[WRC] Rally Chile 2023

[Andre Oliveira]

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[TypeR]

Ostberg not starting, couldn't get a car deal.

Appearing on the entry list, Mads Ostberg was due to make his return to the WRC in Chile. Absent since Catalunya 2021, the 2020 WRC2 world champion was in negotiations with the Heller family to have a Citroën C3 Rally2, but it was not possible to find common ground.

https://www.autohebdo.fr/actualites/rallye/wrc/rallye-du-chili-dix-rally1-un-solide-plateau-en-wrc2-mais-pas-de-mads-ostberg.html/amp

[NaBUru38]

Alberto Heller (the 2022 Chilean Rally Mobil RC2 champion) will drive an M-Sport Ford Puma Rally1.

The WRC2 class will feature Oliver Solberg, Gus Greensmith and Kajetan Kajetanowicz, plus Chilean Rally Mobil regulars Jorge Martínez, Pedro Heller, Emilio Rosselot, Gerardo Rosselot, Martín Scuncio, Germán Lyon, Emilio Fernández and Benjamín Israel.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heller's Puma livery

https://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Heller-Rally1-Puma-2023.jpeg

[spyros]

Any info about the wheather there?

[CeskyOndra]

Probably not a lot of rain, 15 degrees overall

[Eli]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/an-insiders-guide-to-rally-chiles-wrc-return/

A nice preview by Alain Penasse for next week’s stages for Rally Chile.

Edit: replaced the link.

[spyros]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/an-insiders-guide-to-rally-chiles-wrc-return/ֿ

A nice preview by Alain Penasse for next week’s stages for Rally Chile.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stages in fantastic condition...

https://x.com/Ryan_Champion/status/1706430924366221777?s=20

[bomber21]

WOW! Like a carpet!

[Eli]

Page not found eror 404.

Fixed it.

[spyros]

Any news about recce?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Guesswork for the set-up says Tanak...

https://www.wrcfanatix.com/2023/09/tanak-believes-that-car-set-up-will-be-done-with-speculation-in-chile.html?m=1

[EstWRC]

Recce interviews https://youtu.be/hiE6H8m1KRs?si=sGfIQYMYPXOiiVeR

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So many comparisons to other rallies - New Zealand, Wales, Finland - but Rally Chile looks amazing in it's own right !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7FFCt1WYAAJaH_?format=jpg&name=large

[HKSjbg]

Beautiful. Makes me want to visit Chile which is exactly the point of hosting a world championship sporting event!

Also looking forward to Chile in the upcoming EA Sports WRC game, as I am a 35-year-old child :D

[er88]

Looks like there could be a lot of road cleaning, if most of the stages resemble the pics ive seen from Reece. Especially in the open stages on Friday due to the high winds

[spyros]

Looks like there could be a lot of road cleaning, if most of the stages resemble the pics ive seen from Reece

Yes i think so, maybe there's a chance for Lappi or Suninen but i doubt it.

[EstWRC]

I have a good feeling about Tänak and Puma this week

lets see if it comes true

[spyros]

I have a good feeling about Tänak and Puma this week

lets see if it comes true

Its not about Tanak ( we knew what he can do ) its about Puma.

[becher]

Beautiful. Makes me want to visit Chile which is exactly the point of hosting a world championship sporting event!

Also looking forward to Chile in the upcoming EA Sports WRC game, as I am a 35-year-old child :D

I agree! I was very critical of the "pointless" new round considering plenty of classics are missing from the calendar but I ended up liking it a lot in 2019 because it was just beautiful to watch and I kind of developed a new appreciation for rallying as a window to watch the world. If you are used to see the same landscape in Finland Portugal, Spain,.... since you are a child you forget about that aspect of rallying.

[Rallyper]

Don´t forget your Pickems...
Only 24 hrs before closing time of Rally Chile. 1330 CEST tomorrow Friday. SS1 starts at 1335 hrs CEST.

