Rally Portugal 2022

[wwbroe]

Sordo allready 3.1 sec up on Seb on first split

[wwbroe]

similar to the junior wrc regs, the fia have announced a new driver eligibility regulation. Effective immediately rally 1 wrc championship will belimited to drivers under the age of 50 years old.
:D

[Sulland]

Ford need to put in thicker rubber seals in all 3 doors to try to improve the dust issue. A few euros will fix it!!

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTMXBTJXsAEUEEG?format=jpg&name=large

[seb_sh]

Looks like the master is giving another lesson.

[doubled1978]

He really is something very special, sure he may not go and win this rally, but that is an amazing effort.
For MSport it’s great in isolation, but it must also be bittersweet as that shows what the car is capable of.
They need somehow to put a package together to get Tanak out of Hyundai.

[wwbroe]

Sordo slowest Hyundai

[EstWRC]

nobody mentions Thierry but i would say it was evenly impressive stage from him, considering his starting position

[meh]

still a lot to go today, the times were fine on first two stages for him, so yeah either he made a change for this stage that didnt work or smth....with couple of splits he just dropped over a second, with second split he gave away 4 secs

and still 4th overall. Seemd quite dramatic lost when it happened, didn't expect others starting from back all lost as well.

[Sulland]

The youngsters must be, or at least should be, a little embarrased by a part time driver, soon 50 years old man beating them on gravel !!

[EstWRC]

The youngsters must be, or at least should be, a little embarrased by a part time driver, soon 50 years old man beating them on grave l!!

cmon it was just 1 stage so far.

to me he has always been the GOAT but some people getting really carried away after one stage win

[EstWRC]

look at the tires here https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1527593431299661826?s=20&t=t-ydj_Uknh6fSwUhuPMnAQ

[meh]

RC2 today - 3x Suninen-Grazyn-Mikkelsen

[EstWRC]

Tänak shakedown onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTyTieATa5g

[wwbroe]

Three besttimes out of three stages by Suninen, good for Hyundai. Solberg doesn't seem to be able to produce same speed tough.

[spiderem]

If Loeb and Rovempera finish on the podium, there will be an age difference of 26 years+
Surely it will be some sort of record?

[COD]

Agree totally. Does not look good for the regular drivers that a guest driver (no matter how experienced and past multiple champion) steps into the car a beats the crap out of them right away. Monte was special for Loeb, but this is even more sensational.

Reply to @sullands post

[TypeR]

Agree totally. Does not look good for the regular drivers that a guest driver (no matter how experienced and past multiple champion) steps into the car a beats the crap out of them right away. Monte was special for Loeb, but this is even more sensational.

Reply to @sullands post

+ he isn't starting far back or last(like Ogier or Sordo)

[flat_right]

The biggest takeaway for me is that Ford desperately needs a quality driver in their car. Loeb is mortal (Hyundai) but if the car is doing what he likes, he can produce these times.

[dimviii]

Looks like the master is giving another lesson.

when was last time he drove at gravel? must be a lot of time.

[EstWRC]

when was last time he drove at gravel? must be a lot of time.

i was just checking that, Turkey 2020 and he was leading there after the first loop as well but fell back after saturday starting order was reversed, lost 33 secs to Thierry with saturday loop and had a puncture on sunday and lost in the end 59 secs and was third

[er88]

when was last time he drove at gravel? must be a lot of time.Turkey with Hyundai? Hard to remember.

Again as others have said, shows that Msport have a great car and package but they've fucked themselves with the driver lineup

[focus206]

Very interesting morning, didn't expect such small gaps. Is there tyre service before SS5?

[EstWRC]

Very interesting morning, didn't expect such small gaps. Is there tyre service before SS5?

yes, tyre fitting zone before that

[skarderud]

Turkey with Hyundai? Hard to remember.

Again as others have said, shows that Msport have a great car and package but they've fucked themselves with the driver lineupMikkelsen is an obvious driver. M-sports mistake to ask for money over talent.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen is an obvious driver. M-sports mistake to ask for money over talent.



Breen was their choice and doesnt pay. He impressed last season when given Hyundai drives and deserved this chance.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:D :D :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTMZTmLWIAAOpEh?format=jpg&name=medium

[Essaj]

Hello All live:crazy:

[wwbroe]

Stage 5, second pas at Lousa, is now live

[EstWRC]

Stage is live but they showing interviews

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_05_2022/post-157-0-08671200-1653044079.jpg

[wwbroe]

They are still sleeping at WRC-Live?

[seb_sh]

Breen was their choice and doesnt pay. He impressed last season when given Hyundai drives and deserved this chance.

I like Breen but he hasn't had a full season for a while and absolutely no experience in leading a team. It was a risk, so far i'm a bit disappointed.

