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jens
27th May 2007, 16:18
So - who was the most spectacular driver at that quite eventless Monaco Grand Prix?

Scott Speed would IMO be a strong candidate - hands down, superb drive! :up: In the last laps I even hoped that someone in front of him would retire to allow the American to finish in the points. :D He is given too few credit and I don't get it why some think (Berger included) that he doesn't deserve to be in F1.

Besides, also great drive by a well-known Monaco specialist Fisichella.

BeansBeansBeans
27th May 2007, 16:20
Unquestionably Fernando Alonso.

Dave B
27th May 2007, 16:22
Alonso. He proved why he's a 2x WDC today.

jens
27th May 2007, 16:26
Yeah, Alonso too. But it's in my nature to highlight the drives of those, who are not winners at the moment. :)

donKey jote
27th May 2007, 16:27
Alonso, pole, fastest lap and second Monaco in a row in different cars. All under massive pressure from the next best Lewis.
Congrats Fisi & Wurz on their hard earned points :)

ioan
27th May 2007, 16:30
Kubica or Wurz for me.

Alonso did well for sure but as the commentator pointed it out, it seemed that Lewis was not allowed by the team to try his chances even if he seemed the faster one of the two.

CCFanatic
27th May 2007, 16:31
So - who was the most spectacular driver at that quite eventless Monaco Grand Prix?

Scott Speed would IMO be a strong candidate - hands down, superb drive! :up: In the last laps I even hoped that someone in front of him would retire to allow the American to finish in the points. :D He is given too few credit and I don't get it why some think (Berger included) that he doesn't deserve to be in F1.

Besides, also great drive by a well-known Monaco specialist Fisichella.


I agree with that. He had a great race.

AndySpeed
27th May 2007, 16:33
Alonso, like a lot of the rest of people, he did what he needed to do and didn't do anything more, which is how you win championships.

VkmSpouge
27th May 2007, 16:40
I definitely think it was Fernando Alonso, he responded to everything Hamilton could throw at him today and drove like the double world champion he is.
Good performances by Alex Wurz and Scott Speed too.

jens
27th May 2007, 16:44
Kubica or Wurz for me.



Heidfeld was having an upper hand over Kubica, but BMW's weird strategy destroyed Nick's race. :\ BMW probably hoped for Safety Car and decided to make an early stop with one car. In Australia they hoped the same and again Heidfeld had a poor strategy. Damn. He could have fought with Fisichella for fourth.

GridGirl
27th May 2007, 16:52
I thought they all drove pretty well as only 2 drivers managed to crash out. I know f1 drivers are supposed to be the best of the best, but I never really expected so many of them to last the distance.

eloyf1
27th May 2007, 16:54
Alonso. Hamilton has been very very spectacular today, but I think this is due to driving over his skills/possibilities... If he continues to race like that, he will have several problems...

ioan
27th May 2007, 16:57
Hamilton has been very very spectacular today, but I think this is due to driving over his skills/possibilities... If he continues to race like that, he will have several problems...

It didn't do him harm for 5 races in a row. I would like to see Kimi doing the same thing.

Corny
27th May 2007, 17:10
Wurz/Alonso/Kubica all did a very good job.. I don't know which of them to chose :D

eloyf1
27th May 2007, 17:14
It didn't do him harm for 5 races in a row. I would like to see Kimi doing the same thing.
All drivirs do something wrong during the season: it's impossible to do a perfect championship, and Hamilton must have some problems... (If he hasn't, it would be better: I support him since I saw a karting race some years ago...)

As your second sentence: it's impossible to see Kimi doing the same thing, that's obvious :D

ArrowsFA1
27th May 2007, 17:30
Scott Speed would IMO be a strong candidate - hands down, superb drive! :up:
He gets my vote :up:

mirek01
27th May 2007, 17:40
For me there wasn't one hero.Good race did Alonso ,Hamilton,Wurz ,Kubica,Speed.

race aficionado
27th May 2007, 17:45
Ralf Schumacher.

$20 million salary - 20th in the grid

priceless . . . .


sorry . . . I had to get that out of my chest.

:)

PSfan
27th May 2007, 17:50
The driver of the race for me was... ME...

That race was so boring, I swear I slept threw atleast a third of it, and during some of those naps, I dreamt I was racing, and doing real well (running P1 in a Spyker) :cheese:

Seriously now... For me, I would split it with Fisi and Speed. Had the little incident that got Hamilton's tires looking a pit champcarish (red paint on the side...) had been a little more serious, we could have seen a Renault on the podium, and a Toro Rosso in the points!!!

aryan
27th May 2007, 17:57
Kubica or Wurz for me.

Alonso did well for sure but as the commentator pointed it out, it seemed that Lewis was not allowed by the team to try his chances even if he seemed the faster one of the two.