[CeskyOndra]

Any info about Kalle's third run? 40sec. down

[dimviii]

Big crash at the flying finish: https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1707422062535381326/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1707422062535381326¤tTwee t=1707422062535381326¤tTweetUser=paddocknews¤tTwee tUser=paddocknews&mode=profile

Hmm... this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

[MartijnS]

https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1707422062535381326?s=48&t=3Ol6OYSf2YbwABNfjLGyKg

[er88]

Lovely turn out and atmosphere for the ceremonial start from what ive seen/ heard from a mate who was there. Men, women and kids full of passion for the sport and drivers. Shame we cant keep/have all of Chile,Argentina,Mexico in the championship.

However, its an absolute joke not even at least 1 car from each team could do a burnout/launch for a few secs or even rev the car after the interview ramp. Give the fans who have waited hours in chilly conditions at least some sort of spectacle, instead of all 3 cars for each team bleeping down the road like some sort of annoying alarm clock.

[EstWRC]

Amazing indeed https://x.com/dirtfishrally/status/1707542371095736507?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

Chile is a must in the calendar for me. Drivers love it, Amazing stages, and just look at the passion of fans

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[RKTS40]

Any information on road conditions for Friday? Dry/Wet? Kalle as roadsweeper will lose a lot?

[doubled1978]

It depends if there is moisture in the top surface. Shakedown did and Kalle/Elfyn probably had the best road for the first pass, then it starts to break up and gets slower, then finally it will clean and get faster again.

[RKTS40]

It depends if there is moisture in the top surface. Shakedown did and Kalle/Elfyn probably had the best road for the first pass, then it starts to break up and gets slower, then finally it will clean and get faster again.

Yes, question is now if the Friday roads are similiar to shakedown or those are different. Maybe someone who is at Chile can share the information. Thanks for input in ahead to everyone.

[seb_sh]

Lovely turn out and atmosphere for the ceremonial start from what ive seen/ heard from a mate who was there. Men, women and kids full of passion for the sport and drivers. Shame we cant keep/have all of Chile,Argentina,Mexico in the championship.

However, its an absolute joke not even at least 1 car from each team could do a burnout/launch for a few secs or even rev the car after the interview ramp. Give the fans who have waited hours in chilly conditions at least some sort of spectacle, instead of all 3 cars for each team bleeping down the road like some sort of annoying alarm clock.

I also think Becs did a good job hosting, I think she's too talkative during stages but she's great as an interviewer and host.

[seb_sh]

I was a bit neutral about this rally but so far what i've seen of the roads is winning me over! Also convenient watching times in the afternoon, gives me time to watch MotoGP in the mornings hehe, getting ready for a great weekend :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Also convenient watching times in the afternoon, gives me time to watch MotoGP in the mornings hehe, getting ready for a great weekend :)

It definitely makes a change not having to be up at the crack of dawn for the morning stages. And its let me watch Team Europe go 4-0 Up in the the Ryder Cup ! ;)

[EstWRC]

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[wwbroe]

Good first split for Ott

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Usual Friday struggle for Neuville...

[wwbroe]

No grip at all, that is what he says

[wwbroe]

Ott 10 sec faster as Kalle

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes Ott, great start !

[EstWRC]

Tänak!!!

Great stage

TANAK COMMENT
"Stage is fun but extremely demanding. Can't really say feeling comfortable in the car, for sure would like to improve a lot."

lol

[240RS]

Wow!!! Ott has completely stamped his authority on the first stage. Vindicating what Malcolm has been saying all season; the Puma is fundamentally NOT flawed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi off !!

[seb_sh]

Lappi rolled already!

[wwbroe]

He rolled

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Heavy roll hence the pictures went off.

[EstWRC]

Lappi is really going backwards in the second half of the season

[meh]

Quite nasty roll for Lappi to the fences... really afraid of Breen scenario for this kind of situations.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Very nice run by Teemu, even with good road position.

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230929/b59a7017587df75a0a7aa71fde5f914a.jpg

[rp]

Unfortunately Lappi´s career is over after this. He has been afraid after Breen and his own crash in Finland and now it´s easy to make a decision to stop completety and concentrate to his family.

Lappi said before Chile that he can make his own decision about his future and probably was thinking this already.

[meh]

Unfortunately Lappi´s career is over after this. He has been afraid after Breen and his own crash in Finland and now it´s easy to make a decision to stop completety and concentrate to his family.

