BP Ultimate Acropolis Rally

[Peugeot206WRC]

On thursday its time for the 54th Rally Acropolis so why not start the thread now.

I see some interesting drivers in the A8 class, like last year, but now we'll see Aava, Wilks, Ostbeg and Al Qassimi (who I have no idea of who he is).
Havent followed this rally so much before, but this year could be very good thinking of how the overall standings look like at the moment before the summer break.
Also noticed that is been five different winners last five years in this rally.

I tried gather some useful links for this rally, if you got anymore please post.

Rally Greece official site (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/)
Entry list (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/entries-iframe.php?page=entries)
WRC Split times (http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/) (not sure if it will still work this round?)

[alleskids]

So, who will replace Carlsoon in the OMV Kronos Xsara, and will Al Qassimi finally show up ? And will Duval indeed drive the raly ?

[GigiGalliNo1]

yay we begin!

[Peugeot206WRC]

I dont think there will be a replacer for Carlsson in this rally.
As I understood Kronos will pay for Carlssons starting fee but dont need to have another driver in this rally.
Nice to see Duval again, even though theres a high risk he crash or if not I dont think he will be any competetive in the Fabia :(

[J.Lindstroem]

I dont think there will be a replacer for Carlsson in this rally.
As I understood Kronos will pay for Carlssons starting fee but dont need to have another driver in this rally.
Nice to see Duval again, even though theres a high risk he crash or if not I dont think he will be any competetive in the Fabia :(

Didn't First cancel Duval´s partipation? Hope i'm wrong, it whould be nice to see him again!

[atsiotras79]

Yes, It is Acropolis week, and I cannot wait until Wednesday to make the trip to Athens.
I really hope that all drivers show up!!!

[Krigen]

Mads Østberg will not compete in Acropolis.. He will replace it with a asphalt rally later in the season. The Acropolis is too much of a car breaker is the reason

[Simmi]

It's a shame these guys can't get budgets together. It's tantalising to see them on the entry list then for them to never appear. I hope to see Ostberg in Ireland.

[N.O.T]

The worst Acropolis rally from every point of view awaits (Entries, stages...)......hope its competitive at least.

[padWRC]

Aris Vovos/El Em test with Aimonts Subaru S11 near Korinthos:

http://www.rally.gr/default.asp?menu_code=main-article&race_id=500&article_id=12419

[padWRC]

..and the second Aimont car a N12 for Lambros Athanasoulas/Nikos Zakchaios

http://www.rally.gr/default.asp?menu_code=main-article&article_id=12420&race_id=0

[ste898]

Yes lets hope its competitive and not a Loeb/Citroen parade!!!!

[StevieWonder]

does anybody know a good place to on ss10 - agii theodori ?

would it be possible to look at the cars twice at kilometre 22 and 42.74 ???

p.s. duval will really start acropolis - http://www.fduval.com

[TKM]

The Acropolis is too much of a car breaker ...
Then Subaru better stay at home :D

[CDL_wrc]

For Stevie and all who may concern,
the official link for the "intermediate access routes" for all special stages.
In Adobe Acrobat (pdf) format.

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?cat_id=40&page_id=938


Hope it will be helpful...

[pino]

Moving Acropolis near Athens was a bad idea, I will miss the old stages, hopefully we will see a great fight with a new winner ;)

[kleisj]

Moving Acropolis near Athens was a bad idea, I will miss the old stages, hopefully we will see a great fight with a new winner ;)

Well this is a matter for which lots of discussions took place in Greece. I know for certain that many fans will miss traditional stages like Elateia, Voxites etc. But from the other side the infrastructure of the hospitality of the whole event is much better in the Attica area.

Due to heavy rains the last 3 days I think that many stages will be muddy. Also the spectators routes leading to the SS may have probs. We ll see.

[kleisj]

Any forum member coming?

[jonkka]

I'd like some confirmations about crew identities.

Does anyone know real name for "Vas", co-driver at #76?
Also, I wonder if his driver Panayiotis Zissis is the same fellow whom with "Vas" drove in 2006 under alias "Panos"?

[harriswrc]

I'd like some confirmations about crew identities.

Does anyone know real name for "Vas", co-driver at #76?
Also, I wonder if his driver Panayiotis Zissis is the same fellow whom with "Vas" drove in 2006 under alias "Panos"?"Vas" real name is Vassilis Zissis and he is the father of the driver. "Panos" is Panagiotis Zissis and he is the son.

[jonkka]

Thank you, Harriswrc! Very fast service indeed.

[hari]

Any forum member coming?

Yes, I'm flying tomorrow morning down to Athens to my first Rally Akropolis.
So I'm really looking forward to it and hope we will see some good action.

