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TypeR
9th February 2023, 07:53
What the hell did Lappi eat for the breakfast? I really haven't seen anything like this in the past when conditions are pretty much equal...

Surströmming :D

TWRC
9th February 2023, 07:54
Suninen faster than Olvier on 2nd pass

Franky
9th February 2023, 08:00
Guys it's shakedown

Sent from my DN2103 using Tapatalk

No, it's fortune telling time.

AnttiL
9th February 2023, 08:42
Well I don't have as good overview of the route as AnttiL, but my impression is that shakedown is more technical and slow than most of the rally and with the conditions (soft ground and hard barriers) it is mostly about who bounces off the barriers more/better.

Yes. SS2/5 will be technical and of course the Umeå stages, but the rest will be way faster.

240RS
9th February 2023, 08:51
Lappi and Katsuta seem to have picked a trick or two from their warm up last week.

If they can keep up this pace, I will humbly eat my own words prior to this event :)

Fast Eddie WRC
9th February 2023, 09:40
With Kalle sweeping the stages and Thierry still feeling ill, then it's important for Ott to take full advantage tomorrow. Even if some others are fast here, these are his two main championship competitors.

Fredouye
9th February 2023, 10:09
A few photos from the shakedown. Nice surprise to meet my finnish friends :)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/d5e308a66892e6bf60024f5bbec610a4.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/e71807e8ec08c1d7f8bfb586bc927bb7.jpg
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/ce1c4c4de253e0302a48325315cc1056.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/b38c4be871f907f4859fedf43ac1738b.jpg

Sso
9th February 2023, 10:40
Is there any ice on the roads or is it just packed snow? If it's just snow, Kalle won't be happy tomorrow..

Skickat från min SM-G781B via Tapatalk

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 10:54
shakedown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irr2K7tnIEw

Rallyest
9th February 2023, 10:55
Good pace by Virves considering its his first outing with the car, last year i think he made 1 outing with Hyundai R5 in Estonia, but thats all.

jcevc
9th February 2023, 11:02
BTW, 15 cars with official OBC for live coverage.
9 Rally 1 and 6 Rally2 cars - Solberg, Vieby, Lindholm, Suninen, Huttunen and Linnamae.

mmm
9th February 2023, 11:08
The stages are very fast and snowbanks are hard... keeping the bodywork in one piece will be hard, but very important this time.

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 12:23
shakedown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIqspMHey44

Fast Eddie WRC
9th February 2023, 12:28
Craig Breen.@Craig_Breen

Really positive shakedown for Rally Sweden the car is feeling great, bring on the rally ! 🤩

Rallyper
9th February 2023, 12:52
A few photos from the shakedown. Nice surprise to meet my finnish friends :)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/d5e308a66892e6bf60024f5bbec610a4.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/e71807e8ec08c1d7f8bfb586bc927bb7.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/2f9843b5d69a2ac32fd7f09bd6410b43.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/ce1c4c4de253e0302a48325315cc1056.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230209/b38c4be871f907f4859fedf43ac1738b.jpg

Any friends I know also? Some pics? ;)

AnttiL
9th February 2023, 13:03
Any friends I know also? Some pics? ;)

Seems that all hardcore rally fans were in this corner. Teemu at least.

er88
9th February 2023, 13:12
I've been hyper critical of Msports /the Puma's reliability, but does anyone also think the car doesn't look right, or look that driveable? Maybe it'll take a few events for Tanak to find the optimal setups with a few upgrades.

It's something I noticed pre Monte, during Monte and even in Sweden tests. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as some on here about the actual dynamics of a car, and gauging through the 'eye test' can be a hit or a miss, but the car doesn't seem that well planted and it looks like it rolls a fair bit? Whereas that Yaris is absolutely glued to road.

*watch Tanak go and dominate the rally and win with ease now :)

mknight
9th February 2023, 13:31
Looking at Puma I mostly think of Focus 06-08. That car looked extremely sluggish and "slow". Yet it was just driving on rails and arguably was the best car of the period.

Yaris always looks more reactive, while still stable. Like a go-cart.