A bit too quick jump to heavy conclusions I guess? For sure the crash did not help his position behind the table to discuss new contract.

[CeskyOndra]

What?

[jonkka]

Seems some people want take jump start on I said it first -predictions.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unfortunately Lappi´s career is over after this. He has been afraid after Breen and his own crash in Finland and now it´s easy to make a decision to stop completety and concentrate to his family.

I don't think so. It wasn't a high speed crash, just cut a slow ish corner and clipped something.

[rp]

Seems some people want take jump start on I said it first -predictions.

Not at all. We will see what happen.

[EstWRC]

I’m surprised they let the stage continue

The car isn’t in a good place

[meh]

I’m surprised they let the stage continue

The car isn’t in a good place

I was a bit surprised as well, but because the was not at all in good shape. I guess/hope they got fast information about the situation.

[Rallyper]

Lappi too much cutting.

[seb_sh]

Seems some people want take jump start on I said it first -predictions.

If you go by this forum Tanak retires about 5 or 6 times every year! I suppose Lappi can also retire once or twice ;)

[er88]

Spin for Tanak at stage end

[meh]

Spin for Tanak at stage end

... and heavy landing in the beginning of the stage and lost hybrid and was not sure that Järveoja is ok (because of landing).

[TypeR]

Hybrid also lost after first jump

[EstWRC]

Damn Ott. Would have been good time again

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pity about the spin as Tanak was still doing well without the hybrid.

[er88]

That did look a nasty jump. Would like to see the onboards of other drivers to see whether it was poor pacenote/judgement by Tanak, or other drivers are flying too

[er88]

Drivers really struggling, Teemu very messy there

[EstWRC]

Next stage is 23km and if Tänak doesn’t have the hybrid

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good stage by Loubet.

[TypeR]

Good time from Munster also.. only +0.9 to Katsuta

[Rallyper]

That did look a nasty jump. Would like to see the onboards of other drivers to see whether it was poor pacenote/judgement by Tanak, or other drivers are flying too

Kalle flew properly also.

[TypeR]

Lindholm very wide thru bushes again..

and rear right puncture

[dimviii]

#SkodaMotorsport – Here’s the top #WRC2 drivers’
@pirellisport
tyre choice for morning loop of #RallyChile leg 1⬇️

Key fact: #Skoda #FabiaRSRally2 driver
@SamiPajari
takes two spare wheels, most direct competitors only one.

[er88]

Roll cage damage for Lappi.

[TypeR]

Dangerous narrow landings..

[er88]

Issue for Neuville?

[EstWRC]

Hybrid not working for Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good job there's a mid-day service for Tanak to get the hybrid fixed.

[EstWRC]

Great morning from Evans and Tänak

Shame about the spin for Ott, he must get a lot of time against the Toyotas today to fight them tomorrow

[Hackinator]

Hybrid not working for Tänak

Turns out Ott doesn't need it!

[Mirek]

I just got to the RallyTV and the roads look fantastic!

[jonkka]

Remind me again why Toyota nominates Katsuta?

[seb_sh]

Looks like Loubet went off at high speed...

[CeskyOndra]

Huge huge accident for Pierre..

[Mirek]

Looks like Loubet went off at high speed...

It certainly looked like that but no news afterwards...

EDIT: Now confirmed Loubet crashed, crew ok.

[EstWRC]

Turns out Ott doesn't need it!

Well everybody needs it

With the hybrid I suppose he would have been 2-5 secs faster than Evans

[Rallyper]

Loubet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[er88]

Disaster for Loubet. He was perhaps overdriving.

Christ that looks scary

[dimviii]

Valmar Viisel
@paddocknews
·
34m
Grégoire Munster's co-driver, Louis Louka, has forgotten his pace note book. He's been reading from his mobile phone so far this morning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It never stays good for long for Loubet... :disturb:

[meh]

This year they had need to make new pace notes, countless onboard videos were not available for memorizing and it took the actual rally point back. And now, mistakes happens, if you did not have correct pace notes. It was the same last time in 2019 for Neuville.

[meh]

Valmar Viisel
@paddocknews
·
34m
Grégoire Munster's co-driver, Louis Louka, has forgotten his pace note book. He's been reading from his mobile phone so far this morning.

