayliss it will damage his acclaim a fair bit. Im pretty sure a WorldSBK title will guarantee Jimmy a ride with a Honda team in GP's, thats what he wants, Honda are on the way up and by 08 they will be back as a swarm towards the front end of the field.

Although, contrary to that rambling, ive also heard Honda are eager for Toseland to stay in SBK and keep winning them titles, maybe he'll need to take another avenue into GPs. Either way, he has a tough slog ahead of him.

[The Phantom]

Although, contrary to that rambling, ive also heard Honda are eager for Toseland to stay in SBK and keep winning them titles, maybe he'll need to take another avenue into GPs. Either way, he has a tough slog ahead of him.

They'd have been disappointed to have lost Vermeulen to MotoGP when he was at peak WSB form.

Rolfo needs to get on it and give Toseland some support, too - else he'll also be looking elsewhere for 2008.

[NinjaMaster]

I heard that Honda were keen to keep JT in WSB too, Jake. Like Chris the V, James isn't too keen on that. And you're right about Rolfo too Phantom. I reckon he is slowly coming to grips with the Fireblade and he could well have a substantial say in the way the championship pans out as the season goes on.

[Mach24]

He said that Nori came across him and took his line. "Perhaps he didn't see me?" he said. Umm, probably not til you took his front wheel Max! :rolleyes:

Biaggi, nice guy after all.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18062007/58/misano-biaggi-apologises-haga-crash.html

[NinjaMaster]

Yeah I read that too Mach. Better late than never I guess. He still put the blame on Nori first but perhaps he saw it replayed and it opened his eyes.

[Mach24]

At the least having Max around has spiced up the championship a little. I'm sure Nori would agree.