I20 seems to change from reactive to sluggish every other corner.

hari
9th February 2023, 14:04
Some pictures from Shakedown: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2023.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/1.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/6.jpg
https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/7.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/39.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/18.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2023/sweden/3.jpg

Rallyper
9th February 2023, 14:29
Reminder.
Pickems closing time at 1900 hrs CET.

I´m not able to lock the thread at correct time tonight, but obviously those who did come in late (after 1900) will not be counted.

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 14:41
Shakedown by Passats de Canto https://youtu.be/jTiJb5ihXcY

seb_sh
9th February 2023, 15:30
Might be a rally full of surprises with those hard snow walls and narrow roads combined with the relative fragility of rally 1 body parts.

jcevc
9th February 2023, 15:34
Might be a rally full of surprises with those hard snow walls and narrow roads combined with the relative fragility of rally 1 body parts.

Yes, I also thought about degraded aerodynamics with all this kissing of snowbanks and effect of this on superfast stages. Maybe sometimes better not to touch snowbanks and have whole car.

dimviii
9th February 2023, 16:01
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2023/photos/rally-sweden_2023/hfr_dsc_2921.jpg

https://www.ewrc-results.com//photo/79247-rally-sweden-2023/515/

https://www.ewrc-results.com//photo/79247-rally-sweden-2023/573/

seb_sh
9th February 2023, 16:19
Neuville already crash on the start ramp! :P

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 17:06
Ott says the ice is already broken

Tauri_J
9th February 2023, 17:08
Lappi touching bank with front end

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 17:10
Seems it was actually best to be first on the road.

Lappi all over the place

Tauri_J
9th February 2023, 17:12
Seems it was actually best to be first on the road.

Lappi all over the place

For sure better than SD. Shakedown had much more loose snow and less ice than SS1

erikli2
9th February 2023, 17:12
Unless there's loose snow on the surface, starting first is probably the best. Same reason why Tidemand was fastest overall in the Fabia R5 some years ago when he was first on the SSS.

Tauri_J
9th February 2023, 17:16
Wow Breen awfully slow

Fast Eddie WRC
9th February 2023, 17:16
Just a short stage but 2nd fastest should give Tanak a nice boost going into the rally proper.

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 17:18
Only a first stage but Breen showing the same pace as with puma last year

Fast Eddie WRC
9th February 2023, 17:29
Huttunen flying in the historic Skoda ! ;)

EstWRC
9th February 2023, 17:41
Not a bad stage from Virves, he has so little experience compared to other guys with this machine

dimviii
9th February 2023, 17:43
an ''old'' fabia and a polo faster till now.Lets see how this will evolve through the rally.

meh
9th February 2023, 17:48
Probably Veiby was fastest by the speed because he lost a bit because of engine misfire at the end.

I check the starting list - 2.5 (0.5 for Solberg) Swedes, what is the rallying situation in Sweden? Not that popular?

dimviii
9th February 2023, 17:52
no morning service so big problem for Veiby
https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1623757940522885120

Morte66
9th February 2023, 17:53
For a "super silly stage"... I've seen worse.

mknight
9th February 2023, 19:07
Huttunen flying in the historic Skoda ! ;)

One short stage means little but there certainly is some irony.
You invest a lot of money and a year of testing in a new car...and get beaten by 7 year old own car and 5 year old parent brand car.

Scaha
9th February 2023, 19:19
True, this one wasn’t like those stadium sss. It felt more like real rallying.

Scaha
9th February 2023, 19:29
If I’m honest I want to see more bad and slippery conditions. I think that then there would be domination by Kalle. He is his best compared to others when conditions are bad. Remember Kenya last year? That mudpath where everyone else were all over the place and Kalle went like on rails.

AnttiL
9th February 2023, 19:29
Seems it was actually best to be first on the road.


At least on this stage, like it was last year. It could be a different story tomorrow

seb_sh
9th February 2023, 19:36
At least on this stage, like it was last year. It could be a different story tomorrow

Might be good on the first run but bad in the afternoon. I understand it'll be colder Friday night. Let's see what happens.

Scaha
9th February 2023, 19:39
Still I hope to see a good battle within Tänak and Kalle. At this moment there aren’t drivers as fast as them overall.

jparerax7
9th February 2023, 20:37
Hey there! To those who attended SS1 Umea Sprint today and went to a spot outside the Red Barn Arena, what road did you take to walk there? Where did you park? Thanks a lot, tomorrow will be a great day!

