[WRC] RallyRACC Catalunya - COSTA DAURADA

[Andre Oliveira]

67 entries

https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/73368-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2022/

[WRCStan]

Is this the first time a WRCar has popped up this season? My memory is shite.

5 Pumas.

No Ingram.

WRC3 Open showdown.

[pantealex]

Is this the first time a WRCar has popped up this season? My memory is shite.

5 Pumas.

No Ingram.

WRC3 Open showdown.

1x DS 3 WRC has entered before but didn't start, so it's 1st.

Lindholm is bit closer to be WRC2J Champion

[mknight]

Suninen first time on tarmac this year. Rossel taking part.

Else a bit disappointing, no Rally1 "wildcard", no new Fabia.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No Ingram.



Seems his 2022 season is over as he said recently he was having meetings about WRC2 2023, his 'biggest season ever.'

[Jarek Z]

Seems his 2022 season is over as he said recently he was having meetings about WRC2 2023, his 'biggest season ever.'

Good luck to him!

[AnttiL]

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-RACC-Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-2022

I will post my route preview soon but Saturday and Sunday are same as last year, as is one of the Friday stages, but another Friday stage is reversed and two others are new.

[WRCStan]

Seems his 2022 season is over as he said recently he was having meetings about WRC2 2023, his 'biggest season ever.'

Into Mikkelsen's seat ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good luck to him!

Ingram's end of season confirmed due to the hand injury and cost of car repairs after Acropolis crash...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjYq9FRrQ3N/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[AnttiL]

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-RACC-Rally-de-Espa%C3%B1a-2022

I will post my route preview soon but Saturday and Sunday are same as last year, as is one of the Friday stages, but another Friday stage is reversed and two others are new.

And here it is

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2022/10/10/route-preview-rally-catalunya-2022/

[dimviii]

“It is always difficult to find the correct balance there, so our confidence in the car will need to be high,” Tänak said.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-previous-tarmac-form-means-nothing-to-tanak/

[AnttiL]

“It is always difficult to find the correct balance there, so our confidence in the car will need to be high,” Tänak said.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-previous-tarmac-form-means-nothing-to-tanak/

I read this interview as "Hyundai will totally dominate this event" :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nil Solans is sadly out of RACC Rally Catalunya after a crash in today's PET in his Kowax Racing i20.

Aftermath...
https://youtu.be/i1WoYJuhhQU

[spyros]

Does really Breen has any chance to win?He's good on tarmac but he didnt find it with puma.I really hope for a good result maybe a podium.

[pantealex]

Does really Breen has any chance to win?He's good on tarmac but he didnt find it with puma.I really hope for a good result maybe a podium.

I hope he is fast but don't believe it.

[AnttiL]

Does really Breen has any chance to win?

No


He's good on tarmac
Only on national level

[Nelly]

He was second in Ypres last year *

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[PLuto]

Only on national level

This is not true. He can be fast also on international level. But only on some types for roads.

[AnttiL]

He was second in Ypres last year *

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It was a quite special case of knowing the roads while most other drivers did not.

[PLuto]

It was a quite special case of knowing the roads while most other drivers did not.

It is not only about knowledge of the roads. Craig can be very fast on bumpy tarmac roads.

[Eli]

It is not only about knowledge of the roads. Craig can be very fast on bumpy tarmac roads.

But this is more smooth tarmac, quite a difference to Corsica which he was relatively okay in, back in the day. Will be a tricky one for him, he hasn't done the event since 2018 and as a consequence he doesn't have the experience of the rally being full tarmac like the rest of the crews. It's going to be tough for him & Paul, fingers crossed, this time they can end Paul's (WRC) co-driving career on a high.

[AnttiL]

It is not only about knowledge of the roads. Craig can be very fast on bumpy tarmac roads.

But we haven't seen that speed in Croatia, or Ypres this year. To me it seemed like he was fast in Ypres last year because he had that advantage and this year it wasn't there anymore.

And yeah, Catalunya hasn't been a good event for Craig.

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[PLuto]

But this is more smooth tarmac, quite a difference to Corsica which he was relatively okay in, back in the day. Will be a tricky one for him, he hasn't done the event since 2018 and as a consequence he doesn't have the experience of the rally being full tarmac like the rest of the crews. It's going to be tough for him & Paul, fingers crossed, this time they can end Paul's (WRC) co-driving career on a high.

My reaction was to the topic if he can be fast only on national level or also international. Not if he can win in Catalunya.

[AnttiL]

My reaction was to the topic if he can be fast only on national level or also international.