Which commentators?

What channel do you watch F1 on ioan?

rohanweb
27th May 2007, 18:00
impressive Hamilton / Kubica / Speed,
but the authority was stamped yesterday with a pole & push push push fantastico drive from Mr.Alonso ...!!!

aryan
27th May 2007, 18:01
Ralf Schumacher.

$20 million salary - 20th in the grid

priceless . . . .


sorry . . . I had to get that out of my chest.

:)

:laugh: :laugh:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Breeze
27th May 2007, 18:01
Ralf Schumacher.

:)

Is he still driving in F1? I hadn't noticed............. :dozey:

aryan
27th May 2007, 18:04
My choicec:
1) Alonso
2) Hamilton
3) Wurz, Speed, Fisico

Pino: Can we have a poll with the above options please? Add BMW drivers and Massa to that as well. Thank you.

ioan
27th May 2007, 18:05
Well he finished next to his very highly considered (by some) team mate.

In fact RS went from last to 16th while JT managed the performance to go from 14th to 15th! Hardly better I would say.

Big Ben
27th May 2007, 18:06
Fernando Alonso. Pole-position, best lap and winner.... I don't know where did Hamilton proved to be faster and how did the team stop him from winning
Though he did a great job again
Wurz result was pretty impressive too...

aryan
27th May 2007, 18:08
Well he finished next to his very highly considered (by some) team mate.

In fact RS went from last to 16th while JT managed the performance to go from 14th to 15th! Hardly better I would say.


Yeah, well the Toyotas ARE rubbish. They keep going backward.

Fair point ioan, I expected Truli to trash RS here, which is considered his specialty. He didn't, which I think just shows how crap this Toyota is, that both of them I think just gave up.

That team needs some change...SOON.

Ian McC
27th May 2007, 18:12
Ralf Schumacher.

$20 million salary - 20th in the grid

priceless . . . .


sorry . . . I had to get that out of my chest.

:)

Yeah, I agree. He doesn't seem to be up for it at all

Ian McC
27th May 2007, 18:16
Alonso would be my choice, drove well to keep Lewis behind him

gm99
27th May 2007, 18:50
Alonso for not making a single mistake all race long and looking to be in control at all times.

Wurz for also driving an error-free race and employing a perfect one-stop-strategy to claim 7th from 11th place on the grid.

Speed for making up 9 places and almost scoring his first points in F1.

All in all, one of the dullest races at Monaco I have ever seen - no-one even seems to try to pass anyone on track anymore...

jens
27th May 2007, 19:16
I wonder, how Ralf felt driving in the last position. I don't remember him ever driving there...

And Jarno looked pretty anxious at his pitstop. I'd imagine that he better wanted to step out of the car and go home.

Toyota wasn't that poor even on their debut season. :dozey: Heck, Salo qualified 9th and McNish 10th at Monaco!

Corny
27th May 2007, 19:36
I don't read a lot from Fisichella here, but I think he did a great job today!

jas123f1
27th May 2007, 19:37
Alonso without any questioning for me and also Fisi who made a good job..
and I’m still positively surprised about that very good driving what Hamilton is showing.

F1boat
27th May 2007, 20:17
Fernando Alonso!

ojciec dyrektor
27th May 2007, 21:13
Heidfeld was having an upper hand over Kubica, but BMW's weird strategy destroyed Nick's race. :\ BMW probably hoped for Safety Car and decided to make an early stop with one car. In Australia they hoped the same and again Heidfeld had a poor strategy. Damn. He could have fought with Fisichella for fourth.

I don't think so.
NH quallyfied 0,1 s faster than RK, but he pits on 32th lap while RK on 45th!
RK stuck behind slow Barrichello and Wurz while NH had no one in front.
RK had fastest lap 1:16.006, 3rd overall, while NH 1:17.041, 12th overall.
And RK had breaks problem at the beginning and at the end he was without traction control.

Are You sure You were watching Monaco GP? ;P

For me: Alonso, Kubica, Speed.

Jackass of the race: Ralfie!!!! :D

ioan
27th May 2007, 21:34
...

Jackass of the race: Ralfie!!!! :D

Because he finished 6 places up from where he started I suppose.

ojciec dyrektor
27th May 2007, 21:40
Because he finished 6 places up from where he started I suppose.

No. Because he quallified 20th while hes teammate was 14th and 22th Albers didn't finish one lap. Because RS did it again. And Because he finished 16th, 17th was Sato and 18th Davidson, who had drive through penalty. 4 drivers retired. It's realy impresive style!

ioan
27th May 2007, 21:44
No. Because he quallified 20th while hes teammate was 14th and 22th Albers didn't finish one lap. Because RS did it again. And Because he finished 16th, 17th was Sato and 18th Davidson, who had drive through penalty. 4 drivers retired. It's realy impresive style!