[Le NaRcX]

will run Gardemeister?

[harriswrc]

will run Gardemeister?Gardemeister will not start the rally.

[Le NaRcX]

Gardemeister will not start the rally.

Then, only one Mitsubishi WRC will start the rally?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Al Quassimi?

[Timole]

Then, only one Mitsubishi WRC will start the rally?

Urmo Aava and Kuldar Sikk will make their first start with Mitsubishi WRC car in championships. Does anybody know why Tony isn´t starting?

[padWRC]

Al Quassimi?

No money ,no show!

[padWRC]

Any forum member coming?

a lot .......

I will be there!!!

[padWRC]

Will not start:
6. Carlsson
14. Gardemeister
22. Ostberg
20. Al Qassimi
64. Papadimitriou
66. Gikas

[Le NaRcX]

Then if Gardemeister not start why he says:

14 GARDEMEISTER Toni / HONKANEN Jakke
“It was quite muddy today, but if it gets dry roads will be OK. I think that they are not going to be rougher than last year’s.”

during the recces?

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?cat_id=43&page_id=1001

[SubaruNorway]

Henning on recce http://www.vgb.no/6339/

[Simmi]

Does anyone know the name of the shakedown stage this year? It wont let people view the rally guide without clearance on the Acropolis site.

[Kakuke]

Any forum member coming?
I will

[hari]

Does anyone know the name of the shakedown stage this year? It wont let people view the rally guide without clearance on the Acropolis site.

Its "KOUVARAS" - 2.51 km

[Simmi]

Its "KOUVARAS" - 2.51 km

Thanks for the info Hari much appreciated.

[StevieWonder]

will also be there - with a friend of mine.

if you can see to people (most of the time with mikko-fanclub-shirts) and a big finnish-austrian flag - just ask for StevieWonder.

[Glee]

Will not start:
6. Carlsson
14. Gardemeister
22. Ostberg
20. Al Qassimi
64. Papadimitriou
66. Gikas

Could someone give me a confirmation on Gardemeister's status, I want to make my pickems

[Josti]

Likewise Glee...

And why is Papadimitriou not starting? He's doing this rally for years now.

[Jaanus]

Toni with his co-driver Jakke Honkanen does not enter WRC Greece. He will do the recce for next season. However there are active negotiations going on for his next WRC event.

http://www.tonigardemeister.com/news.php

[jonas_mcrae]

Henning on recce http://www.vgb.no/6339/

It does look mudy! by the way i put garde in my pickems what will happen with that? just loose the points?

[jso1985]

yep, you miss the chance of scoring a perfect round.

a big shame again Garde can't compete :down: .

[harriswrc]

Urmo Aava and Kuldar Sikk will make their first start with Mitsubishi WRC car in championships. Does anybody know why Tony isn´t starting?Aava is not sure that will start, because he had problems with his Lancer (maybe a crash in the test?). Mitsubishi team try to bring a new one from England. Hope they will find a solution and he will compete.

[Jaanus]

It does look mudy! by the way i put garde in my pickems what will happen with that? just loose the points?

Quote from the pickems thread:
To amend your picks, make a new entry using the Pickem Entry link - do not edit your original entry.

[Jaanus]

Urmo Aava crashed his Lancer WRC on Monday afternoon and the front right took the blow. The bad thing is that the roll cage is damaged and it can not be repaired in time, but MMSP has acted like professionals and will bring a new car(the same car Toni was supposed to drive here and drove in Italy) for him and it will arrive midday of Thursday and Aava will start the rally.

http://www.rally.gr/default.asp?menu_code=main-article&article_id=12428&race_id=500

[harriswrc]

Any forum member coming?I am going there tonight! See you all there!

[jonas_mcrae]

Urmo Aava crashed his Lancer WRC on Monday afternoon and the front right took the blow. The bad thing is that the roll cage is damaged and it can not be repaired in time, but MMSP has acted like professionals and will bring a new car(the same car Toni was supposed to drive here and drove in Italy) for him and it will arrive midday of Thursday and Aava will start the rally.

http://www.rally.gr/default.asp?menu_code=main-article&article_id=12428&race_id=500

hey thats great news

[User]

Does somebody know with which car Duval does Recce?

[HaCo]

Does somebody know with which car Duval does Recce?

With his bike to save money maybe? :D

[User]

Kopecky does it with a Octavia RS, so I assume Duval to.

Of waarom krijgt ie anders geld van Skoda Belgium :P

[kleisj]

I wanted to propose for foreign and domestic forum members who will be attending the rally if you want to meet up in the service park on Saturday or Sunday.
Anyway whoever needs any info or help please feel free to contact. Send me a pm and I will send my contact phone.