I just don't see any good international tarmac results apart from Sanremo 2010, Ypres 2019 and Ypres 2021. Or are Galway etc. now international rallies? ;)

[PLuto]

I just don't see any good international tarmac results apart from Sanremo 2010, Ypres 2019 and Ypres 2021. Or are Galway etc. now international rallies? ;)

It is not so easy to find events with this charateristics in WRC. But we can mention also Circuit of Ireland 2016 and 2015, Rallye du Valais 2015...

But it is not only about the results, but about the speed. On such type of surface, he is capable to make good stage times.

[EstWRC]

The title fight is over and maybe the excitement is also gone but IMO we have really interesting rally ahead.

Nobody doesnt have to hold back anymore and can go flat-out, no tactics or games anymore. The favourites in my eyes are Rovanperä, Tänak, Neuville and Ogier but i cant put a certain bet which one of them will win it. We know how good Kalle is this season, now the pressure is also gone. Ott has been in fantastic form the second half of the season and he has been 2nd and 1st on two tarmac events this year, Thierry has won the event past 2 years and he is always very fast on tarmac, Ogier is for sure pissed off he doesnt a win yet this season and is going for it.

Tänak can also secure his 2nd position in the championship if he gets 1 point more than Thierry at the end of the rally and Evans doesnt get more than 27 points than Tänak.

[drive]

Anyone have a link to google maps?

[AnttiL]

Looks like some heavy rain tomorrow on Friday stages, but fairly dry albeit cloudy during the event.

[Rallyper]

SD delayed. Right now some safety type of car on the startline...

[wwbroe]

Kalle a lot faster then Ott, something to do with the tyres is suppose?

[Rallyper]

Tanak on full wets...
Edit: I might misheard...

[EstWRC]

Why Tänak was so slow ?

[TypeR]

Rain started and he had hards in full wet conditions

[EstWRC]

Tanak on full wets...

Nope

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221020/bfc14301e13bbb15cd8b9b4954ddd935.jpg

[Rallyper]

Nope

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221020/bfc14301e13bbb15cd8b9b4954ddd935.jpg

Yeah. Must´ve misheard...

[TypeR]

Obviously hards are wrong choice here, but why they chose them..?

Risk of not enough softs for rally?

[Rallyper]

Obviously hards are wrong choice here, but why they chose them..?

Risk of not enough softs for rally?

Surely. Save the best tyres for the rally...

[Tauri_J]

Looks like some heavy rain tomorrow on Friday stages, but fairly dry albeit cloudy during the event.

Which forecast? Im seeing maybe damp morning and thats it

[AnttiL]

Which forecast? Im seeing maybe damp morning and thats it

showing less rain now. Sorry, forgot to add the links.

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/hourly-table/2-3115073/Spain/Catalonia/Lleida/els%20Omells%20de%20na%20Gaia
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-6358906/Spain/Catalonia/Lleida/la%20Pobla%20de%20C%C3%A9rvoles
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-3111837/Spain/Catalonia/Tarragona/Riba-roja%20d'Ebre
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-3121216/Spain/Catalonia/Lleida/la%20Granadella

[TypeR]

Extra tyres yes, but at the moment just driving SD thru seems quite pointless.. won't get the correct feeling and feedback but okay, let's wait for tomorrow.. hopefully Toyotas are not minutes ahead then :D

[EstWRC]

Hyundais tactics are a mystery for me.

They really couldn’t afford to have one run at least on the soft tires?

[AnttiL]

Hyundais tactics are a mystery for me.

They really couldn’t afford to have run one the soft tires?

And with a largely dry rally coming up, doesn't seem like it's worth saving soft tyres? Or what do I know...but when Tänak said to Dirtfish that their car is not capable of competing against Toyota, to me it sounded like "we are so much faster than Toyota, but we say the otherwise to mess with them".

[Rallyper]

Pickems closing time is 08.30 CEST Friday morning. (3 mins before start SS1)

[Rallyest]

And with a largely dry rally coming up, doesn't seem like it's worth saving soft tyres? Or what do I know...but when Tänak said to Dirtfish that their car is not capable of competing against Toyota, to me it sounded like "we are so much faster than Toyota, but we say the otherwise to mess with them".

Well, with most of the stages under 15km and with not as warm weather as usual, those extra soft tyres could make a huge difference in the sunday. Also extra hard tyres could come handy in those 20+km stages on saturday. Probably won't see much difference on friday, but it could change alot on saturday and sunday

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone have a link to google maps?

http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-espagne-2022/

[EstWRC]

shakedown vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lt1TEJ_2HA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqvTByuXM4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4fdKFauJI

Ogier onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVlBIN5_5XI

[Negaiss]

If I could, I would place a high risk bet, that Ogier starts full season next year in team --------------------- Hyundai !