It could have been Kubica in that situation.
Anyway Ralf did as good a race if not better than his team mate Trulli.

ojciec dyrektor
27th May 2007, 21:49
It could have been Kubica in that situation.
Anyway Ralf did as good a race if not better than his team mate Trulli.

Than Kubica could have been jackass of the race. But he's not.
Trulli quallified better than Ralfie and finished better. But I agree, team Toyota are jackass of the race. :D

Sleeper
27th May 2007, 21:58
Alonso, no question in my mind.

Praise also goes to Speed for a brilliant run.

pino
27th May 2007, 22:10
poll added, and my vote goes to Alonso :up:

Roamy
27th May 2007, 22:21
Alonso, no question in my mind.

Praise also goes to Speed for a brilliant run.

this pretty well sums it up for me as well


Greatest comment: about ****macher for to Race !!!

cinnamon33
27th May 2007, 22:32
Fisico, the car is still crap, but he managed to finish 4th and his race was decent.

Fernando was fabulous, but McLaren is now really superior compared to others, so it wasn't THAT hard to be fabulous. :)

Timber
27th May 2007, 23:32
Kubica or Wurz for me.

Alonso did well for sure but as the commentator pointed it out, it seemed that Lewis was not allowed by the team to try his chances even if he seemed the faster one of the two.

I hope that you are kidding , right ?

Valve Bounce
28th May 2007, 06:26
I voted for Alonso simply because he proved quickest under any circumstance during the race, kept his cool, was fastest in quals (most important here) and drove an impeccable race. Normally I would look for heroics from somebody in midfield or even from the tail end, but this time I had to go with the winner.

Trqster
28th May 2007, 10:46
I hope that you are kidding , right ?

Errrr......
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/05/28/dennis_we_decided_alonso_would_win/


Ron Dennis admitted that the McLaren team decided in advance that Fernando Alonso would win the Monaco Grand Prix ahead of team-mate Lewis Hamilton. The McLaren boss said that it was frustrating having to make the call but claims that the possibility of the safety car coming out demanded a change of strategy.

"An outstanding result for the team. Both Fernando and Lewis drove so well and responded excellently to the team's wishes of bringing both cars home safely in what was a memorable one-two result and McLaren's 14th victory in the Principality," Dennis said.

"However there is some disappointment because of the different strategies we needed to follow to cope with a potential deployment of the Safety Car which has happened four times in the last five years. Consequently you virtually have to decide in advance which one of the team's two drivers will claim the victory."

Lewis Hamilton fought hard through out the race to allow his one-stop strategy to give him the lead only for his team to change him to a two stop programme.

"Once the first round of pitstops had taken place we reverted Lewis from a one-stop strategy to the faster two-stop strategy and at the same time slowed both cars down to conserve the brakes. As a team we would like to race but this circuit requires a disciplined approach and as a result we can leave Monte Carlo with the maximum amount of points," Dennis added.

aryan
28th May 2007, 11:41
Sorry to disappoint you Trqster (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=81934), your article is sh!t.

There is nothing from RD's quotes warranting that sensationalist headline.

It was a tough call between 1-stop and 2-stops here, those who finished 5, 7, 8 can attest to the effectiveness of 1-stop strategy in certain situations.

And when it became apparent that 2-stops was more useful to Lewis, his strategy was flexible enough to provide this.

It's disappointing that the standards of journalism have fallen so low.

555-04Q2
28th May 2007, 13:19
It has to be Alonso. Superb drive :up:

CarlMetro
28th May 2007, 13:42
Personally I didn't think there was one :\

One of the most boring, processional Monaco GP's I've ever had the displeasure to witness, I'm glad I taped it so I could skip through it :down:

Hondo
29th May 2007, 01:27
I'd have to go with Fiero 5.7 as driver of the day. Over the course of the day, he was able, despite rain, to complete all the planned programs in a pickup truck, a 4-wheeler atv, a riding mower, a motorcycle, and a boat. In addition, he fearlessly passed many a vehicle between home and the marina in the pickup without having to rely upon pitstops. He had no broken gearboxes, wires, hydraulics, and at all times the complete set of required wheels were properly secured in place.

The man is incredible.

52Paddy
29th May 2007, 09:59
It's a tough one. Alonso didn't put a foot wrong all day. Hamilton raced well and was very exciting to watch but seemed very slow at the beginning of the race and couldn't seem to match Alonso's pace. Massa raced well too but Ferrari were not on McLaren's level today. Fisichella had a solid race if not a little "behind the scenes" over the course of the race. Watching Kubica and Heidfeld battle for the few points was very interesting too. Hats off to both drivers who did an excellent job. Kimi had a tough job, starting from 16th but Schumacher managed to get up from last to 5th last year and Speed was up to 9th from 18th. I was expecting a little more from Kimi, considering his raw talent. Speed was very surprising. It was great to see him almost into the points. He kept making progress as the race went on.