Unfortunately for me, I will be able to go to attend the stages from Saturday since Thursday and Friday I have work issues which will keep me away!http://img117.exs.cx/img117/6721/o4fsad.gif

I hope we all will enjoy a nice competitive rally and safe from spectators point of view! http://img104.exs.cx/img104/6503/wink9qa.gif

[HaCo]

Of waarom krijgt ie anders geld van Skoda Belgium :P

Maybe a nice green bike... ;)

[CABAIO E'LONA]

start the shakedown...

[txl]

Live results from shakedown anywhere?

[Roy]

Cars who not driving
http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?cat_id=43&page_id=1025

Cars enters in seeded order. (Scrap some cars, see link above.)
http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?page=entries

[Viking]

From official webpage:

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?cat_id=43&page_id=1028

Petter Solberg sets the fastest time in this morning shakedown, with time of 1:42.7. Second was Jari Matti Latvala with time 1:43.3 and Henning Solberg third just 0.2 sec slower. The shakedown was a typical example of the Acropolis stages, with a lot of heat and dust.

[padWRC]

Vovos and Athanasoulas test Video
http://www.grfree.gr/details.php?id=1426

[padWRC]

Walter Roehrl about Akropolis:

http://www.grfree.gr/details.php?id=1424

[Dilek]

Acropolis Shaedown result

1.Petter Solberg 1:42.7
2.Jari Matti Latvala 1:43.3
3.Henning Solberg 1:43.5

Comment

1 LOEB Sebastien / ELENA Daniel
“We had a problem with the clutch but fixed it. We also made some changes in the car. No problems.”

2 SORDO Daniel / MARTI Marc
“The car is exactly the same as in Sardinia-we only made some small changes to the suspension.”

3 GRONHOLM Marcus / RAUTIAINEN Timo
“We made small changes in the car. Everything is ok. About the rally, the roads are in good condition. It was muddy in the recce, but I think it will be dry tomorrow. In S.S. Agia Sotira, we want to avoid punctures.”

4 HIRVONEN Mikko / LEHTINEN Jarmo
“Everything is ok, no problem. It’s going to be a big fight and I’ll try to win, so I’ll push hard.”

5 STOHL Manfred / Ms MINOR Ilka
“It’s a very hard race for the cars and the tires. We hope the weather to be like today.”

7 SOLBERG Petter / MILLS Philip
“The car will be almost the same with the last race. Only some very small changes, small details all the time, no big changes.”

8 ATKINSON Chris / PREVOT Stephane
“We’ve made some changes in the suspension, everything ok.”

9 LATVALA Jari Matti / ANTTILA Miika
“Now we have a different set up, we adjust higher the front of the car. We had also a sensor failure.”

10 SOLBERG Henning / MENKERUD Cato
“The shakedown was ok. It was a good stage and I am satisfied with my time. It’s a long weekend.”

[Jaanus]

Urmo Aava Lancer WRC has arrived during the night and is ready to start the rally:

http://www.postimees.ee/foto/8/0/100508465eb227c88d7_3.jpg

[A.F.F.]

Tere Urmo :wave:

[Viking]

SD times in Hennings blogg:

http://www.vgb.no/6339

[Timole]

hello
Great to see Urmo in Greece with WRC car! Hope he´ll have a good rally and of course Martin and Kristo in PWRC series!

[jonkka]

hello
Great to see Urmo in Greece with WRC car! Hope he´ll have a good rally and of course Martin and Kristo in PWRC series!

What car Rauam is in? Entry list doesn't say.

[Timole]

What car Rauam is in? Entry list doesn't say.

Mitsubishi EVO 9 as he has been in previous rallies. Shakedown times for Martin and Kristo were also good.

[jonkka]

Thanks, Timole

[Timole]

Thanks, Timole
You´re welcome.

[ZequeArgentina]

Am I wrong or first superspecial is starting at this moment ? (yeah I know,a very uninteresting mickey mouse stage)

[DonJippo]

Yes it's live on TV.

[ZequeArgentina]

Live only on Tv or also in internet (other than paid WRC+)?
I see Kopecky 7,9 s faster than Aava (only 2 for the moment)

[ZequeArgentina]

BF goodrich site unfortunately not showing results (I am in greece rally official site)

[jonas_mcrae]

ups Aava +21s !

[Jaanus]

Urmo had a spin, he was clearly faster than Kopecky at first split.

[jonkka]

Where is Villagra?

[pantealex]

Villagras startposition today is 17

[ZequeArgentina]

Where is Villagra?