SubaruNorway
10th February 2023, 04:17
Seems that all hardcore rally fans were in this corner. Teemu at least.

I was there also, filming behind Neuville, fast and bumpy just before that bump :)

Sulland
10th February 2023, 05:40
Any news from the Kristofferson Motorsport team regarding the engine in Veibys car?

skarderud
10th February 2023, 05:54
No, just a ready to race post at Facebook, hopefully its ok.

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wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:05
Good morning guys, let's hope we get a fantastic day of action.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 06:16
Morning. Let´s go!!!!

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:23
Good first split for Neuville

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:23
Wow Thierry already 3.5 up in spl1

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:26
Kalle says the stage is horrible

rp
10th February 2023, 06:26
How is it possible that Neuville so fast!

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:27
Neuville: lot's of cleaning in there

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 06:28
That powerline part of the stage reminds me of some small rallies I did in the past. Like in Skepptuna winterrally near Äspesta in the 90´s... (For swedes only) ;)

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:30
Ott is flying

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:31
Stage is becoming faster with every car

meh
10th February 2023, 06:33
If Lappi and Breen want to get something nice done, this is their chance

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:33
Let’s see Lappi and Breen now

AnttiL
10th February 2023, 06:34
TänakAttack

jonkka
10th February 2023, 06:34
Stage is becoming faster with every car

Definitely, if Taka's first split is anything to go by.

ELPE
10th February 2023, 06:34
Big problem for Evans, snow on the road!!!

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:38
I expected lappi to be faster TBH

TypeR
10th February 2023, 06:39
Big problem for Evans, snow on the road!!!

Unbeliveable right.. rally Sweden with snowy roads :D

meh
10th February 2023, 06:40
Breen is attacking... but I have a feeling, that Breen and Lappi will investigating some snow-banks sooner or later...

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:41
What a split for Breen

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 06:42
Breen at least showing speed, hope he stays on road

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:42
The stage is cleaning like on rally Mexico. Lol

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:42
Hope is not going to end up crashing

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 06:43
Well, Breen has to cool down a bit. Else he´ll not reach finish...

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:45
Grow up Breen FFS

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 06:45
Very emotional Breen. Seen it before. It´s humble and we like it.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:46
Breen: i am a very lucky boy to get this second chance

meh
10th February 2023, 06:46
So, it's friday and .. it's time for "friday heroes" to shine. Let's see what is the pace when Rovanperä is driving on equal road condition.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:48
Did Veiby get his problem sorted out?

I think he did, because same on splits as Oliver

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 06:50
Very emotional Breen. Seen it before. It´s humble and we like it.

It was humble the first couple of times


Now looked like 5 year old

meh
10th February 2023, 06:51
It was humble the first couple of times


Now looked like 5 year old

It is what is is - it's pure emotion revealed and released after stage end. It's important he can keep focus during driving.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:51
Great first split for Suninen

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:54
Huttunen even 0,1 faster then Suninen on split :)

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 06:55
But in the end it will be Emil who is fastest

meh
10th February 2023, 07:07
Really nice run by Pajari, just 1.1 from fastest (Lindholm)

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:07
Very good time for Sami Pajari as well, third time in Rally 2

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 07:16
Next one will tell us a lot. Totally different and superfast stage.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:21
Superfast, looks like a highway

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:21
Kalle did 2,02 over first five kms, that is some speedy stage

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:22
Thierry slower now on first split

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 07:25
Some 132 km/h average for Kalle on SS3

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:30
Some 132 km/h average for Kalle on SS3
Really fast stage, with long straights

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:30
Tanak slower as well on this one, completely different character of stage

meh
10th February 2023, 07:33
Kalle won a lot on the "airports" - long straights.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 07:33
Ott fastest between split 1-2 (so far) where there are more corners but in the end losing again when it’s just straight and flat out

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:34
Tanak: not completely happy with the car;)

meh
10th February 2023, 07:36
Tanak: not completely happy with the car;)

BS. He didn't say that. He said that "happy" is too strong word for him but "we are here". In translation - he IS happy with the car.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 07:38
Great to see Lappi doing well so far. Please keep it up

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:42
BS. He didn't say that. He said that "happy" is too strong word for him but "we are here". In translation - he IS happy with the car.