Last time there was Ingrassia commenting and if I remember correctly, he described that new generation make notes digitally. So I think it is all like expected and journalists just have not done their homework.

[seb_sh]

Last time there was Ingrassia commenting and if I remember correctly, he described that new generation make notes digitally. So I think it is all like expected and journalists just have not done their homework.

Could be, Ingrassia said there are young guys who use iPads and the reason he didn't change is he had learned a system and was afraid to change as they were competing at top level and couldn't afford mistakes.

[er88]

Munster said at stage end they'd forgotten their pace notes and were trying their best to read them digitally, after someone from the team sent them to them. Im guessing pics of each page?

[er88]

Are there any full videos of Lappi or Loubet's crashes?

[becher]

Munster said at stage end they'd forgotten their pace notes and were trying their best to read them digitally, after someone from the team sent them to them. Im guessing pics of each page?

This.

[seb_sh]

Then it's clear, good thing his phone battery lasted :D

[eib1]

Loubet

https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/80242_lcimg-25986485-bc06-4950-971a-9745f1672c07.jpg

[jonkka]

Are there any full videos of Lappi or Loubet's crashes?

Not full but incar anyway: https://yle.fi/a/74-20052712 (just click on the video, article is in Finnish but video feed is from WRC).

[dimviii]

Sunninen changed fuel tank

[dimviii]

Only Tanak and Munster with 6 softs.

[EstWRC]

Only Tanak and Munster with 6 softs.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230929/d67f3207419670d4630553ea9c8faeae.jpg

[meh]

Rovanperä 22sec faster than on 1st pass.

[jonkka]

Rovanperä 22sec faster than on 1st pass.

But still slower than opposition.

[Rallyper]

Not full but incar anyway: https://yle.fi/a/74-20052712 (just click on the video, article is in Finnish but video feed is from WRC).

Ohjelma ei ole katsottavissa ulkomailla.

[jonkka]

Ohjelma ei ole katsottavissa ulkomailla.

Aww shit... VPN would help, if you got one.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great job again by Suninen.

[EstWRC]

Wow Suninen

Seems to me Tänak made a really wrong tire choice

[meh]

Road develops like hell, Suninen 7.8sec faster than Rovanperä. So now, Sunien to the lead!

[meh]

Wow Suninen

Seems to me Tänak made a really wrong tire choice

This truth comes with full loop.

[seb_sh]

still early days but an interesting rally developing so far. At the moment it seems road position is defining the times, today it's about making the most of the conditions, the rally will be decided tomorrow

[meh]

yes, proper "friday heroes" day

[EstWRC]

This truth comes with full loop.

It will but if you look at his splits he didn’t gain that much after first split

And he said himself they overheated after 2kms

But we will see

[seb_sh]

Solberg's talking the big talk about being smart and not using the tyres too much compared to Pajari. That's an interesting one as well.

[EstWRC]

Everybody is talking how hard it is with tires and then Tänak is “Hold my beer I’ll take 6 softs” . lol

[TypeR]

Everybody is talking how hard it is with tires and then Tänak is “Hold my beer I’ll take 6 softs” . lol
He tries everything to make the stages feel as smooth as possible for that fragile Puma :D

[meh]

Solberg's talking the big talk about being smart and not using the tyres too much compared to Pajari. That's an interesting one as well.

Went out drinking with Mikkelsen and learned some "if you are not fastest, then say this as excuse" phrases

[seb_sh]

Went out drinking with Mikkelsen and learned some "if you are not fastest, then say this as excuse" phrases

i'll reserve judgement but before the rally I didn't expect Solberg to finish without trouble...

[eib1]

Everybody is talking how hard it is with tires and then Tänak is “Hold my beer I’ll take 6 softs” . lol

He probably saves hards for tomorrow

[seb_sh]

He probably saves hards for tomorrow

Hopefully the car lasts until he has the chance to use them :P

[Rallyper]

Let´s wait and see who is smart and fast. Not who is fast and not smart.

[meh]

Let´s wait and see who is smart and fast. Not who is fast and not smart.

Just in case - take it as humor :)

I personally hope that he is doing well. He is known as "wide open style" guy and uses tires quite a lot.