I hope that running after Loeb vs Gronholm

[jonkka]

Villagras startposition today is 17

And in reversed running order (as in SSS), he should have already run.

[jonkka]

What is the gap, results come every 10 minutes... or is it wrc.com again?

[ZequeArgentina]

nope, only first 16 in reverse order. he is comming now (after Loeb vs Gro)

[ZequeArgentina]

here are results so far:

Stage results
1 M. HIRVONEN 2:50.8
2 M. GRÖNHOLM +0.2
3 S. LOEB +0.3
4 P. SOLBERG +0.4
5 D. SORDO +0.5
6 H. SOLBERG +1.8
7 C. ATKINSON +2.3
8 J. LATVALA +2.5
9 M. WILSON +5.7
10 M. STOHL +5.7
11 F. DUVAL +7.3
12 L. PEREZ COMPANC +7.6
13 G. WILKS +11.4
14 A. VOVOS +11.6
15 J. KOPECKY +16.1
16 U. AAVA +24.0

[jonkka]

16 drivers through and no sign of Villagra?

EDIT (following Zeq's comment): good!!!

[pantealex]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/common/pdf/leg1start_a.pdf List of startpositions fos SSS

[jonkka]

Mikko takes early lead... he is making a habit out of it? :eek:

[White Sauron]

Wow... Villagra impressive)

[mdesign]

great time for armindo :) :) :)

[Skiptracer]

great time for armindo :) :) :)

You bet! And don't forget that the last time he sat on the Gr. N Mitsubishi was on Sweden. :)

[pantealex]

Running order for friday http://www.acropolisrally.gr/common/pdf/leg1start_b.pdf

[Timole]

Great time for Martin aswell!

[COD]

The TV footage from the stage was really crappy, really poor camerawork and directing. Also almost no sound of the cars could be heard. And it looked like there was no spectators, although I heard there were

[COD]

BTW, Will McShea or TACK team get a penalty for not entering Greece, or have they changed their PWRC entry to some other event with FIA's approval?

[pentti]

The TV footage from the stage was really crappy, really poor camerawork and directing. Also almost no sound of the cars could be heard. And it looked like there was no spectators, although I heard there wereI agree. 12.000 spectators I hear and it was sold out.

[Simon Speichert]

BTW, Will McShea or TACK team get a penalty for not entering Greece, or have they changed their PWRC entry to some other event with FIA's approval?

Such talk of penalties!

I thought the only reason Carlsson got penalized was because he was entered as part of an M2 team - for the whole season. Can't see a reason McShea would be penalized.

[ST205GT4]

Atko lost 2.3 secs in 3.2kms. Not a very auspicious start. Extrapolate that for the rest of the rally and you're very uncompetitive. And that's assuming no mechanicals or off road incidents.

Come on Atko, you need a decent result mate!

Have to admit I'm starting to fear for Chris's chances of continuing with Subaru unless he starts pulling some results.

[jonkka]

Such talk of penalties!

I thought the only reason Carlsson got penalized was because he was entered as part of an M2 team - for the whole season. Can't see a reason McShea would be penalized.

PWRC drivers must nominate their rallies beforehand and missing one is a place for penalty as per rules. Same goes for JWRC drivers and M1/M2 teams. All championships.

[jonkka]

SS2, anyone?

[White Sauron]

rally started, didn't it?

[jonkka]

Should have, at least.

[bennizw]

The rally has started yes, live on vg.no. Has anyone got the link to the other split site? zone.ee isn't activate.

[White Sauron]

Finally! This works!^ http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=&stage=2&rally=Greece

[White Sauron]

Wow!!! Loeb "impressive",,,

[bennizw]

Thanks :) I nice way of using my preperation day for my media exam!

[FAlonso]

http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=&stage=2&rally=Greece

Should work.

[bennizw]

Not impressed by Loeb's time. A possible problem, or just a lack of confidence from Sardinia? He really has to win this weekend to claw back some points from Grönholm. Not that I'm hoping for this.....

[jonkka]

Hmmm... :eek:

[White Sauron]

Not impressed by Loeb's time. A possible problem, or just a lack of confidence from Sardinia? He really has to win this weekend to claw back some points from Grönholm. Not that I'm hoping for this.....

Just a spin, I suppose. because he lost much time only at one section.

[bennizw]

Loeb has banged his steering rod slightly, he doesn't know if he will be able to complete the first loop of stages.

[White Sauron]

Is it wet on the stage? Just seems the front runners now have an advantage.