[HarriK]

Hello all!
Here we are , Salou Spain. Going to spend 9days holiday with my family and of course rally spectating also. This is now third time here, last visits 2017 and 2019.

One question, how will Iberian cup cars driven? Any itinerary for those?
Haven't seen so many FIA rallycars in same service area for a long time. IT was pretty nice.

CU in end of ss3 tomorrow!


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[PLuto]

Hello all!
Here we are , Salou Spain. Going to spend 9days holiday with my family and of course rally spectating also. This is now third time here, last visits 2017 and 2019.

One question, how will Iberian cup cars driven? Any itinerary for those?
Haven't seen so many FIA rallycars in same service area for a long time. IT was pretty nice.

CU in end of ss3 tomorrow!


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Iberian Cup cars are going in ERC field. They will start in a group behind whole WRC field. Here is itinerary: https://rally-base.com/2022/erc-rally-catalunya-2022/time-table/

[HarriK]

Iberian Cup cars are going in ERC field. They will start in a group behind whole WRC field. Here is itinerary: https://rally-base.com/2022/erc-rally-catalunya-2022/time-table/Ok,
start list then? Because I saw over 10 suzukis etc. Those are not erc category?

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[rage82]

Heading to ss3, then trying to catch rally1 and first wrc2 cars at ss5 and again watching the full field at SS7. Let's see if it's possible to make it.It was raining a little bit through the night so the stages might be a bit damp.

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[EstWRC]

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[meh]

... and here we go, enjoy guys!

[wwbroe]

Ott just a little slower at first split
Loosing 1,5 in the end

[wwbroe]

He is not feeling ok with the car

[TypeR]

He is not feeling ok with the car
stayed polite :D

[wwbroe]

Thierry on the other hand says the car is feeling quite ok:D

[EstWRC]

He is not feeling ok with the car

I knew it right away when he shaked his head after finish

[meh]

I knew it right away when he shaked his head after finish

... or in the 1st split when he was not the fastest? :)

[EstWRC]

... or in the 1st split when he was not the fastest? :)

I wrote after the finish not after the split. Put your glasses on or wake up

[meh]

I wrote after the finish not after the split. Put your glasses on or wake up

What is your problem? It is clear question and logic is simple - if Tänak is not the fastest, then usually he has some problem or something to complain. Simple as that. Breath.

[EstWRC]

What is your problem? It is clear question and logic is simple - if Tänak is not the fastest, then usually he has some problem or something to complain. Simple as that. Breath.

I have no problem.

This has nothing to do what time he did on this stage but his body language and Ott is very easily readable in that regard.

Like I said you could tell right after the finish when he even didn’t know Kalles time he wasn’t satisfied whatever the problem is, him, car, etc

[wwbroe]

Poor stage time for Gus

[rp]

Unfortunately Breen and all the other Fords are slow. Gus very slow, but Adrien even slower!

[er88]

Could be yet another long rally for Msport.....

[er88]

Nice time Lindholm

[wwbroe]

Nice time Lindholm

Really strong opening stage from Emil, Gryazin second fastest

[wwbroe]

What happened with Pepe Lopez?

[wwbroe]

Ott a lot slower now on second stage compared to Kalle

[meh]

A bit damp-slippy-wet-complicated conditions and Rovanperä goes his own way. Or at least Tänak can not match the pace.

[EstWRC]

So no interviews and they didn’t show what combination of tires they have ….

[Eli]

Seems the Puma is pretty twitchy, and overall they all seem to have a lack of grip.

[jonkka]

Yeah, Breen losing a lot too.

[TypeR]

Going for weird combination of tyres with Breen and Serderidis isn't really promising from the beginning..

[Tauri_J]

Could be yet another long rally for Msport.....

At least they're still running, thats a plus

[wwbroe]

Sordo not really doing so well either

[TypeR]

Sordo not really doing so well either

Too experienced? :D

[jonkka]

Too experienced? :D

Too far back in start order.

[wyler]

consider a bit the road condition for the late runners, bit of a dirt in many cuts...

[wwbroe]

Too far back in start order.
Just starting behind Ogier, so comparable road condition

[Rallyper]

Too far back in start order.

Wrong tyrechoice.
Why voluntary go with an unbalanced car?
serderidis, Tanak and Sordo... what a gang!

[Eli]

So no interviews and they didn’t show what combination of tires they have ….