[seb_sh]

That's a nice sequence of stage side cameras!

[seb_sh]

Taka!

EDIT: I was expecting him to be boring through there :p

[er88]

Taka playing pinball with his car. Bouncing from side to side on sequences of corners/crest

[EstWRC]

Nicely managed Ott. Let’s see on the long one now

[er88]

He probably saves hards for tomorrow

Is that wise? Aren't tomorrows stages going to be under the trees and holding more moisture in most places? Surely soft tyre territory unless im mistaken. Unless Shakedown was unrepresentative of tomorrow

[Allez Andruet]

Suninen said (in Finnish) that the hybrid is not working.

[EstWRC]

Is that wise? Aren't tomorrows stages going to be under the trees and holding more moisture in most places? Surely soft tyre territory unless im mistaken. Unless Shakedown was unrepresentative of tomorrow

Shortest stage tomorrow is 21km, the other two are 28.

But I myself think that he just went to attack on this afternoon to get a lead for tomorrow and starting position

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But I myself think that he just went to attack on this afternoon to get a lead for tomorrow and starting position

That's what Julian Porter said earlier.

[EstWRC]

Loubet crash https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1707831354212143465?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[meh]

Millener can give some interview for a change where the main topic is not cars reliability (with assumption that Loubet off was not related to car failure).

[rp]

SS 5 Munster 6th +9,6s (13,34 km). Much better performance than predicted.

[TypeR]

Millener can give some interview for a change where the main topic is not cars reliability (with assumption that Loubet off was not related to car failure).
Tanak gets a new car in every service.. :D

[meh]

SS 5 Munster 6th +9,6s (13,34 km). Much better performance than predicted.

Nothing special compared to other stages, SS5 was just shorter.

Stage | Lost per km to fastest
SS1 1.62
SS2 0.67
SS3 0.71
SS4 1.23
SS5 0.72
SS6 0.78

Nice and stable performance

[er88]

Kalle moment!

[meh]

Kalle moment!

Which one? :) Dig some stones and jumped nose-light after that.

[EstWRC]

After such a season today feels like a win for me :D

Gonna enjoy it. The car can easily break down tomorrow before first stage

And he is such a good tire manager, the tires looked very good

[TypeR]

Long time no see that good mood Tanak at the end of Friday with Puma..
0 complaint about car from last stage(from live interview).

Cool!

[er88]

Great day for Ott, please for him and Msport.

Tell you what, tomorrow&sunday could tell us whether Evans will ever have the minerals to win a championship. He needs to win here and overhaul Tanak (and Teemu) for 1st imo, considering Neuville and Suninen are currently keeping Kalle down in 5th.

Long way to go, but if there was ever a time for Evans to drive the door handles off the car - this weekend is it.

[EstWRC]

I have to say that Munsters times aren’t bad at all

[TypeR]

I'm actually surprised by Munster! As he has been basically ,,no where'' in wrc2, he has been rather good today..
Let's see!

[denkimi]

I have to say that Munsters times aren’t bad at all
Indeed. Although there is nobody really to compare to, he's doing better than i expected.

[Eli]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/suninen-finally-reveals-his-mystery-chile-issues/

Radiator leak and no hybrid were the issues that faltered Suninen whilst Tänak & Järveoja had a 27G impact on landing (on the 3rd stage of the loop I think).

[Tauri_J]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/suninen-finally-reveals-his-mystery-chile-issues/

Radiator leak and no hybrid were the issues that faltered Suninen whilst Tänak & Järveoja had a 27G impact on landing (on the 3rd stage of the loop I think).

Was that blue blinking light indicating heavy impact on landing?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi roll by Dirtfish

https://youtu.be/i8Msqz6eWIs?si=J2PJOS87L9bEcSX1

[Tauri_J]

Lappi roll by Dirtfish

https://youtu.be/i8Msqz6eWIs?si=J2PJOS87L9bEcSX1

Again there were some idiots outside of the corner. Saved only by the huge tree.

[CeskyOndra]

If Lappi wouldn't cut the corner, he would go straight to the fans..

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230930/cd46214820add64cc7c963ba558aa0b2.jpg

[TypeR]

Did anybody tell Teemu and Kalle that they have to drive 77km with this set of tyres..?