[Timole]

Good to see a reasnoble time for Petter

[bennizw]

And the problems should start for him around SS4 times I should expect :p :

[janneppi]

Loeb has banged his steering rod slightly, he doesn't know if he will be able to complete the first loop of stages.
It's all A.F.F's fault, he's propably put Loeb to win again in the pickems. :p :

[bennizw]

Oh, that was really just a joke, to see if I could rise the interest and average posts per minute, but it seems that the interest for the WRC is sunken under ground level now, and I don't blame it. Bring back the golden days of the 90's or even the good start of the 21st century with 2000 and 2001. That was the two last good years of the WRC IMO. In 2001 there were won rallies by five different manufactors, last year only two. It says it all.

[Peugeot206WRC]

Oh, that was really just a joke, to see if I could rise the interest and average posts per minute

haha, great


Why isnt Duval in the split times window?

[barazal]

Benni, the joke was over Loeb or over Solberg?????

[animrallye]

Why isnt Duval in the split times window?
No GPS tracking for him.

[bennizw]

The joke was over Loeb ;) I guess Duval's times aren't good enough to take part in the split system :p :

[barazal]

Ohhh, ok. I must rectificate in another place.

[Mauri A]

Krisse Sohlberg out?

[Timole]

No time for krisse jeah!

[jonkka]

Loeb found his lost speed

[Peugeot206WRC]

The joke was over Loeb ;) I guess Duval's times aren't good enough to take part in the split system :p :

haha, that dont make sense, according to my calculates hes usually faster then Kopecky, Wilson and Perez Companc.
I stick to animerally's answer, they probably dont want to waste a GPS in a car that will crash and probably destroy the GPS.

[COD]

Loeb found his lost speed

So it seems. Maybe he has found a rock to repair the steering a'la McRae

[animrallye]

haha, that dont make sense, according to my calculates hes usually faster then Kopecky, Wilson and Perez Companc.
I stick to animerally's answer, they probably dont want to waste a GPS in a car that will crash and probably destroy the GPS.
May be GPS is too expensive for his budget :p :

[jonkka]

So it seems. Maybe he has found a rock to repair the steering a'la McRae

That "steering problem" was benni's joke

[jonkka]

Latvala in problems :eek:

[bennizw]

Oh, what a great joke it was ;)

[jonkka]

Nah, just had a slow start for the stage

[COD]

Latvala in problems :eek:


Probably a spin or similar. Lost only on first split. Atko very fast over 1st split

[Peugeot206WRC]

Oh, what a great joke it was ;)

Yea, and now you know there still is some interest in WRC.

Anyone know if you can find any driver comments from the stages, there is no rallyradio :(

[jonkka]

Oh, what a great joke it was ;)

Do a "Loeb becomes an exotic feature dancer" -joke next?

[bennizw]

I think Latvala also has steering problems, after an encounter with a rock.


:p :

Getting a bit used by now? ;)

[Mauri A]

Krisse got time for SS2.

[animrallye]

Atkinson is flying.
-6 s on split 2 !!!

[Mauri A]

Atkinson is flying.
-6 s on split 2 !!!
Can´t believe!

[bennizw]

Yes, he's definitly picked up some speed now! Let's hope it holds! :)

[jonkka]

Petter!

[Glee]

Schooby Doo!

[bennizw]

Solberg 3,8 secs faster than Grönholm at the end, good news!

[Mauri A]

The Subarus have found a shortcut!

[barazal]

For sure !!!! lol

[WRC2006]

The Subarus have found a shortcut!

It seems true!!!!

[jonkka]

Atko in lead, Petter 3rd. Wow, Subie... And Citroen boys only 5th & 6th, but gaps are very small. Except for Wilson, slower than Arai in Gr N. :eek:

[Glee]

Is the "New Scooby Pace" just a flash, or something thats going to stay?

[WRC2006]

Anyone else has problems with this page?

[bennizw]

Oh I'd say only a flash, just wait untill the second loop of stages.

[jonkka]

Just a flash, i fear.

[COD]

There can be no other explanation to it!

Hope they can keep this speed up, would really liven up the championship. And good that Loeb is under preassure from more than one side.

[jonkka]

Anyone else has problems with this page?

Slow? Yesh!

[woong69]

yeah the page is slow for me too...maybe too much traffic?
btw, another exciting start, but probably Loeb will stand out sooner or later, eh?

[barazal]

SS3.-
1º Atkinson 2º P. Solberg a 7.9 3º Loeb a 10.9 4º Gronholm a 11.7 5º Sordo a 12
GENERAL.-
1º Atkinson 2º Gronholm a .3 3º P. Solberg a 1.3 4º Hirvonen a 3.3 5º Sordo a 7.9 6º Loeb a 11.5 7º H. Solberg a 17.6 8º Latvala a 30.1

[animrallye]

Atkinson leading a world rally for the third time of his career (Japan 05 and Australia 06) :eek:

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Atkinson lead... WOW!

