2022 - Race 13 Hungary

[F1nKS]

For some reason I thought France was the last race before summer break, but I was wrong it is Hungary. This track would seem to favor Ferrari, but you can't trust Ferrari with their reliability issues, strategy issues and sometimes head scratching mistakes by Charles.

[airshifter]

Reliability is killing them, strategy isn't helping, and now the (big) mistakes include Charles as well as Carlos. It does seem that overall the drivers are growing, but the team is still struggling, and at a lower level than quite a few others.

If they could turn around the reliability issues they might have a shot to put the rest of it together, but I think the added pressure is making them crack.

[The Black Knight]

The talk of the paddock this weekend will be Vettel's retirement. Best of luck to him. Family is more important.

[F1nKS]

The talk of the paddock this weekend will be Vettel's retirement. Best of luck to him. Family is more important.

Surprised and not surprised. Not surprised; it has to suck driving for Aston Martin. Suprised as it seemed he was going to go at least another year.

[F1nKS]

Porsche is buying 50% of Red Bull

[airshifter]

It could be an interesting weekend. Chances of rain before or possibly during qually, but cooler and less chance of rain on Sunday. The various roll of the dice setups on qually vs race could be all over the place, and if we actually get a damp or wet race maybe even more interesting.

Major upgrades visible in the Haas of Kmag. Much more Ferrari styled sidepods, and a few other visible tweaks. They seem to have been the slowest to bring major changes so far, but overall the rate of development has been fairly brisk IMHO especially considering the budget caps impacting things. Many major upgrades through the teams, and a lot of refinement on the tunnel entrances and strakes at the front of the cars.

[airshifter]

AM being quite clever with the rules. I personally think this is brilliant, but suspect they will quickly issue a technical directive that gets rid of it.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY08cVwXoAAeW6U?format=jpg&name=medium

Photo from Albert Fabrega on Twitter.

A Youtube video on their "endplate" design and how the rules allowed a hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HT0qJs0ZPY&t=1s




Personally I think when things like this take place, they should at a minimum allow it until the end of the season. The same with major testing changes and such. It's F1 and teams exploit the rules any chance they get. Rather than keep writing rules with loopholes, they should consider how crafty the teams will be and write the rules to cover all bases. I don't like the entire "spirit of the regulations" argument.

Take this example. AM considered it, thought it out, designed it, and probably at least did some basic CFD or something to weigh downforce increase vs drag increase, and then produced the parts which might only be used at a few tracks. If they issue a TD and outlaw it quickly then AM lost the time and money for finding that hole in the regs. If they allow it until at least years end, the other teams would have to weight whether it is worth the time and money with only half the season remaining. Though I doubt this will have huge impact on downforce and it's far from Brawns double decker diffuser, it's this kind of innovation I want to see in F1, with teams clawing performance any place they can.

What does everyone else think?

[Tazio]

'tifi :dork:

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[gm99]

'tifi :dork:



First in P3, last in Q1...

Congrats to Russell on his first pole; should be an interesting race tomorrow!

[Bagwan]

First in P3, last in Q1...

Congrats to Russell on his first pole; should be an interesting race tomorrow!

Hey , cut the lad some slack there !
He did the fastest first sector of all in Q1 , and improved his second sector , only to lose it to a wind gust in the final corner .
That was in a Williams car .

That's actually pretty impressive , isn't it ?




By the way , did anybody see that Georgie boy taking pole ?
As Murray would have said , "anything can happen in F1 , and it usually does ." .

[Mia 01]

Very happy for George! but I´m afraid it will be a Ferrari 1-2 tomorrow

[airshifter]

Well I didn't see that coming!

It should make for a good race.....

[Zico]

Nice shake up of the grid with Max's problems and Russells shock pole.
Difficult track to pass on but even if he still leads into the first corner I fear Ferrari can still pincer him on strategy... IF... they play their cards right.
Max trying to fight through the field could also be interesting.

Could make for a good one... I guess I'm really hoping for a LeClerc win to keep the championship somewhat alive but huge congrats to George whatever happens..

[Bagwan]

Latifi for the win if it rains !

[sgr]

What were Ferrari smoking?:confused:

[N. Jones]

Boring race. I stopped watching after the first pit stops.

[Zico]

What were Ferrari smoking?:confused:

He must be smoking his brain cells.
Totto in his interview reckoned that Ferrari must have had no mediums left to have done that... yet Binotto said nothing about it in his interview so it has to be yet another huge blunder?
I couldn't believe what I was seeing when they put Charles on hards... nor could anyone... yet that decision was made by someone on a far higher pay grade than most of us.

Someone please explain what his logic might have been because I still don't understand.
He needs to go... he is handing Max and Red Bull both titles on a plate.

[F1nKS]

This was a much more fun race than I was expecting. There was action from start to finish. Only thing that could have made it better would have been rain.

[airshifter]

The second year in a row that Hungary brings us an interesting race.


George did well to hold off the charge as long as he did. Overall he had a great weekend, even if things did swing to Lewis on the final stint with the different strategies. I thought he would be toast fairly quickly, but he stuck it out for a while.

And overall, the race just seemed to leave me wondering which strategies would work out. Max made quick work of things at getting towards the front again, and Checo did well at it also. But it left me wondering if anyone could get it right and challenge them with softs at the end. As it turns out, Ferrari hosed their strategy and faded while Merc got things right and went forward. For the life of me I can't imagine why they pitted Leclerc so early and then went to hards when he was doing fine on the mediums. But Ferrari faltered, and Lewis and George got well deserved podiums and the points advantage.

Lando did a great job to keep the McLaren up in the points, and though Danny Ric faded in the standings, he did get a great pass on the Alpines in single dive that put him by both cars.

Fred and Ocon kept the Alpines in the points again, even if they did have some issues at race start. They seemed to be the only ones to really make anything happen on the hards.

Max ran a strong but controlled race. Well, other than the "spin to win" move. But I have to say, he must have amazing spatial awareness and and uncanny feel for the car when things like that happen. He just recovers well so often from incidents that put others in the wall, it's like he practices it or something. Checo did fairly well this weekend too, considering his start. Overall RB had a good weekend in damage control mode, and with Merc stealing points from the sleeping horses, things are looking good for RB.



Going into the summer break, it looks like Merc have really made some good improvements. If Ferrari keep screwing up the Merc might beat them in the WCC standings at this rate. I can't help but think Ferrari keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They seem to have no real strategy plans at all, and can't even keep track of what we can catch watching. I think they need to make some changes if they want a chance at even challenging for 2nd in the WCC, and at this point have all but written off any hope of them winning it.

[aankhka]

Congrats to Russell on his first pole; should be an interesting race tomorrow! mobdro 2022 (https://get-mobdro.com/home/)

[Zico]

Congrats to Russell on his first pole; should be an interesting race tomorrow!

? This race was in July.

[Steve Boyd]

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