Why Kalle takes such risk..? Can't understand :D

[seb_sh]

Did anybody tell Teemu and Kalle that they have to drive 77km with this set of tyres..?

Why Kalle takes such risk..? Can't understand :D

he saw Tanak yesterday and thought hold my beer :D

[TypeR]

he saw Tanak yesterday and thought hold my beer :D

I mean 1 spare.. but softs may work if he starts so in front

[EstWRC]

Interesting choice from Tänak with just 6 degrees temperature at the moment

But then again the stages are slower and eating more tyre

[Eli]

Did anybody tell Teemu and Kalle that they have to drive 77km with this set of tyres..?

Why Kalle takes such risk..? Can't understand :D

Teemu at least has 3 hards but Rovanperä & Evans have both softs all round and Rovanperä is carrying one spare…

[Tauri_J]

Oh god, hanging dust. Not looking good for Tänak

[meh]

Really nice to watch and scary to drive - low sun, hanging dust and fog...

[dimviii]

Interesting choice from Tänak with just 6 degrees temperature at the moment

But then again the stages are slower and eating more tyre

maybe too much stage km total? 27-21-28km x 2
we will see who had the right choice.

[EstWRC]

Oh god, hanging dust. Not looking good for Tänak

Isn’t much luckily. Just in the beginning

[dimviii]

Bulacia yesterday roll
https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1707863114648068506

so fast he dont need a co driver
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1708072762445549929

[Rallyper]

Teemu at least has 3 hards but Rovanperä & Evans have both softs all round and Rovanperä is carrying one spare…

Yes. And all round. :) :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Low sun and dust makes for great pictures though.

[meh]

Rovanperä is on attack mode, 5th place 38.7sec was the loss to the lead. Let's see where he ends up, taking junks out of everyone.

[Tauri_J]

Suninen too slow

[meh]

Suninen too slow

It's just.. you know... it's not friday anymore.

[Dontcut]

Hard tyre seems not good but 2 stages to go still.

[meh]

Pajari lost 20sec in first split to Solberg...

[Tauri_J]

Ott’s taking back time on sp3

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Neuville

[dimviii]

Kalle last 3 splits are slower from Hellers

[meh]

How many of you want to take a car and just to drive the road where is the stage at the moment? Visually really nice area.

[Rallyper]

Ott´s tyrechoice will pay at the end of the loop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good run by Tanak on those tyres and with an extra spare compared to Rovanpera.

[Rallyper]

Pajari lost 20sec in first split to Solberg...

Must have had a spin or smth.

Edit: still losing time though.

[EstWRC]

Not bad at all from Ott, those hard tyres should really pay off on the longest stage

[Tauri_J]

Massive dust for rally2 guys

[Rallyper]

Full 360 without stopping from Solberg...!
Nice save.

[meh]

Pajari gets more dust from Rally1 car than others from Rally2 cars?

[meh]

Full 360 without stopping from Solberg...!
Nice save.

Yeah, please at least 1 point for that spin! :)

[Tauri_J]

Pajari gets more dust from Rally1 car than others from Rally2 cars?

Yup for sure

[Rallyper]

Pajari gets more dust from Rally1 car than others from Rally2 cars?

No, as they said on RallyTV, Oliver got more dust bcs he had 40 secs up on Pajari. So hardly not just more than one minute space.

[Tauri_J]

No, as they said on RallyTV, Oliver got more dust bcs he had 40 secs up on Pajari. So hardly not just more than one minute space.

That is correct as well but Rally1 cars create a lot more dust

[Rallyper]

That is correct as well but Rally1 cars create a lot more dust

I didn´t get what Pajari said, but was it dustproblems for him, then?

[Tauri_J]

I didn´t get what Pajari said, but was it dustproblems for him, then?

Yup, he said he pretty much had to stop couple of times

E: "Two times I needed to stop because of the dust, I couldn't see absolutely anything. It is how it is, not much we can do."