I think that is not really what he ment;)

meh
10th February 2023, 07:43
Only actual surprise so far is Evans. He seems to be a bit lost. Is it something affecting his concentration or some problem with car and he is trying to compensate it with overdriving.

Sulland
10th February 2023, 07:48
Do the drivers have different overhang of the studs to choore from, or are all the same?
If the same what overhang are they?

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:55
Emil Lindholm went off into snowbank

TypeR
10th February 2023, 07:55
Lindholm out of victory game..
Went to snowbank and front full of snow

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 07:58
Very good time for Oliver on this one, nobody coming even close

meh
10th February 2023, 08:00
Emil Lindholm went off into snowbank

Seems that we can see things really differently :) Instead of "went off" I would say he "visited snowbank", as he continued driving. Just had to stop for cleaning radiator from the snow.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 08:00
Airintake stucked, they said.

Riita: "But we are here...!"

"Line of the year, so far" Becsy said.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:02
Seems that we can see things really differently :) Instead of "went off" I would say he "visited snowbank", as he continued driving. Just had to stop for cleaning radiator from the snow.
:D

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:08
What happened with Pajari?

Edit: he has no time but there is comment from him at stage end?

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 08:10
Disappointed in Kaur and Linnamae times so far. Virves isn’t far away from them with a Ford and first time competing in wrc2 class

Sulland
10th February 2023, 08:10
What is the max speed from the different cars?

I am guessing they all have the long top gear installed due to all the topspeed long straights.

Fredouye
10th February 2023, 08:16
A few photos from SS2

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/32a56ed96353c9ac31452a06e2d80bee.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/a2ce97f1ac6f00a305bf78f07c24fbe8.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/9ccfa6a5bb5566ae66e3678bda53f64b.jpg

Fredouye
10th February 2023, 08:24
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/6ad16961f7017e2d01b330650f5ec034.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/ab3f7143accf7fbd81bab9884f15f61f.jpg

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:25
Really nice pictures, good work

AnttiL
10th February 2023, 08:28
What happened with Pajari?

Edit: he has no time but there is comment from him at stage end?

7th fastest, overall 5th fastest

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:29
7th fastest, overall 5th fastest
Yeah, they showed his time on the board now

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:47
What happende with Korhonen?

rp
10th February 2023, 08:51
What happende with Korhonen?

Fastest so far

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 08:54
Fastest so far
Thanks

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 09:02
Average speed again 129 km/h for Kalle

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 09:06
These stages are made for Toyota. Even Taka smashes

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 09:13
Great morning from Tänak

What is interesting that yesterday at umea sprint and also today at icey stages kalle wins most of the time with first split and then doesn’t gain as much with other half

ouvreur
10th February 2023, 09:15
Evans and Neuville seem lost. Nice to see Katsuta getting into the groove!

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 09:23
25km stage and top5 separated by 1.9 seconds

meh
10th February 2023, 09:26
These stages are made for Toyota. Even Taka smashes

... and Evans is a bit nowhere and for almost 26km stage top5 (inc 3 different cars) is in 1.9sec. Rovenperä got disadvantage for sure, but good stage from Taka!

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 09:32
Oliver very quick again

Rallyest
10th February 2023, 09:33
The pacenotes delivery by Reeta is just amazing :D

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 09:34
See the splits of Kaur, where is that coming from?

Edit: apparently he was struggling with powersteering issue?

Rallyest
10th February 2023, 09:37
Kaur going on a attack

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 09:38
Good splits for Pajari as well

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 09:39
Kaur is so inconsistent. He has these stages where he is superfast but usually loses a lot of time at the start of rallies and then fights an uphill battle rest of the way.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 09:44
Sami Pajari with besttime in Rally2, beating Oliver by 0,4 sec

240RS
10th February 2023, 09:47
That stage win by Katsuta does truly feel like a water-shed moment.

Unlike his previous stage wins, this one felt like it was won the hard way. No 'ifs' or "buts'.

