WRC3 news & rumors 2023

[Sulland]

First season with WRC3 competition also on cars, with Renault/Alpine coming in.
One team will have very good support from Alpine I guess.

Ford coming with upgraded car, and the Clio looking good in tests.
Looking forward to a good season in the Rally3 category in WRC!!

Have anyone any drivers that has signalled particpation in WRC3?

[ictus]

Since the Clio gets the homologation on 1.04 I don't think any title contenders will be behind the wheel of a Renault

[PLuto]

We will see how many drivers (outside of JWRC) will be interested in this championship...

[Bartolbia84]

Fotia probability start in wrc3 junior

[Sulland]

My bet is Franseschi in WRC3. If nothing else to gain experience and collect data.

[manthey]

Mabellini?

[Bartolbia84]

Mabellini?

Probability ERC

[wyler]

i'd like to see crugnola after he partly devolped the clio

[manthey]

i'd like to see crugnola after he partly devolped the clioMe too and I would like also on Wrc2 championship

[AnttiL]

We will see how many drivers (outside of JWRC) will be interested in this championship...

Roope Korhonen, supported by Rautio

[Bartolbia84]

https://twitter.com/RallyinAfrika/status/1595398368787849221?t=hSqAaMo6v5i9sqOrxHL4nQ&s=19

[WRCStan]

Since the Clio gets the homologation on 1.04 I don't think any title contenders will be behind the wheel of a Renault

They'll only do 4/5 rounds, so anything still possible.

[dupanton]

Louvel is quite quick, but crashes often. Unlike most French, he is better on gravel than Tarmac I think. Curious to see where he will get.

[mousti]

Tom Rensonnet Junior BRC champion this year has entered the 2023 JWRC championship.

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[Danny0405]

Tom Rensonnet Junior BRC champion this year has entered the 2023 JWRC championship.

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Does someone have a global view of the JWRC candidates?
We know that are rumored or confirmed
- Pellier (as ERC4 Junior champion)
- Rensonnet
- The 3 backed by African Federation including Louvel (a bit particulier case as he drove mostly in France)
- William Creighton
- Max McRae
- Toni Herranen
- others?

[Bartolbia84]

Does someone have a global view of the JWRC candidates?
We know that are rumored or confirmed
- Pellier (as ERC4 Junior champion)
- Rensonnet
- The 3 backed by African Federation including Louvel (a bit particulier case as he drove mostly in France)
- William Creighton
- Max McRae
- Toni Herranen
- others?

Korhonen
Fotia ?

[rp]

Korhonen
Fotia ?

Korhonen only WRC3

[Danny0405]

Diego Dominguez will join the contenders in Junior WRC, he did some WRC3 outings last year.
https://www.wrc.com/fr/news/2022/junior-wrc/dominguez-vise-le-junior-wrc-en-2023/

[AnttiL]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm4sNMarLBX/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

Toni Herranen WRC3

[Danny0405]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm4sNMarLBX/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

Toni Herranen WRC3

But not Junior?

I also see in the entry list of the Arctic Rally Eamonn Kelly, the 2022 GB Junior champion, with a Fiesta Rally3 registered by Motorsport Ireland.
In some interview three weeks ago, he was talking about doing the GB championship in Polo R5; but this entry in Arctic looks a lot like a preparation for Sweden...

[wyler]

But not Junior?

I also see in the entry list of the Arctic Rally Eamonn Kelly, the 2022 GB Junior champion, with a Fiesta Rally3 registered by Motorsport Ireland.
In some interview three weeks ago, he was talking about doing the GB championship in Polo R5; but this entry in Arctic looks a lot like a preparation for Sweden...

eamonn kelly confirmed
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/junior-wrc/irish-hotshot-kelly-latest-to-confirm-junior-wrc-assault/

[wyler]

creighton at junior again.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/junior-wrc/creighton-back-for-third-junior-wrc-attack/

[Andre Oliveira]

Raul Hernandez (Spain) announced JWRC.

[Andre Oliveira]

Rober Blach in JWRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmQe5_EXEAAxVhN?format=jpg&name=large

[Sulland]

What is the cost of JWRC in 2023?

[Kenneth]

Jan Černý to attend WRC3 again. He withdrew from Monte (before entry list was published) as he was only driver with Rally3 there.

[PLuto]

Jan Černý to attend WRC3 again. He withdrew from Monte (before entry list was published) as he was only driver with Rally3 there.

Not sure if he will attend WRC3...

[Bartolbia84]

WRC3/WRC3 Junior entry o rumors

Creighton (J)
Kelly (J)
Pellier (J)
Rensonet (J)
Hérnandez (J)
Blanc (J)
Dominguez (J + WRC3)
Herranen (J)
Korhonen (WRC3)
Kallio (3 event WRC3)

Rumors
Hokkala
Fotia
McRae
Wahome
Anwar
Louvel
Cerny

[WRCStan]

Maybe not Wahome. https://kenyan-post.com/2023/01/finally-rally-driver-maxine-wahome-faces-a-murder-charge-for-killing-her-boyfriend-and-veteran-rally-driver-asad-khan/

[Kenneth]

Filip Kohn (CZE) announced WRC Junior campaign.

With the car that Černý drove last year, so Pluto is right, probably. I was sourcing from Černý's press release, but it's true that part about WRC3 title bid is vaguely writen.