What else is new with the WRC-? I'd bring back one of the stage end reporter, you know, the one that interviewed Ott when he won the championship back in Spain 3 years ago.

[EstWRC]

Wrong tyrechoice.
Why voluntary go with an unbalanced car?
serderidis, Tanak and Sordo... what a gang!

Ok Serderidis I get

But Tänak, Breen and Sordo …

[jonkka]

Just starting behind Ogier, so comparable road condition

Ogier is an old fox and oddball within the running order. Everyone running around the same position are way slower than him.

[wwbroe]

Ogier is an old fox and oddball within the running order. Everyone running around the same position are way slower than him.
That is certainly true, but Sordo is old fox as well;)

[jonkka]

That is certainly true, but Sordo is old fox as well;)

Old, certainly, but the other fox has more golden rabbit pelts to his name. Also, it seems that Toyota is overall the better car on tarmac.

[meh]

At the moment it seems, that it will be the fight between new king and old king.

Then Evans fighting with Hyundais and Taka with M-Sporters.

[wwbroe]

Flat tyre for Emil

[meh]

Lindholm seems to have right-rear puncture.

[TypeR]

Was cutting quite a lot also..
Gives other guys some hope :D

[wwbroe]

Emil went off after the tyre problem

[Rallyper]

Emil running again.

[meh]

If nothing wakes you up - just listen notes from Reeta Hämäläinen. One way or another you'll get awake - look how fast Emil was in 1st stage :)

[EstWRC]

At the moment it seems, that it will be the fight between new king and old king.

Then Evans fighting with Hyundais and Taka with M-Sporters.

Long way still to go and I wouldn’t definitely count out Neuville.

He is really good on this rally

[doubled1978]

Ogier has been impressive. You can see he is pushing to stay in touch and not lose too much time. The others are just trying to stay on the road.
It’s a shame these stages are the first in the rally as it’s spreading the field out right from the start…

[EstWRC]

And Ott didn’t put the three hards on for this stage

Wrong choice then, I mean wrong to take 3 hards this morning

[wwbroe]

Ott faster on first split

[seb_sh]

Ott coming back, and the others pretty close, looks like we have a fight :)

[meh]

Quite awesome how accurately Rovanperä said where is lost some time and where it was ok. Matched really well with split times compared to Tänak.

[EstWRC]

Ok it seems maybe two hard would have been even better choice for this stage :D

[wwbroe]

Ott taking a lot back on this stage

[wwbroe]

Ott saying hybrid is working on and off

[meh]

Hmm, based on Tänak' stage end interview there probably was problem with hybrid on previous stage.

[wwbroe]

Neuville taking the lead overall, but saying he has a lot of issues

[wwbroe]

Great first split for Ogier

[meh]

Neuville taking the lead overall, but saying he has a lot of issues

Need to wait Ogier first

[wyler]

Neuville taking the lead overall, but saying he has a lot of issues

not a lot. something like to tanak, he said no power exiting corner, probably a too "soft" map (i think relating hybrid)

[wwbroe]

Ogier is going to do it

[EstWRC]

Breen is totally lost this season and how confident msport where before the event

[wwbroe]

Ogier 3,3 faster as Thierry, so taking the lead

[EstWRC]

Did they show ogiers tyre voice?

[DoN_cz]

Did they show ogiers tyre voice?

4 soft

[wwbroe]

Less cutting on this one, so he had better rythm, but he says he is getting old :D

[wwbroe]

Strange thing is that in last two kms, Neuville was 1,3 sec faster as Ogier

[meh]

Less cutting on this one, so he had better rythm, but he says he is getting old :D

Loeb probably had small laugh for that

[EstWRC]

4 soft

Thanks.

It has been fairly interesting morning so far and the gaps are tight

[Lead]

Breen way off the pace... this season has been brutal for him.

[wwbroe]

Loubet with some kind of problem

Puncture, but says he didn't hit anything so doesn't understand

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Diabolical times by the M-Sport drivers. Things are going from bad to worse.

[Rallyest]

Diabolical times by the M-Sport drivers. Things are going from bad to worse.

Total disaster, wouldnt be surprised if Breen bins it trying to find some kind of speed to match Katsuta atleast. I kinda get it with Formaux, he is too scared of being benched, so he wont have the courage to touch the gas pedal

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Rossel, same as with Loubet he didn't hit anything.