This could be his breakthrough year.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 09:51
Decent morning for Tanak in that he leads and has no car issues. But pulling just 4.7sec over Rovanpera is far from decisive.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 09:51
A man with a head


#29
Virves Robert - Magalhães Hugo
"I'm not really trying to be competitive with the fastest guys, i'm just trying to enjoy myself and the car. If we continue like this, then we will get to grips with it. We are getting better, the car is faster and there are a lot of wrong notes for the car. We will get there."

denkimi
10th February 2023, 09:54
That stage win by Katsuta does truly feel like a water-shed moment.

Unlike his previous stage wins, this one felt like it was won the hard way. No 'ifs' or "buts'.

This could be his breakthrough year.
I highly doubt he will ever have a breakthrough year. But he could still have a future in wrc, just look at sordo.

Rallyest
10th February 2023, 09:59
I highly doubt he will ever have a breakthrough year. But he could still have a future in wrc, just look at sordo.

I mean nobody expects him to come to the level of Tänak, Rovanpera, Ogier or Evans. But breakthrough as consistent second or third driver is a big possibility and if he could bring a podium or 2 the "real way" on a real rally then next year could be good for him

seb_sh
10th February 2023, 10:00
Good rally so far, nice fight. I see people don't have faith in Lappi and Breen but they seem to be going well to me. Breen seems his old self again in this car.

240RS
10th February 2023, 10:03
I mean nobody expects him to come to the level of Tänak, Rovanpera, Ogier or Evans. But breakthrough as consistent second or third driver is a big possibility and if he could bring a podium or 2 the "real way" on a real rally then next year could be good for him

Totally agree. The breakthrough isn't in terms of beating the recognised top dogs, but good enough not to be seen as Toyota's development driver.

seb_sh
10th February 2023, 10:07
Totally agree. The breakthrough isn't in terms of beating the recognised top dogs, but good enough not to be seen as Toyota's development driver.

He can earn himself a place in the team and be there for some years until the next generation of Japanese drivers gets to the point they can replace him.

meh
10th February 2023, 11:10
The pacenotes delivery by Reeta is just amazing :D

and not only pacenote delivery, but the positive attitude and support in the car. Full of energy, full of positivity, having fun, being clear and strict at the same time. Enjoyable to watch (even it's hard to keep serious face when listening the delivery) and I think a lot of guys should learn from her.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 11:11
and not only pacenote delivery, but the positive attitude and support in the car. Full of energy, full of positivity, having fun, being clear and strict at the same time. Enjoyable to watch (even it's hard to keep serious face when listening the delivery) and I think a lot of guys should learn from her.

Well said.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 11:50
So what are the expectations for the afternoon loop

I have a feeling Breen will lead maybe at the end of the day. It all depends how much time he will gain with the first stage right away.

Tänak maybe could hold Rovanperä behind him but that also depends a lot of the first stage

Will be interesting anyway

Rallyest
10th February 2023, 12:11
So what are the expectations for the afternoon loop

I have a feeling Breen will lead maybe at the end of the day. It all depends how much time he will gain with the first stage right away.

Tänak maybe could hold Rovanperä behind him but that also depends a lot of the first stage

Will be interesting anyway

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak-worried-he-will-lose-his-rally-sweden-lead/?fbclid=IwAR0JjGTN3Akk5gTiKMnC_kmIcPsWXWP6kQSx8nij QrAsJL-SOoet5iy_38o

Tänak not so confident going to afternoon loop, could be some kind of mind play he is known to play maybe? not sure

Lappi on the other hand says he can put out more, hope he doesnt bin it on the way

AnttiL
10th February 2023, 12:13
SS5 and SS7 will be difficult for Rovanperä. SS6 maybe a bit easier. Breen and Lappi could indeed well lead the rally. And what will Katsuta do? And how will the conditions differ on the Umeå Sprint stage, will Rovanperä get time back?

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:38
So what are the expectations for the afternoon loop

I have a feeling Breen will lead maybe at the end of the day. It all depends how much time he will gain with the first stage right away.