[dimviii]

FOUR MINUTE INTERVALS IN PLACE
Responding to the dust problems of SS7, Rally1 cars will start SS8 four minutes apart

[EstWRC]

FOUR MINUTE INTERVALS IN PLACE
Responding to the dust problems of SS7, Rally1 cars will start SS8 four minutes apart

Finally they are reacting like they should

Usually they do it only for second loop

[Eli]

https://x.com/ma_ipp/status/1708016770185835002?s=61&t=6ZLBDYTwlSamYcW0Iki0kg

Lappi’s accident from another angle, very lucky no one was hurt.

[Rallyper]

Finally they are reacting like they should

Usually they do it only for second loop

Yeah, but will they give Rally2 cars 4 mins as well? Or still two minutes?

[EstWRC]

Kalle cooked his tires?

Neuville with hards also fast

[Tauri_J]

Lol Kalle’s tyres

[rp]

Kalle cooked his tires?


No. Saving the tyres.

[Rallyper]

Ott´s tyrechoice will pay at the end of the loop.

as said...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

5 Softs was a bizarre tyre choice by Rovanpera when it's the longest day and most abrasive stages.

[Tauri_J]

No. Saving the tyres.

Nothing to save there when they are pretty much done

[rp]

Nothing to save there when they are pretty much done

Still one stage to go, so had to save to have something left. Bad stragedy indeed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go on Ott !!

[EstWRC]

Tänak should do hell of a time on next one with full hards

[meh]

Tänak should do hell of a time on next one with full hards

... or from another point of view, others just lose a lot of time as they don't have any working tires left.

[seb_sh]

A nice rally so far, i really like these roads. Also the tyre battle is nice we haven't had one so different in a while. Looks like Rovanpera went all or nothing today. Curious what Tanak and Suninen will do with on the next one.

[meh]

Rovanperä is on attack mode, 5th place 38.7sec was the loss to the lead. Let's see where he ends up, taking junks out of everyone.

... but with overly optimistic tyre-strategy it all seems to work out in the opposite way

Probably massive loss is coming for Rovanperä from SS9, 3.7sec down already to Taka.

[Rallyper]

jepp. Kalle driving Heller tempo between split 1 and 2...

[Dontcut]

Tyres are so done and they burst

[Rallyper]

Big drama at SS9 now. Also Katsuta run out of rubber, losing big time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Katsuta with 5 Softs... like Rovanpera.

[EstWRC]

Wtf Tänak a second slower than Evans

[Rallyper]

Evans now losing time. Rubber out right rear...
Also suspension seems loose. RR.
Edit: No suspension failure. Just tyre.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy this, not seen such a tyre mistake for ages.

[Dontcut]

Wtf Tänak a second slower than Evans

Thats why:)

[meh]

Compared to Evans and Takamoto, Rovanperä made correct adjustment after first stage on the loop and went to sade-mode.

[dimviii]

Wtf Tänak a second slower than Evans

hard compound ,give them some time to have proper temperature.

[240RS]

Kalle's position at the beginning of the day made his decision to take the softs understandable, but goodness has it backfired

[Rallyper]

Seems also Rally2 cars having worn out tyres...

[EstWRC]

Brilliant choice again from Tänak like yesterday with softs!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great drive by Tanak and the Puma and tyre strategy by M-Sport.

For Toyota a disaster, especially Evans.

[Dontcut]

Compared to Evans and Takamoto, Rovanperä made correct adjustment after first stage on the loop and went to sade-mode.

Intresting that Evans didnt anticipated tyre burst and went hard to very last moment.

[dimviii]

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-97541846-e842-461a-ba7a-c0b500dfe790.jpeg

[meh]

From championship point of view, I think Evans went to all or nothing. Did not work out this time.

[EstWRC]

Inspector Tänak going to see Evans tyres

https://x.com/dirtfishrally/status/1708112559134392669?s=46&t=AWria8OgC1kV5QC61vX5Xg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From championship point of view, I think Evans went to all or nothing. Did not work out this time.

A real shame as he looked like taking many points off Rovanpera and making it a great battle to watch til the end of the season. Now it looks pretty much over.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport @MSportLtd
TACTICAL MASTERSTROKE!

Epic team work with the tyre strategy sees us shoot 47 seconds into the lead!

Awesome work by all !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle Rovanperä.@KalleRovanpera
#RallyChile SS9⏱️18:27.6!