[COD]

I'm afraid by the end of this leg it will all be back to boring "normal".I truly hpe that is not he case

[bennizw]

And it never lasts longer than a few stages.

[WRC2006]

I'm afraid by the end of this leg it will all be back to boring "normal".I truly hpe that is not he case

If there is a repeat of some stages ran this morning, so ensures that at the end it will be the boring standing as usual.

[bennizw]

It's that what makes the rallies so predictable, as most of the top drivers are faster the second time through. Better with new stages.

[pentti]

I'm afraid by the end of this leg it will all be back to boring "normal".I truly hpe that is not he caseYes,but think F1,where it's boring after the first corner!

[WRC2006]

It's that what makes the rallies so predictable, as most of the top drivers are faster the second time through. Better with new stages.

Yeah, maybe particuraly the TOP 3 because when they run the stage in the morning, co-drivers modify the pace notes, if the stage is repeated later, then the drivers are flying and the target is to reduce the chrono as much as possible and in that time the road is clean no sweeping effect!!!

[bennizw]

When does the next stage start?

[WRC2006]

When does the next stage start?

Local Time : GMT +3

11h17 : SS 4 Agia Sotira 1 (15.20 Km)
12h40 : SS 5 Olympic Properties (Markopoulo) 1 (5.16 Km)
13h12 : Service area B (30')

Refuelling zone

14h55 : SS 6 Schimatari 2 (11.57 Km)
15h43 : SS 7 Thiva 2 (23.76 Km)

Refuelling zone

16h59 : SS 8 Agia Sotira 2 (15.20 Km)
CANCELLED -- SS 9 Imittos 1 -- CANCELLED
18h19 : Service area C (45')

[Glee]

Where is Bosse?

[Mauri A]

Bosse disappearead????

[CABAIO E'LONA]

no!! what happen with Marcus?

[Brother John]

Good.....euuuuuhhhh day all here!
I have to go to my office to follow the rally, my home computer is broken!!!

F FRISIERO (http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=29&stage=3&rally=Greece) is he realy fastes on SS3?
http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=7&stage=3&rally=Greece

[WRC2006]

Is this again Loeb's effect?!!!!

The page is slow.....?!

[jonkka]

No, the site is broken.

[WRC2006]

No, the site is broken.


too much traffic?

[jonkka]

But pheeeeew, Marcus is still there and apparently with no problems... just a GPS glitch, again... :eek:

[COD]

Maybe SS4 was particulary bad for running in front?

[WRC2006]

Is that mean 1-2 of Subaru on Sunday?

[Brother John]

Seems to be a Bad weekend for Ford!

[Brother John]

But pheeeeew, Marcus is still there and apparently with no problems... just a GPS glitch, again... :eek:

just a GPS glitch?????????????? +08.7 !!!!!!!!!!

[jonkka]

Wadda ya mean, B-John?

[jonkka]

Is that mean 1-2 of Subaru on Sunday?

What are odds to that? 1:100?

[WRC2006]

What are odds to that? 1:100?


Ok It is a flash then!!!! Haaaaa!!!!

[Brother John]

Wadda ya mean, B-John?

What happend with Marcus? Is it only GPS that not work ore what???

[jonkka]

What happend with Marcus? Is it only GPS that not work ore what???

I referred to him not showing on stage at all until well after leaders had finished. I was worried he had stopped before stage! Luckily, it was not so.

[WRC2006]

I think it was the GPS problem but he lost a little bit time which seems that he may have some problems with the car coz I don't belive on the speed of the Subaru Guys particuraly the speed of Chris?

[A.F.F.]

It's all A.F.F's fault, he's propably put Loeb to win again in the pickems. :p :

http://britishrally.motorsportforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117795&page=5

:up:

[Maui J.]

Wow! 2 x Subarus at the top of the ladder. Haven't seen that for a long time.

[bennizw]

And you won't be seeing it for much longer! :p :

[COD]

Major problems for Sohlberg in PWRC. A puncture maybe?

[WRC2006]

Wow! 2 x Subarus at the top of the ladder. Haven't seen that for a long time.


Just enjoy this for the moment!!!!

[Donney]

I'm ejoying it, I hope it means good things to come for them.

[Waldrons11]

Then if Gardemeister not start why he says:

14 GARDEMEISTER Toni / HONKANEN Jakke
“It was quite muddy today, but if it gets dry roads will be OK. I think that they are not going to be rougher than last year’s.”

during the recces?

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/en/show.php?cat_id=43&page_id=1001


Toni did the recce but couldn't finance a start in time. He's hopeful of getting enough cash together for Finland.