Tänak maybe could hold Rovanperä behind him but that also depends a lot of the first stage

Will be interesting anyway

Breen will perform worse is my bet. Ott and Kalle under 5 sec. Someone from Rally1 will crash.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 12:39
I think stages are quite more rutted, so more difficult...

meh
10th February 2023, 12:39
I think 2nd loop is more difficult to Rovanperä (and Neuville, Evans, Tänak) compared to Lappi and Breen, as now they need to cleanup the road from smaller car excursions and tracks.

Tänak is more down to the Earth. Breen is more "PR-driver".

It is interesting as it stands at the moment and as it may happen that both Breen and Lappi are taking points away from the lead Hyundai driver. But, they Both need to finish first.

meh
10th February 2023, 12:43
Hint how bad it is: Rovanperä 1st split this time 3:14. On 1st run his 1st split was 3:08 and best one was 3:01.

As Neuville is 5.3s faster, maybe some extra mistake from Rovanperä.

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:46
So rutted. Look how Neuville is bouncing that car, like pinball lol

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:47
Traction has left the chat :D

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:48
Neuville is crazy

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 12:48
Ogier would be going apeshit if he was driving first here

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 12:50
Just surviving says Neuville

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 12:53
Come on Ott !

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:56
No damage for Ott

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 12:56
Taka off.

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 12:57
And Theres that crash

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 12:58
Expected.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:00
A lot of damage, wonder if he will make it to the end of the day

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 13:00
Steam probably from melting snow.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 13:01
A lot of damage, wonder if he will make it to the end of the day

Gonna lose loads of time anyway.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:01
Good first split for Loubet

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 13:02
Come on Loubet ! :D

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:03
What a first split for Breen

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:03
Breen will lead after this stage

Incredible cleaning this year on this rally

meh
10th February 2023, 13:04
I just don't enjoy this not equal road positions...

erikli2
10th February 2023, 13:05
I just don't enjoy this not equal road positions...

Welcome to rallying :D

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 13:05
Like train tracks, huge gains to be made when drivers can keep in the line

jonkka
10th February 2023, 13:05
Taka lost rear wing, that alone will make it very difficult for him in the fast stages to come.

er88
10th February 2023, 13:06
Absolutely love to see this from Breen, after how bad last season was

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 13:07
I just don't enjoy this not equal road positions...

Imagine If all stages were like this. Its rather good we have these boring fast stages too.

meh
10th February 2023, 13:09
Bertelli is faster than Rovenperä in 1st split. Blah.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:09
Absolutely love to see this from Breen, after how bad last season was

I remember him sending SMS to Millener after msport test how amazing the car is but somehow the season didn’t reflect that

Now the same word again.

bandit12
10th February 2023, 13:12
Kjar is always ömeizing for him 😃

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 13:13
https://m.facebook.com/groups/EnthusiastsofRallySweden/permalink/8624781297596350/?ref=share

Taka's roll

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:15
How is the condition for tomorrow stages? The same as today?

jcevc
10th February 2023, 13:16
Suninen in big technical problems, going slow.

meh
10th February 2023, 13:16
Kjar is always ömeizing for him ��

Mostly during friday from good starting position.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:17
Problmes for Suninen, Veiby had a spin

RS
10th February 2023, 13:18
Good to see All Live giving good coverage of WRC2 this weekend.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 13:22
Aahh. Linnamae doing well in 2nd loop. (Except from one mistake in the end..)

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:22
Kjar is always ömeizing for him

But this time he is also showing it while last year he said it all the time but the times didn’t reflect

I think the good starting position + the fact he doesn’t have the pressure being lead driver is giving him good boost. He is driving good too

jcevc
10th February 2023, 13:23
For me man of the rally until now Huttunen with his `oldtimer´.

seb_sh
10th February 2023, 13:24
Breen!

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 13:25
For me man of the rally until now Huttunen with his `oldtimer´.

Well, it´s not so much differing anyway.. Or is it?

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 13:26
Nice to see WRC+ live at the roadside.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:29
Virves didn't start the stage at his position?

Edit: he started 10 mins late

denkimi
10th February 2023, 13:30
For me man of the rally until now Huttunen with his `oldtimer´.
I would rate pajari higher here.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:38
Virves didn't start the stage at his position?