"I think we're lucky to even be here. Big mistake with the tyre choice - we didn't expect this high tyre wear"

[dimviii]

Gryazin with 4th time overall
Pajari took 13 sec from Oliver

[Eli]

Glad to see Tänak's choice payed off, yes a shame Evans had a double puncture but at least he has 2 spares. Really hope Tänak can get this win in the bag and if the two Hyundai's are joining him on the podium, that's good for the manu. championship.

[doubled1978]

Intresting that Evans didnt anticipated tyre burst and went hard to very last moment.

I think he just took the risk knowing if he got away with it there was a chance to take good points off Kalle. I don’t think it was a ‘mistake’, just a gamble that didn’t pay off for him. I’m glad he didn’t play safe and went for it. Kalle had no choice but to drive slow as he only had 1 spare.

[Managarium]

So, in which stage, Sunninen will let Neuville pass him? :dozey:

[CeskyOndra]

I think that he will pass him by speed

[bandit12]

So, in which stage, Sunninen will let Neuville pass him? :dozey:

It will happen today..

[er88]

Feel Evans had to risk it with the tyres in terms of the championship. A win here with kalle in a lonely 5th would've been great with 2rounds to go. Now I guess Evans has to throw the kitchen sink at it to try and get 2nd + powerstage win?

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230930/c7d37d664f6d4e37ec3ff8e94a6dd742.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dirtfish:

Evans admitted he “had a suspicion leaving service” this morning that Toyota’s call would backfire.

“Obviously the choice is already made last night,” Evans said, “and then yeah after the first one we tried to drive quite smooth and then the wear was so massive, then at that point we knew we were a bit in trouble to be honest.”

But why did Toyota feel taking a full-soft package would work?

“I think mostly that the grip was so low yesterday morning and obviously the temperatures are so low here, but obviously the abrasion of the stages was still massive,” Evans replied.

“It was a mistake, as simple as that.”

[CeskyOndra]

In the last corner of camera outside footage we can see that Neuville was really saving tires here, others drove it fully under throttle

[meh]

I guess Tänak went to safe mode now for at least 2 stages in this loop.

[CeskyOndra]

It looks like Evans is really saving tires from outside.

[TypeR]

Seems a bit too much for Tanak..

[meh]

Seems a bit too much for Tanak..

... reality comes at the end of loop. At the moment there is also chance that Rovanperä overcooked his tires too much.

[Tauri_J]

Tänak looks really tidy and steady. Probably nursing the tires

[CeskyOndra]

All of them are really clean except Kalle, he was more agressive

[wwbroe]

They are all nursing their tires, let's see at the end of the loop who does it the best.

[Dontcut]

What if Tänak tries to avoid using 2 hard tyres in the trunk.

[Rallyper]

Smth wrong for Oliver? Or being too cautious?

Edit: Or maybe smart?

[Tauri_J]

What if Tänak tries to avoid using 2 hard tyres in the trunk.

Avoid? Obviously he uses them in this loop

[Dontcut]

Avoid? Obviously he uses them in this loop
Do they have enough hards for tomorrow?

[linni]

What if Tänak tries to avoid using 2 hard tyres in the trunk.

Cannot avoid once you made your choice of 6 tyres.

[EstWRC]

Seems to me that Tänak was little bit surprised the others went so fast or that we was that slow

He must also up the pace a little otherwise the gap will melt down

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Given his lead from Suninen and Neuville it was fine from Tanak. Better safe early on and push later.

[Tauri_J]

Do they have enough hards for tomorrow?

Sure they have but we can only guess who has more. Tomorrow is a short day anyway

[CeskyOndra]

I think that hards aren't needed for tomorrow

[wwbroe]

Warm moment for Thierry

[meh]

Suninen and Evans pushing..

[seb_sh]

Even if they all took 6 hards there are still different strategies to use the tyres, quite interesting. Also fun speculation on the forum :D

Reminds me of when Ogier or Loeb would use the tyres a lot less and then gain time naturally as the others would have too worn tyres in the final part of the stage or leg.

[meh]

I think Neuville need to go all-in on the next one. Suninen maybe goes to far already and Evans is too close behind.

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville dont care about Suninen, he just wants podium. So he has to hold Evans back