[jonkka]

Big gaps in a short stage?! :eek:

[animrallye]

Where is Sordo :confused:

[Glee]

Where is Sordo :confused:

Somwhere in Greece...

[Waldrons11]

So it seems. Maybe he has found a rock to repair the steering a'la McRae

Loeb had a small spin on stage 2.

[pentti]

J-M the first looser!

[Brother John]

Stohl remain the large loser on each rally this year..........

[animrallye]

Sordo is still alive :p
Thx ISC-T :mad:

[Waldrons11]

The Subarus have found a shortcut!

The Subaru's used a harder tyre compound to take advantage of the clear surface (due to their road position) this morning - seems to have done the trick!!

[Donney]

J-M the first looser!


What do you mean? Is he off or something??? :eek:

[euskalteam]

Finally Sordo is not out :bounce:

[Donney]

The Subaru's used a harder tyre compound to take advantage of the clear surface (due to their road position) this morning - seems to have done the trick!!

I can't believe they got it right with the tyres, it is the first time since 2003 :D

[WRC2006]

What do you mean? Is he off or something??? :eek:

I think he meant that Latvala is the first starting on the bottom of Top 8!!!

[teufel]

Very nice leaderboard, haven't seen something like this for ages :)

[Glee]

I can't believe they got it right with the tyres, it is the first time since 2003 :D

Since Monte Carlo 2006, when the stage was canceled...

[WRC2006]

Is this not due to the starting position they have and more advantage to Chris?

Marcus has been seeping the road which I think it is penalising in this rally but I am wondering again if it is not associated with another problems because he lost a lot of time in the short stage?

Let us wait and see this afternoon. The boring Guy may come back in the game

[Viktory]

anyone know what happened to Flodin in PWRC? He was leading after first stage today, but then, nothing? Retired? if so how?

[MHjerpe]

Flodin: Offroad ss3...

[Peugeot206WRC]

anyone know what happened to Flodin in PWRC? He was leading after first stage today, but then, nothing? Retired? if so how?

Sadly I think he rolled.
Thought he could win this rally really, but that wont happen now.

[animrallye]

Duval retired before SS5 (overheating)

[GigiGalliNo1]

dudu retired? :( loeb 6th!?

[AlfaWRC]

This is the answer of Andy Aigner I expected. He has such a fantastic speed...

[WRC2006]

dudu retired? :( loeb 6th!?

Loeb and Marcus said after the SS4 that they are losing time because they are sweeping the road.

There is a re-run of SS3 and SS4 so things may change

[ZequeArgentina]

Greece4 in pWRC is not a problem of speed, but how much you risk to brake your car or get a puncture.
In group N cars it is a race to think a lot and take care of everything, while not being too slow in the meantime...........

Anyway, good times by Perez Companc (for his speed) who will we surely risking the car!!! (it is a WRC)

[GigiGalliNo1]

thanks WRC2006 :)

[DonJippo]

Duval retired before SS5 (overheating)

Car or driver :confused:

[Mauri A]

Greece4 in pWRC is not a problem of speed, but how much you risk to brake your car or get a puncture.
In group N cars it is a race to think a lot and take care of everything, while not being too slow in the meantime...........

Anyway, good times by Perez Companc (for his speed) who will we surely risking the car!!! (it is a WRC)
Morning Zeque, it´s nice to see you have woken up!

[pentti]

What do you mean? Is he off or something??? :eek: Sorry. It was meant to be a joke. In my days if you were second you were first looser.Actually he finished third. My mistake. Atkinson have been very good. Why?

[DonJippo]

Sorry. It was meant to be a joke. In my days if you were second you were first looser.Actually he finished third. My mistake. Atkinson have been very good. Why?

Good tyre choice? Road position? Hard to believe there has been any significant improvement / development on the car since sardinia.

[WRC2006]

Good tyre choice? Road position? Hard to believe there has been any significant improvement / development on the car since sardinia.

I agree with you. Road position and good tyre choice

[WRC1]

This is the answer of Andy Aigner I expected. He has such a fantastic speed...

AGREEEEEEE!!!

very good to see him on top of the leaderboard!

in my point of view the rally could end now!
subaru in front and aigner wins pwrc....sweet! ;o))

regards

wrc1

[WRC2006]

..... Atkinson have been very good. Why?

"We had an interesting service early this morning because after last night's stage I noticed a problem with the gearchange," said Hirvonen. "The team replaced the hydraulic gearchange system in just 10 minutes before we left this morning, a job that we would normally allow 25 minutes for. It was a fantastic effort but stressful for me watching to see if they could do it in time. I'm pleased with the morning. The roads were slippery but they should be better this afternoon."