Edit: he started 10 mins late

Some kind of problems unfortunately

dimviii
10th February 2023, 13:39
Taka trying to repair yaris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDBHhTZnKs&t=50s

dimviii
10th February 2023, 13:41
Taka seems has coolant leaking and trying to repair

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:46
Virves with good stagetime, but 1min20 penalty.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 13:47
Kalle 11 sec slower then in first pass

meh
10th February 2023, 13:48
Now it's getting dark really fast and first ones have better vision.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 13:51
Tanak pushing hard !

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 13:52
Thats tänakattack

Simmi
10th February 2023, 13:55
Ott nearly obliterated someone's garage there and Becsy didn't bat an eyelid!

jonkka
10th February 2023, 13:55
Interesting how nothing changes with Neuville - he's still slowest of the Hyundai drivers and he still complains.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 13:56
Taka out today.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 13:57
Ott lost that second in those two corners

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 13:58
Yeah he was driving like Neuville and overdriving

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 13:59
I think WRC+ have stepped up their coverage . Right?

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 14:01
Lappi will not also pass Tänak with this

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 14:02
"Misjudged..."?

No. Missed breakingpoint and overshot.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 14:04
Lappi saying same as Neuville, lot of understeer

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 14:04
Lappi saying same as Neuville, lot of understeer

Breen seems the only one who is happy with the car

Essaj
10th February 2023, 14:05
"Misjudged..."?

No. Missed breakingpoint and overshot.

Whats the difference? :confused:

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 14:10
Bertelli also into snowwall, but got out with some help from spectators

meh
10th February 2023, 14:11
Interesting how nothing changes with Neuville - he's still slowest of the Hyundai drivers and he still complains.

You can not really compare Neuville's (pure driving) times with Lappi and Breen, road position is just so different.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 14:13
I think WRC+ have stepped up their coverage . Right?

A bit yes... still the annoying comms though.

denkimi
10th February 2023, 14:13
Breen seems the only one who is happy with the car
He says its like driving on rails. And that could very well be real if the ruts are deep enough that you can lean on them.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 14:14
Breen seems the only one who is happy with the car

The extra days testing when Neuville was ill maybe the difference.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 14:16
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/8f577c056271abbcf7b64377acdd2aca.jpg

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 14:17
Whats the difference? :confused:

Well, they talked about wrong pacenotes and so on...

AndersX
10th February 2023, 14:21
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/8f577c056271abbcf7b64377acdd2aca.jpg

Wrc+ commentators did not even noticed this - they chat about everything else and react with delay. A bit annoying. Otherwise, seems that rally is more "live" at this moment. Things happen.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 14:31
Another besttime for Sami Pajari in Rally 2, very good performance

Fredouye
10th February 2023, 15:01
A few photos from SS5

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/9e259219b8414273e3924d3be5e8893b.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/82ad70a7d585e1853c57647fceafeb7f.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/b58f08e268bdd5338b2d63de6c452e1f.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/db74ace988983121bf6036321b8af77e.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230210/9d7ad10c25e24cfc10ef2f3a921393e4.jpg

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 15:03
Really not so nice conditions on the stage

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 15:10
Gravel coming through here...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FonbMVbX0AANVcS?format=jpg&name=large

Sulland
10th February 2023, 15:11
Running the same stages two time in same rally is ok on asphalt and gravel (most times), but on snow, with 50+ 4wd Rally1/Rally2 cars, it is too much. So for rally at WRC level they must run all stages 1 time.

wwbroe
10th February 2023, 15:11
No splits for Herranen?

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 15:20
Running the same stages two time in same rally is ok on asphalt and gravel (most times), but on snow, with 50+ 4wd Rally1/Rally2 cars, it is too much. So for rally at WRC level they must run all stages 1 time.

Big no.
Why would´nt the top drivers be able to handle these conditions which every amateur driver in Nordic countries have to deal with every weekend rally in winthers?
Is it harder for these professionals to be able to drive in conditions like this?
These are the specific conditions belonging to rallies held in this time of the year. As tarmac and gravel...

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 15:20
Running the same stages two time in same rally is ok on asphalt and gravel (most times), but on snow, with 50+ 4wd Rally1/Rally2 cars, it is too much. So for rally at WRC level they must run all stages 1 time.