[Sulland]

If this list turns out to be reality, and we will get 15-20 Fords, and Renault will get out 3-5 cars their first year, Juniors and WRC3 will be fun to follow!


WRC3/WRC3 Junior entry o rumors

Creighton (J)
Kelly (J)
Pellier (J)
Rensonet (J)
Hérnandez (J)
Blanc (J)
Dominguez (J + WRC3)
Herranen (J)
Korhonen (WRC3)
Kallio (3 event WRC3)

Rumors
Hokkala
Fotia
McRae
Wahome
Anwar
Louvel
Cerny

[Andre Oliveira]

JWRC official teams revealed

Creighton / Regan
Munster / Louka
Rensonnet / Dumont
Pellier / Pelamourges
Kelly / Mohan
Dominguez / Peñate
Blach / Barreiro
Anwar / Din
Hernandez / Sanjuan

[Bartolbia84]

Munster 😱😱😱 very big surprise

[Danny0405]

Munster 😱😱😱 very big surprise

Apparently, Munster won’t do the full championship.
He has been registered to do Sweden but has announced his WRC-2 program including Croatia and Sardinia.
And a point will be done after Kenya for maybe a Rally1 outing at the end of the year.

[WRCStan]

JWRC could do with it's own thread. This isn't WRC3 news & rumours!

[TypeR]

JWRC could do with it's own thread. This isn't WRC3 news & rumours!
JWRC are driving same cars and maybe even getting more attention than just regular wrc3 drivers..

[WRCStan]

JWRC are driving same cars and maybe even getting more attention than just regular wrc3 drivers..

Oh Ok carry on then lol.

[dimviii]

A successful maiden public outing for Clio Rally3

https://www.cliorally.com/a-successful-maiden-public-outing-for-clio-rally3.html

[Bartolbia84]

Fabio Schwarz start 5 events wrc3 with Fiesta rally3

[Thousandlakes]

Ford has announced that fiesta has around 235hp with 1.5 liter (3cyl) engine and Renault has announced that clio has 260hp with 1.33L engine. (4cyl). How is it possible? They have different restrictors (officially 31mm) or this is just typical politics from manufacturers? If looking just those numbers I quess Clio is much faster. Anyone there knows how this goes? Anyway it is nice to see 2 Manus in rally3.

[AnttiL]

Ford has announced that fiesta has around 235hp with 1.5 liter (3cyl) engine and Renault has announced that clio has 260hp with 1.33L engine. (4cyl). How is it possible? They have different restrictors (officially 31mm) or this is just typical politics from manufacturers? If looking just those numbers I quess Clio is much faster. Anyone there knows how this goes? Anyway it is nice to see 2 Manus in rally3.

What about torque?

Rallying isn’t just about top power but also the engine usage range.

[Thousandlakes]

Can add weight for those list also.


What about torque?

Rallying isn’t just about top power but also the engine usage range.

[becher]

What about torque?

Rallying isn’t just about top power but also the engine usage range.

Still it would be about 10% horsepower difference which would be huge. You also need to remember that torque an hp are directly linked so so just different characteristics (where is the torque/power in the rev range wouldn't be enough to explain the difference).

I think it is the usual, power figures in motorsport are useless. I suspect M-Sport gives the "power" figure that the class is suppose d to have and Renault slipped up and quotes more like the actual figure. Kind of like the 285hp Rally2 claims, yet on the dyno those produce about 320hp.

[ictus]

Ford has announced that fiesta has around 235hp with 1.5 liter (3cyl) engine and Renault has announced that clio has 260hp with 1.33L engine. (4cyl). How is it possible? They have different restrictors (officially 31mm) or this is just typical politics from manufacturers? If looking just those numbers I quess Clio is much faster. Anyone there knows how this goes? Anyway it is nice to see 2 Manus in rally3.

Did you also belive that all the 2litre WRCs had 300hp? ;)
Fiesta shows 250-260hp on the dyno

[Kras]

Ford has announced that fiesta has around 235hp with 1.5 liter (3cyl) engine and Renault has announced that clio has 260hp with 1.33L engine. (4cyl). How is it possible? They have different restrictors (officially 31mm) or this is just typical politics from manufacturers? If looking just those numbers I quess Clio is much faster. Anyone there knows how this goes? Anyway it is nice to see 2 Manus in rally3.

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt having more cylinders alow you to run a shorter stroke engine couplef with lighter moving parts which would allow it to rev higher and produce more power?

Wasn't that the main way they tunned cars for power before turbos? Big bore, short stroke

[dimviii]

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt having more cylinders alow you to run a shorter stroke engine couplef with lighter moving parts which would allow it to rev higher and produce more power?

Wasn't that the main way they tunned cars for power before turbos? Big bore, short stroke

its not that simple/More cylinders=longer/heavier engine

[Kras]

Yes, but the weight of the car has nothing to do with the power output. And they are already using balast anyway, so with a heavier car you reduce the balast

[dimviii]

Yes, but the weight of the car has nothing to do with the power output. And they are already using balast anyway, so with a heavier car you reduce the balast

so lets build 6 cylinder engines

[becher]

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt having more cylinders alow you to run a shorter stroke engine couplef with lighter moving parts which would allow it to rev higher and produce more power?

Wasn't that the main way they tunned cars for power before turbos? Big bore, short stroke
Yes it would, but with a turbo restrictor engine it is pointless to make a classic NA high reving engine as you wouldn't be reaching those revs anyway.