[wwbroe]

Good performance by Alejandro Cachon, third overall in Rally 2

[wwbroe]

Ott just a little faster again as Kalle on first split

[Rallyper]

MSport have to change the whole squad for next year, except for possibly Loeb
(GG not mentioned here. He is casted in MSport overall and paying)

[wwbroe]

Neuville on a charge

[wwbroe]

According to Seb Marshall, alternator problem for Tanak

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Neuville sofar, let's see what Seb can do

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So nice to see Neuville happy with the car.

[EstWRC]

According to Seb Marshall, alternator problem for Tanak

I hope he will Reach the service. Standing still atm

[wyler]

according to Seb Marshall, oil leak for Neuville also

[EstWRC]

according to Seb Marshall, oil leak for Neuville also

But the is moving nicely on the maps I see

Tänak still stopped

[wwbroe]

Thierry taking the overall lead

[Fast Eddie WRC]

0.5s lead after a morning's rallying !

[wyler]

But the is moving nicely on the maps I see

Tänak still stopped

not really. parked up and working...

[meh]

not really. parked up and working...

Based on "Maps" in WRC+ Neuville is moving, Tänak is stopped. This replay was old I guess.

edit: and WRC+ showed wrong title, it was Tänak not Neuville.

[Essaj]

Based on "Maps" in WRC+ Neuville is moving, Tänak is stopped. This replay was old I guess.

No it was Tänaks car. Julien and Becs are just clueless

[Rallyest]

Based on "Maps" in WRC+ Neuville is moving, Tänak is stopped. This replay was old I guess.

According to Estonian live blog, neuville is working on his car also, and there is also a twitter post

https://twitter.com/paddock_inside/status/1583396515934265344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583396515934265344%7Ctwgr% 5E5e5419c9e48b79d0411debf55632ba4f5c16f9b8%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsport.delfi.ee%2Fa%2F1200839 64

EDIT: Sorry i think its Tänak's car. estonian flag on the rear window seems to visible also

[EstWRC]

Doesn’t look good for Ott. Ogier also passed him

[wyler]

Based on "Maps" in WRC+ Neuville is moving, Tänak is stopped. This replay was old I guess.

yep. sorry. reporting from live and was wrong info by them.

[seb_sh]

According to Estonian live blog, neuville is working on his car also, and there is also a twitter post

https://twitter.com/paddock_inside/status/1583396515934265344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583396515934265344%7Ctwgr% 5E5e5419c9e48b79d0411debf55632ba4f5c16f9b8%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsport.delfi.ee%2Fa%2F1200839 64

That's Tanak.

[wyler]

According to Estonian live blog, neuville is working on his car also, and there is also a twitter post

https://twitter.com/paddock_inside/status/1583396515934265344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583396515934265344%7Ctwgr% 5E5e5419c9e48b79d0411debf55632ba4f5c16f9b8%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsport.delfi.ee%2Fa%2F1200839 64

EDIT: Sorry i think its Tänak's car. estonian flag on the rear window seems to visible also

same pic, wrong info from live. that's tanak.

[Rallyest]

Tänak moving again on maps

[meh]

Based on "Maps" Tänak is moving. Any late to time-control penalties to expect?

[wwbroe]

Tanak moving again

[EstWRC]

Tänak moving again on maps

Now the question if there will be time penalties cause of being late

[wyler]

confirmed on live

[Rallyest]

Now the question if there will be time penalties cause of being late

How much time they have from stage end to time control?

[wwbroe]

Small fire for Loubet after the stage apparently

[wyler]

loubet stopped after stage using fire extinguisher in the engine bay

[er88]

So Tanaks and Neuvilles cars have small issues. Loubet in trouble..., Msport :(

[TWRC]

All the while this is a tarmac event, you'd expect this much technical problems on Acropolis after 4SS...

[EstWRC]

How much time they have from stage end to time control?

Don’t know the time but it’s around 100km

But it seems he should be okay. Has almost caught up with Neuville and Evans and not far from Kalle

[Rallyest]

I have not looked on live maps so intensely than i have the past 10 minutes

[AnttiL]

Sordo not really doing so well either

Sordo hasn’t really been quick on the Rally1 car on any surface. But he has made steady finishes rewarded with podiums

[seb_sh]

Sordo hasn’t really been quick on the Rally1 car on any surface. But he has made steady finishes rewarded with podiums

Yeah lately this is his pace but as others fall off at the end he's on or close to the podium.

[wwbroe]

Goog old Stephane Sarazin is doing well also

[flat_right]

Tänak said that he had to replace the alternator belt and this was the reason he was stopped. Luckily it was the end of the loop so he had some time. Had it been between the stages, then he would have had the same fortune as Loeb.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo hasn’t really been quick on the Rally1 car on any surface. But he has made steady finishes rewarded with podiums

Dipping in and out isn't easy and the car is still new. And does he have a lot of seat-time testing ?