Definetily not all

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 15:22
Lucky Neuville.

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 15:22
Jesus christ Neuville has lots of luck today

meh
10th February 2023, 15:25
Jesus christ Neuville has lots of luck today

Need to be smart - if you remove car nose, it will not get (that) stuck in the snowbank.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 15:26
Tanak is coming pretty fast.

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 15:28
Yeah Thierry, clean run....

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 15:30
I must say so far we´ve got a big successful show today! :) :)

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 15:34
Great run Ott.

Kras
10th February 2023, 15:36
Otts driving looks like hes gonna go off at every corner. That would be alarming for any other driver, but for him it means hes in the zone

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 15:37
Ott is amazing

Kras
10th February 2023, 15:44
Nice choke there Craig

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 15:46
Tanak has nearly halved Breen's lead !

meh
10th February 2023, 15:46
Stage win for Tänak, first one with Puma I guess. The jar is opened now.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 15:48
First stage win for Tänak and Msport this season

Seemed to me Breen tires were gone

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 15:50
Otts driving looks like hes gonna go off at every corner. That would be alarming for any other driver, but for him it means hes in the zone

How, he looks rather boring. Last one he had some monents but other than that he looks like on rails. Look at Lappi or Neuville If you want some thrills.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 15:53
@Oliver: Keep going like this. It´ll be fine!

seb_sh
10th February 2023, 15:54
is it just my impression or do a lot of drivers seem happy with there they are and how they are doing this year? Breen, Tanak, Solberg, Evans, Rovanpera maybe even Lappi a bit

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 16:03
is it just my impression or do a lot of drivers seem happy with there they are and how they are doing this year? Breen, Tanak, Solberg, Evans, Rovanpera maybe even Lappi a bit

Why wouldn´t they? Except from Kalle...

doubled1978
10th February 2023, 16:23
How, he looks rather boring. Last one he had some monents but other than that he looks like on rails. Look at Lappi or Neuville If you want some thrills.

I agree, he has been really clean and smooth all day from what I have seen, except those two corners!
His car seems to have most of the parts still attached, Neuville‘s looks like it’s driven through a war zone!

seb_sh
10th February 2023, 16:48
Why wouldn´t they? Except from Kalle...

Just noticing didn't mean they should not be. Last year Tanak was more and more pissed of at Hyundai, Breen was more and more unsettled, Lappi was saying he has no chance against Kalle, Evans was not comfortable in the car, Solberg under pressure at Hyundai. We'll see how it goes but things seem more balanced.

meh
10th February 2023, 16:52
..., Neuville‘s looks like it’s driven through a war zone!

Yeah, like some zombie - by visual it should be dead, but still moving.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 16:54
Hopefully not tempting fate, but there's also been no real technical issues for anyone here either (just Loubet no hybrid).

meh
10th February 2023, 16:57
Hopefully not tempting fate, but there's also been no real technical issues for anyone here either (just Loubet no hybrid).

There have been many in WRC2 field - Veiby yesterday, Suninen today, Kaur's powersteering and probably some more.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 17:00
Yet another crap Friday for Neuville and a fightback required.

EstWRC
10th February 2023, 17:05
Great day from Tänak. Definitely can fight for the title with this car

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 17:05
Lappi all over the place

Fast Eddie WRC
10th February 2023, 17:09
Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin
"Result-wise, we can definitely be quite happy. It's much more than we expectred coming here. But the thing is that we could be a lot better."

denkimi
10th February 2023, 17:12
Yet another crap Friday for Neuville and a fightback required.
Only 6 seconds behind rovanpera. It could be worse.

Rallyper
10th February 2023, 17:14
Just noticing didn't mean they should not be. Last year Tanak was more and more pissed of at Hyundai, Breen was more and more unsettled, Lappi was saying he has no chance against Kalle, Evans was not comfortable in the car, Solberg under pressure at Hyundai. We'll see how it goes but things seem more balanced.

Aaahhh. You mean in a positive way, then? Sorry for misunderstood.

Tauri_J
10th February 2023, 17:15
Bertelli drunk? Something broken probably lol