Grönholm echoed his colleague's views: "It wasn't easy being first on the road because there was plenty of slippery loose gravel," he said. "It was hard to get good grip and only the first stage this morning, when I was fastest, wasn't affected. In those conditions I couldn't have done any more than I have done. I will take a harder tyre this afternoon when the roads will be cleaner and the temperatures higher."

[A.F.F.]

I don't care for the reasons of Subaru's double lead. The most important thing is they lead. Talking about the moral boost :up:

[Timole]

Go Martin Rauam, fantastic so far!

[barazal]

I think this afternoon all will fall just in place.

[Mauri A]

I think this afternoon all will fall just in place.

And that is?

[MikeD]

It's not a hope .... but you can just feel a double DNF comming Subaru's way...

[WRC2006]

I don't care for the reasons of Subaru's double lead. The most important thing is that all will adjust in place at the end of the Leg 1

[MikeD]

And that is?

Gronholm and Loeb in the front. Hirvonen in his usual third. And Sordo figthing with JM and Henning over forth. Right?

[barazal]

I think that Gronholm, Loeb at the top, Hirvonen, P. Solberg and Sordo pretty evenly matched at some distance, 15 o 20 seconds and the rest away.
I dont know what to think about Atkinson, but I dont see at the top at the end of the leg

[GigiGalliNo1]

its giving subaru a boost for the day! but maybe i hope they keep it up for tomrrow or even second run today =)

[Flyinglex]

I think Atko is so fast because his australian experience. LOok everybody was complaining on that but atko found familiar surface .

[WRC2006]

The pressure is on him because soon Pons will be challenging him in Finland. So it is like he has nothing to save then he decided flat out untill the car give up and now lucky he is, he still in the road...

[WRC2006]

So let see that Guys,

Marcus on Start line now

[White Sauron]

Strange... marcus not that faster than in the morning...

[Peugeot206WRC]

The pressure is on him because soon Pons will be challenging him in Finland. So it is like he has nothing to save then he decided flat out untill the car give up and now lucky he is, he still in the road...

Hehe, Atko has shown speed before, I doubt its because hes under pressure.
I even think Atko is a averall better driver then Pons and I doubt Pons could beat Atko in Finland.

[MikeD]

Loeb 1.3 sec. slower on first split

[WRC2006]

Strange... marcus not that faster than in the morning...


Is it me or my computer?

Loeb is slower than Marcus on first split?

[animrallye]

Car or driver :confused:
Both :D

[teufel]

Is it me or my computer?

Loeb is slower than Marcus on first split?

No, it's Marcus ;) Let's hope he can keep his rythm and go for the win!

[jonas_mcrae]

i think is right, good the subarus still on top, wonder how much will they last...

[jonkka]

The pressure is on him because soon Pons will be challenging him in Finland.

In rolling? :eek:

[WRC2006]

Hehe, Atko has shown speed before, I doubt its because hes under pressure.
I even think Atko is a averall better driver then Pons and I doubt Pons could beat Atko in Finland.

I agree he has a speed, but we need consistency to confirm that with his speed he has a control of the car as well.

[MikeD]

Loeb ends 4.4 after MG

[teufel]

The next SS is very important for Marcus, if he wants the win

[Corny]

every stage is important if he wants the win :D

[Corny]

what's wrong with duval?

[Mauri A]

The next SS is very important for Marcus, if he wants the win
I think he wants to win.

[WRC2006]

Is there any connection between Loeb and this page?

This is the third time I found that in the same time we have a problem here Loeb has problems as well?!!

Or it is just a coincidence?!

[WRC2006]

If he push hard again in the following stage, he will be leading the rally at the end of Leg1

[Incrimn8r]

Is my computer faulty or is Atkinson in 1st place?

[Isthmus]

No, it's Marcus ;) Let's hope he can keep his rythm and go for the win!


Why? Didn´t you all want competition?

Why do i have the feeling that if Gronholm wins ALL the rallys till the end, WRC would turn, suddenly, MUCH more interesting ?

Its allways the same history.

[swordsman]

Is my computer faulty or is Atkinson in 1st place?

*LOL*
I think the WRC timing system is faulty :)

[WRC2006]

what's wrong with duval?

As usual, already out.

But this time it was the car not him

[mdesign]

And Atko keeps its lead for another stage :) great to see a subaru in front (at least until they go back to their usual places)

[animrallye]

what's wrong with duval?
Retired after SS4 due to radiator water leak that caused an engine failure. Will not restart tomorrow.

[Incrimn8r]

*LOL*
I think the WRC timing system is faulty :)

I am over the moon about it, but I still don't believe it!