[ouvreur]

Tänak said that he had to replace the alternator belt and this was the reason he was stopped. Luckily it was the end of the loop so he had some time. Had it been between the stages, then he would have had the same fortune as Loeb.

Depends... it doesn't look like he's had to completely dismantle the engine bay like Loeb had to in Greece!

[dimviii]

Dipping in and out isn't easy and the car is still new. And does he have a lot of seat-time testing ?
Loeb and Ogier hadnt too

[AnttiL]

Dipping in and out isn't easy and the car is still new. And does he have a lot of seat-time testing ?

He was faster on the old car with partial programs

[meh]

I had the same observation on Sordo - that we have not seen that competitive/fastest times.

But, maybe it's just a good balance on taking risks and providing results? 5 podiums (?) in rows is quite impressive result.

[dimviii]

He was faster on the old car with partial programs

Sordo is never fast when the surface is slippery,asphalt or gravel.
If it dries out he will be faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb and Ogier hadnt too

These are two legends so not really comparable.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo is never fast when the surface is slippery,asphalt or gravel.
If it dries out he will be faster.

This is more the reason here.

[focus206]

If Hyundai could fix these gremlins, we could have a proper fight next year... but easier said than done.

[flat_right]

Plus as Hyundai is a bit difficult to drive even for permanent drivers, then when you come and drive after a while, you might not have the feeling and there is no reason to push. Ford and especially Toyota are different animals in that sense.

[EstWRC]

Hyundai drivers with 4 hards and 2 softs

Dunno about the others but I predict quite the same

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmGF4oWAAACU5t?format=png&name=small

[dimviii]

they dont know how they punctured
https://twitter.com/Craig_Breen/status/1583405811434684418

[meh]

M-Sport is not afraid of "2 punctures and game over" on the 2nd pass?

[meh]

Anyone knows by hart the rules for WRC2?

https://www.wrc.com/en/results-standings/championship-standings/seasons/championship-standings/season-2022/wrc2/

Seems 6th rally for Kajto and Lindholm, so they have in theory one to go?

[wwbroe]

Anyone knows by hart the rules for WRC2?

https://www.wrc.com/en/results-standings/championship-standings/seasons/championship-standings/season-2022/wrc2/

Seems 6th rally for Kajto and Lindholm, so they have in theory one to go?

That is correct, i think they are both doing Japan

[wwbroe]

WRC Live not working anymore over here, anybody else has issues?

[Rallyest]

WRC Live not working anymore over here, anybody else has issues?

Yup, same. The quality of the WRC+ is amazing

[wwbroe]

Tanak up by 1,4 on Kalle at the end of the stage

[TypeR]

M-Sport is not afraid of "2 punctures and game over" on the 2nd pass?
They found out that 2nd spare was the reason to lose tons of time.. now they will show top3 times for sure!


That is correct, i think they are both doing Japan
Yes, both doing Japan. Lindholm has pretty good chance to win the title..(puncture didn't help tho)

[ouvreur]

Yup, same. The quality of the WRC+ is amazing

I see what you did there ;)

Same outfit that make i20 Coupe windscreen blowers?

[seb_sh]

Damnit WRC+ I made an effort to finish my work early so I could enjoy with no interruptions.

[meh]

Yup, same. The quality of the WRC+ is amazing

Was the same. Now refresh and works again.

edit: ... but now the Maps part does not work. ***

[Rallyest]

I see what you did there ;)

Same outfit that make i20 Coupe windscreen blowers?

Maybe the guys in charge of windscreen blowers are also in charge of wrc+? :D

[wwbroe]

Neuville loosing towards the end, was fastest on first split

[EstWRC]

Neuville loosing towards the end, was fastest on first split

Too cautious notes from gravel grew

[TypeR]

M-Sport saving money with 1 spare for all cars :D

[wwbroe]

Seems to work for Breen:p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen finally in the ball-park...

[Rallyest]

Wonder what the times would be if Tänak would feel 100% confident to go the extra mile regarding speed

[meh]

Wonder what the times would be if Tänak would feel 100% confident to go the extra mile regarding speed

Just think back to his Toyota times.

[240RS]

Stage 5 was 11km long.

Six seconds cover the first 11 cars. That's about half-a-second-a-kilometre.

Good going from all.

