2022 - Race 16 Italy (Monza)

[F1nKS]

How will Alpha Tauri and RBR collude to get Max the win?

Can Russell make a push for 2nd in the constructors? Only trails Leclerc and Perez by 13.

Is Ricciardo's continuing (non)performance mean he is out of racing in 2023?

Is Herta's rumor going to Alpha Tauri due to Andretti buying the team?

[sgr]

How will Alpha Tauri and RBR collude to get Max the win?


I heard the sun would heat the track just the right amount, and cows would fart just right amount of methane to help.

:smokin:

[F1nKS]

Albon out with appendicitis - opportunity for Devries.

9 drivers taking engine penalties again should spice the race up a bit. Tsunoda also has penalties included for reprimands and penalty ignoring yellow flags.

[F1nKS]

Latifi should be done with DeVries coming in an out qualifying him with no practices. That had to seal his fate if it had not already been.

[truefan72]

This how the race should end and it just brings up so much anger about Abu Dhabi. And of course Max benefits. Just bitter.
Congrats to Devries. If I were Williams, Latifi would be fired after today and replaced with DeVries


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[truefan72]

Also what are sky going on about?
Ferrari absolutely blew the strategy. They made the wrong call to pit LeClerc under the VSC and effectively lost the lead because of that. The Ferrari was a faster car than the RBR but were never gonna win with a 2 stop strategy. And they really seem unsure of what to do and keep relying on the drivers to make the decision. SMH


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[F1nKS]

I don't understand the European way of thinking of how they approach sporting events from football with their "extra time" and Formula 1, where you let a race run out on a safety car. These are not in the spirit of the sport.

It is car racing, not Sunday driving.

[Bagwan]

I don't understand the European way of thinking of how they approach sporting events from football with their "extra time" and Formula 1, where you let a race run out on a safety car. These are not in the spirit of the sport.

It is car racing, not Sunday driving.

Unlike football , where the players may have the extra "gas" for added time , you can't add laps to the race as they could run out of fuel .

It's a pretty tricky situation , so close to the end of the race , but it appears they should have called either the safety car or a red flag sooner .
I guess they missed Max , and had to run them around again to pick him up , which burned another lap , which led to the white flag .

Given that occurred , rules perhaps need changing to make it more likely to red flag in that situation , but it's a complicated , and extremely highly pressurized moment in time that we are now looking at in hindsight .

It's a bummer for us , and it all might have been different , had the Badger car not been stuck in gear , making it impossible for the marshals to clear .
Hey , didn't that Badger work for those nasty Bulls at one time ?
He's probably still on the payroll , as leaving it in gear took away any chance of at least one flying lap , where George and Charles might have had a shot at Max .
Dirty Badger .

[sgr]

This how the race should end and it just brings up so much anger about Abu Dhabi. And of course Max benefits. Just bitter.
Congrats to Devries. If I were Williams, Latifi would be fired after today and replaced with DeVries


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They should have cleared the car sooner and given us at least one last lap with all three cars going for it. Sadly it wasn't to be. I'd wager that Russell could have jumped LeClerc if that had happened.

I'm sure conspiracy theorists will find some way to hate on this as well.

The Dutch have a lot to celebrate tonight,

[sgr]

Hey , didn't that Badger work for those nasty Bulls at one time ?
He's probably still on the payroll , as leaving it in gear took away any chance of at least one flying lap , where George and Charles might have had a shot at Max .
Dirty Badger .


You do realize that max haters would actually believe this? :D

[airshifter]

As it turns out, Riccardios car wouldn't go into neutral and that was the reason they had to pick it up. But to be honest, I think they need to learn some lessons from Indycar, as they can clear just about anything much more quickly. It doesn't lifts of the size they use to lift these cars. Repo crews could clear a car like that in 30 seconds.


As for the race itself, rather boring IMHO. Though there was some decent racing through the pack it was mostly short lived events. Other than Ferrari throwing away a good shot at victory again, the only fun part to watch was the midfield area really. It was interesting the differences in Sainz, Hamilton, and Perez trying to get up into the points, and how much they differed in their progress. George did well to keep himself on the podium, but never really got the pressure from behind.