Driver of the day is a tough one but I think I'll give it to Speed. Alonso appeared slightly pressured by Hamilton and, although this race can show Lewis who is No. 1 (Alonso), I reckon Alonso may feel Hamilton breathing down his neck, and he won't like that.

rlenis
30th May 2007, 01:32
He gets my vote :up:

mine goes to Speed also

V12
30th May 2007, 11:18
I voted Fisi - it was a relatively uneventful and unnoticed drive from 4th to 4th - but he was miles ahead of his teammate throughout, and I can't really say that about anyone else except Massa (and that was because of Kimi's qualifying problems). I can't really give it to either of the McLarens since the car was so utterly dominant at Monaco, I don't know how much of that was down to the two drivers.

Speed a close second.

leopard
30th May 2007, 11:23
Hamilton and Kubica, my drivers, poll added to Kubica :D

Racehound
30th May 2007, 11:26
Wurz/Alonso/Kubica all did a very good job.. I don't know which of them to chose :D
......i`ll give you a clue Corny.......FERNANDO ALONSO!!!!!!!......wurz and kubica....also rans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Racehound
30th May 2007, 11:28
I voted Fisi - it was a relatively uneventful and unnoticed drive from 4th to 4th - but he was miles ahead of his teammate throughout, and I can't really say that about anyone else except Massa (and that was because of Kimi's qualifying problems). I can't really give it to either of the McLarens since the car was so utterly dominant at Monaco, I don't know how much of that was down to the two drivers.

Speed a close second.
was there really any point to this post or what??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Racehound
30th May 2007, 11:34
I'd have to go with Fiero 5.7 as driver of the day. Over the course of the day, he was able, despite rain, to complete all the planned programs in a pickup truck, a 4-wheeler atv, a riding mower, a motorcycle, and a boat. In addition, he fearlessly passed many a vehicle between home and the marina in the pickup without having to rely upon pitstops. He had no broken gearboxes, wires, hydraulics, and at all times the complete set of required wheels were properly secured in place.

The man is incredible.
are we talking existensialism here or maybe a parrallel universe??????????

V12
30th May 2007, 13:19
was there really any point to this post or what??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eh?

Racehound
30th May 2007, 16:23
Alonso. Hamilton has been very very spectacular today, but I think this is due to driving over his skills/possibilities... If he continues to race like that, he will have several problems...
so true....over confident and over exuberant bit of driving by Lewboy, and if he overdrives in that fashion its only a question of time before the back catches up with the front!!!!!!!!!!!

Schnell
30th May 2007, 20:33
Massa!...Drivers excuse of the day award...for being too slow on the day!..."It was traffic!..."I mean err it was...Davidson! I was catching his 'budgetcar' up at one tenth of a second a lap (cor!) and when I was within 2 seconds of him (dot in the mirror!) he hadn't moved over yet! Get him punished uncle Todt"!

Addicted
31st May 2007, 00:19
Speed was my choice. Just great race with underdog machinery

F1boat
31st May 2007, 10:04
Massa!...Drivers excuse of the day award...for being too slow on the day!..."It was traffic!..."I mean err it was...Davidson! I was catching his 'budgetcar' up at one tenth of a second a lap (cor!) and when I was within 2 seconds of him (dot in the mirror!) he hadn't moved over yet! Get him punished uncle Todt"!
Sorry, Shnell, but your kid held him 15 seconds. And he held other drivers as well. The punishment was justified. In Monaco, a driver should be extremely cautious.

aryan
31st May 2007, 15:21
Schnell (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=88501), i know you are upset, but most of us who didn't see the incident here on TV have to accept the Stewards' decision, and they clearly saw something wrong with the way Ant drove in Monaco.

Today's F1 cars can not get that close to the car in front, even if they are lapping them. Ant shouldn't expect Massa to be slipstreaming behind him befoe he gets over.

ioan
31st May 2007, 23:25
Who voted for Felipe? :eek:

ojciec dyrektor
31st May 2007, 23:34
Who voted for Felipe? :eek:

Meybe... Felipe ;)

truefan72
1st June 2007, 20:17
As for Alonso, we will never knowe if LH could have taken him, both in Quali ( making him drive heavier) and the race ( team orders), therefore my vote goes to Speed, Wurz, Kubica

As to LH, peoplel are already forgetting his rookie status and outstanding drives and considering him a top tier driver. To the point where finishing 2nd doesn't merit driver of the race. Normally this would be considered a gross oversight, but in this case, I suppose it is a compliment of the highest kind, when people expect you to finish 1,2 or 3 in every race :)