[EstWRC]

Raining now? Lindholm has wipers on

It’s so funny to listen to Reeta

[meh]

It’s so funny to listen to Reeta

I just can not be serious when I listen those. Imagine WRC-live is somewhere in public pub and suddenly those notes comes :)

And to be sure: nothing against it, whatever works for them and Lindholm can drive fast with those :)

[wwbroe]

I think Ewrc is not correct in times for Suninen and Lindholm, they have them with equal times, but Emil is a fair bit faster

[dimviii]

Stage 5 was dry and Sordo with 3 rd time 2.7 from Ogier.
Unbelievable that after so many years ,he cant find confidence when there is not enough grip

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stage 5 was dry and Sordo with 3 rd time 2.7 from Ogier.
Unbelievable that after so many years ,he cant find confidence when there is not enough grip

Many are the same.

But Ogier is the master of such conditions though.

[wwbroe]

Another great stagetime for Cachon

[denkimi]

Stage 5 was dry and Sordo with 3 rd time 2.7 from Ogier.
Unbelievable that after so many years ,he cant find confidence when there is not enough grip
There's a reason why he only has 3 victory's after 16 years and 169 wrc rally's.

[meh]

Stage is getting wet and slippy.

[EstWRC]

getting more slippy it seems

[wwbroe]

Kalle one place up, he had the dryer conditions, it was getting worse for Ott and Thierry

[EstWRC]

seems it stopped raining now?

[dimviii]

Stage is getting wet and slippy.
Some rain on stage sections according to wrc.com

[wwbroe]

Beginning of the stage seems dry, later on more damp or wet

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Must be drying if Taka is so fast.

[EstWRC]

Must be drying if Taka is so fast.

exactly and Ogier now with two softs :D

lucky again

[Fast Eddie WRC]

exactly and Ogier now with two softs :D

lucky again

Or smart...

[wwbroe]

Ogier not that fast on second split

[EstWRC]

surprsingly not faster

[Eli]

There's a reason why he only has 3 victory's after 16 years and 169 wrc rally's.

And only one of those was on tarmac.

[wwbroe]

Stage is becoming dryer now again

[janneppi]

There's a reason why he only has 3 victory's after 16 years and 169 wrc rally's.Does the reason start with L and end with oeb?

Sent from my Takapalk.

[dimviii]

Does the reason start with L and end with oeb?

Sent from my Takapalk.
What do you mean?

[wwbroe]

Tanak complaining about the car again

[EstWRC]

Tanak complaining about the car again

not really, said he doesnt even have idea how to make things better, seemed more complain of himself than car

[TypeR]

Tanak complaining about the car again
Not so straight tho, more like can't find a setup and therefore confidence..

Real complaining was couple of rallies ago :D

Neuville also losing time..

[denkimi]

Does the reason start with L and end with oeb?

Loeb has retired after 2012, that was 10 years ago.

The reason is sordo just doesn't have the speed of a tier one driver. Never had. He can be close sometimes and he's incredibly reliable, so he's a very good second driver. But he just doesn't seem to take the risks needed to be at the very top.

[EstWRC]

Neuville didnt sound really different from Tänak

Hyundai just isnt on Toyotas level yet, thats it

[TypeR]

Evans +25 in splits..
Puncture?

+38.5 at finish.. done for him again for this rally

Katsuta also puncture and hybrid shut off.
+42.3 at finish

Same for both, front left

Sordo also FL puncture, lost 2x less luckily

[wwbroe]

Ogier is only one that is faster on splits then Kalle

[meh]

Puncture lottery started..

[AnttiL]

This is more the reason here.

Sordo hasn’t been up to his usual speed on gravel either, in the Rally1 car compared to WRC cars

[wwbroe]

What happened with Cachon, he is not at start of stage 7?

[AnttiL]

SS5 avg speed 128.8 km/h, probably fastest WRC tarmac stage ever, at least in modern era

[EstWRC]

Hyundais just dont have the speed on afternoon, weird

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo hasn’t been up to his usual speed on gravel either, in the Rally1 car compared to WRC cars

He's not happy in dirty conditions though.

"It's very dirty and I don't have the feeling. I did my best and I can't really do much better."

And dirty it sure is ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmvJq6XkAAbix8?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle having fun going a bit wide ! :D

[wwbroe]

Tanak lost the hybrid again

[EstWRC]

even after changing it after the service....

[TypeR]

That little pos hybrid system again.. how can it have so much errors..

[EstWRC]

That little pos hybrid system again.. how can it have so much errors..

i reckon he has lost at least 10 secs because of it today

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Taka another one who doesnt like it dirty on tarmac, but has some good pace when its cleaner and he's confident.