Fantastic to see Nyck not only get into the points, but bring home a couple of them. Towards the end of the race he did very well to defend against the cars behind, and kept his cool through the race.

Max once again made it look easy. I don't think there was any question that he would be up front quickly. It was interesting to see how they opted for downforce vs low drag as compared to the others though. I suspect they knew they could be up close when it mattered, and have more DF for braking into the corners even if the speed differentials didn't make the pass easy on the straights.

[N. Jones]

Also what are sky going on about?
Ferrari absolutely blew the strategy. They made the wrong call to pit LeClerc under the VSC and effectively lost the lead because of that. The Ferrari was a faster car than the RBR but were never gonna win with a 2 stop strategy. And they really seem unsure of what to do and keep relying on the drivers to make the decision. SMH


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Sky are crying, as always. SO glad I watch F1TV now.

[airshifter]

Sky are crying, as always. SO glad I watch F1TV now.

If we could keep Croft off of F1TV, it would be worth paying a few bucks more for the subscription. I can't stand the drama and excitement he tries to often add when there is none. One of Hamiltons passes at Monza invoked his high pitched drama voice as if it was significant at the time. It's just mind numbing.

But overall I agree that I'm glad we don't get the Sky coverage team all the time. Some of them are ok, but as many are not.


Are you listening F1TV? I will pay more if you get rid of Croft!

[Bagwan]

A little valium might work .

[Bagwan]

That's for Crofty , by the way .

[The Black Knight]

This how the race should end and it just brings up so much anger about Abu Dhabi. And of course Max benefits. Just bitter.
Congrats to Devries. If I were Williams, Latifi would be fired after today and replaced with DeVries


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Max isn't the real world champion, we know that. He'll always be -1 and have that asterisk. I'm more annoyed that Mercedes dropped the case and didn't force the FIA to reverse the decision. They should have gone the whole way, even if it meant taking it outside the FIA toa global court regardless of tge damage to F1. It's unacceptable from a fans pov that they just let the matter rest. I've zero sympathy for them getting their asses kicked this year, as a result, either.

Delighted for Devries myself as well. Latifi has to be one of the worst drivers on the grid in a long time. He does not deserve his place.

Ferrari could have won this years title. I've never seen a team so spectacularly throw away win after win with such an exceptional car. They are living in the late 1999s early 2000s where they think they can still get away with off the cuff non data driven decisions like they managed so many times with Schumacher. It doesn't work that way anymore given the teams have so much data and at least one strategists has a brain. Some of their strategy decisions. Smh. How haven't they fired anyone? LeClerc should leave and move to Mercedes when Hamilton retires.

[F1nKS]

Max isn't the real world champion, we know that. He'll always be -1 and have that asterisk.

I googled "list of F1 champions" and did not find one asterisk in any of the various lists.

[Zico]

Max isn't the real world champion, we know that. He'll always be -1 and have that asterisk.

'We'? No, maybe Nitrodaze, Truefan and yourself feel that way but I think you guys are in the minority with that opinion here.

It was unfortunate... but it made up for Silverstone. He still deserved it more than about 4 or 5 of Lewis's WDC's in a dominant Merc and weaker team mate. Should we not put asterisks on these titles too?

I don't place much value on WDC's. With no level playing field in F1 its really not that meaningful to me. I get more pleasure from great battles and moves anywhere in the field, than from who actually wins.

[EightGear]

Max isn't the real world champion, we know that. He'll always be -1 and have that asterisk.


I've got news - he really is world champion!

[sgr]

Max isn't the real world champion, we know that. He'll always be -1 and have that asterisk.

:rotflmao:

Just curious, why do you torture yourself with this hate? 🤔

Are you worried that Sir Entitled will feel you let him down if you stopped posting this drivel? After he swore at his team for "screwing" him, do you worry you and your ilk would be next?

[The Black Knight]

:rotflmao:

Just curious, why do you torture yourself with this hate? 🤔

Are you worried that Sir Entitled will feel you let him down if you stopped posting this drivel? After he swore at his team for "screwing" him, do you worry you and your ilk would be next?

Hate? Take head out of your mental conditioner for a minute.