[wwbroe]

Ogier 2,1 up on Kalle at second split

[Rallyest]

So both lead Hyundais struggling with confidence, what else is new

[EstWRC]

So both lead Hyundais struggling with confidence, what else is new

vintage Ogier is back?

[AnttiL]

He's not happy in dirty conditions though.

"It's very dirty and I don't have the feeling. I did my best and I can't really do much better."

And dirty it sure is ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmvJq6XkAAbix8?format=jpg&name=large

But for example in Monza 2020 and 2021 he was winning stages or getting constant top 3 times in the mountains

[meh]

Nice times from Loubet and Taka at the end of day.

Everyone still driving, no one crashed or retired. Even M-Sporters are still all on the road. Hyundais still moving... kind of.

[wwbroe]

Suninen leading Rally 2 going into second day

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/q5abDeABmmM

https://youtu.be/_PjnTJ3RDH8

https://youtu.be/jlCZWXCEOIc

[janneppi]

Loeb has retired after 2012, that was 10 years ago.

The reason is sordo just doesn't have the speed of a tier one driver. Never had. He can be close sometimes and he's incredibly reliable, so he's a very good second driver. But he just doesn't seem to take the risks needed to be at the very top.
2010 was the last season Sordo drove a full season in a competitive car.

After 2014 Sordo has driven what, one full season.
Two wins and 20ish podiums for a support driver is not bad when you hired mainly to bring factory points. .

Sent from my Takapalk.

[dimviii]

2010 was the last season Sordo drove a full season in a competitive car.

After 2014 Sordo has driven what, one full season.
Two wins and 20ish podiums for a support driver is not bad when you hired mainly to bring factory points. .

Sent from my Takapalk.

the ''problem'' is that when he was full driver had the same results.
a good second driver that didnt manage to find solutions to his weak points.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But for example in Monza 2020 and 2021 he was winning stages or getting constant top 3 times in the mountains

They were more the exceptions in his career than his performance here.

[Negaiss]

After 20 kms of super high speed drive through unknown road with trees and rocks on the sides the reporter asks: "You are 4 seconds slower than xxxx. Whats wrong, where did you loose time ?" - ------------ like every rally driver is similar and has to do same times. ----------- One is payed million dollars, and another pays million dollars just to drive in a world class team. I did not loose any time, my time is very good, but his time is just better.

[HarriK]

Today it was pretty wierd that nobody knew on stages whats gonna happen after erc cars.
Many suzukis(numbers from 130) and other cars right after erc crews. Still I do not have information of these Suzuki and toyota cars rally...

Then chequered flag car and a couple of other cars. Then we got info that historic cars have not driven ss1 (we were on ss3) and will not drive ss3 and we decided to leave. After 15minutes we heard historic cars passing by when we were still walking away.

Why is there so poor information on this rally?


Edit
Now I found more:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/79805-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-trophies-2022/

[AnttiL]

They were more the exceptions in his career than his performance here.

Catalunya 2019 https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/54472-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2019/?s=239049

Drivers, including Sordo, reporting of dirt on the road, and he's winning the stage against Tänak in a Toyota going for the world title.

We can see the same parallel with his technical gravel performance, he used to be leading rallies after Friday but not anymore.

[TypeR]

team principal having a morning meeting while some drivers/co-drivers having breakfast and waiting for orders :)

https://www.upload.ee/image/14604755/Screenshot_20221022-083757_Instagram.jpg

[mknight]

Catalunya 2019 https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/54472-rallyracc-catalunya-costa-daurada-2019/?s=239049

Drivers, including Sordo, reporting of dirt on the road, and he's winning the stage against Tänak in a Toyota going for the world title.

We can see the same parallel with his technical gravel performance, he used to be leading rallies after Friday but not anymore.

I believe Sordo said multilple times he is struggling with the hybrid boost, making him spin his wheels often.
That can line up with him historically being a bit worse in low grip conditions, cause that's when you need to be carefully with throttle.
Hybrid boost just exaggerates this.

[mknight]

team principal having a morning meeting while some drivers/co-drivers having breakfast and waiting for orders :)

https://www.upload.ee/image/14604755/Screenshot_20221022-083757_Instagram.jpg

You mean the guy on the left that is saying in media that his boss should not be his boss and go back to making engines?

[dimviii]

nice video
https://youtu.be/qzHINRQL2Jw

[eib1]

https://i.ibb.co/FDwJwkp/Untitled.jpg

[wwbroe]

Morning guys, is Ogier going to take another victory or will Kalle take this one?