I posted before the lineup was announced that adding Mikkelsen would make the lineup look quite different.
Mikkelsen - Breen - Fourmaux versus Breen - Fourmaux - Greensmith

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220520/0b48544739427805d1e87e45b87344da.jpg

[TypeR]

They are still sleeping at WRC-Live?

don't be mad at them. they are doing absolutely perfect job. didn't even show last rally1 cars before..
and now Rovanperä almost at the end of SS5

[wwbroe]

Thierry 1.7 up on Kalle at first split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally...

[Essaj]

Can I go pee :rotflmao:

[er88]

Finally All(not)Live switches into gear, as Kalle is at the stopline...

[wwbroe]

Thierry 4.3 up on Kalle at split 2

[flat_right]

delete

[wwbroe]

Tänak only one with 2 spares. Can't blame him looking how rough it is.
Thierry also with 6 tires, also Kalle and Greensmith

[Essaj]

Thierry also with 6 tires

And Kalle and Gus

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nooooooo Loeb....

[wwbroe]

Problmes for Loeb

[er88]

Fuck sake the Goat has stopped

[seb_sh]

:(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Its over for Loeb... hit a wall !

[er88]

O dear, that's an awful mistake. Can't believe it

[wwbroe]

Twenty meters into the stage

[Tauri_J]

Wow didnt expect a rookie mistake

[dimviii]

WRC freak
@FakeHinkelstein
Spectators on the Góis stage are cooling off! Think I will give it a miss. �� @rallydeportugal
#wrc

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTMmVODXoAAbGnF?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTMmbjQWQAM7Vss?format=jpg&name=large

[seb_sh]

stupid mistake from Loeb, too bad

[Sulland]

Cold tires on tarmac, sliding into start of the concrete barrier. Phhuuu, dissappooooooointed!

[TypeR]

Let's see how much Tänak can make difference with no dust..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least Breen's Puma seems to be fixed for dust entry now.

[EstWRC]

Tänak still slow

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:( :( :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTMwRIqWUAIdaxV?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/i/status/1527617902018547713

[wwbroe]

Ott loosing some time compared to Thierry

[TypeR]

Tänak keeps losing time.. SPL2 +5.8

[EstWRC]

What the hell has-happened with Tänak. This is miserable

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak tried to makes some changes to the car and made it worse ?

[wwbroe]

6.3 lost for Ott to Neuville

[wwbroe]

Ott: it is not rough, but the car feels terrible

[focus206]

What a shame for Seb, I couldn't wait to see what he was capable of here. Didn't expect him to be in P1, but it is what it is...

[EstWRC]

And Kalle past Ott with this stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

C'mon Gus, this is your stage.

[wwbroe]

Gus is not going to repeat his performance of this morning on this stage

Alltough he is second fastest on second split

[wwbroe]

All drivers saying it is rough, Ott says it is not rough

[wwbroe]

Ogier only 0.3 down on Thierry at split 1

[wwbroe]

Ogier now 0.2 down at split 2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good run again here by Gus - hope he can improve on the next stages without dust in the car.

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Ogier -0.7

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bet Ogier will have a smile at Loeb being out.

[EstWRC]

And Ogier up to second in overall

[wwbroe]

Elfyn just a little slower at split 2

[wwbroe]

Very good opening split for Loubet

[wwbroe]

Third time for Elfynn, at 0.7 of Neuville

[240RS]

This event is surprisingly proving the "second-tier" brigade have closed the gap to the top runners.

Taka Katsuta,in particular, is quietly going about his business in impressive fashion. Gus and Loubet have not let themselves down either.

Only one still with question marks hanging - Adrien Fourmaux

[wwbroe]

Second best time for Loubet

[wwbroe]

Fourmeaux fastest at 2nth split

[wwbroe]

But loosing a lot at last part of stage

[wwbroe]

Flat tyre left front

[EstWRC]

Tänak with the slowest time on this stage….

Fourmaux had a puncture

[wwbroe]

Tänak with the slowest time on this stage….

Fourmaux had a puncture

Sordo a little bit slower

[Lead]

I expected a little bit more pace from Sordo.

[doubled1978]

Dear me, MSport need to stop hanging around with black cats and walking under ladders.
Amazing error from Loeb. Finally Fourmaux finds a bit of confidence and gets a puncture.
Full credit to Loubet tho, without his missed junction he would be in the mix

[wwbroe]

I expected a little bit more pace from Sordo.

You are not the only one

[wwbroe]

No splis for Gryazin?

[wwbroe]

Solberg loosing massive time

[dimviii]

Maestros mistake
https://twitter.com/JakubHoreovsk/status/1527617145252847616


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTM0vkbWYAAftAg?format=jpg&name=large

[wwbroe]

Massive time loss for Gryazin, puncture?

[er88]

Very rough corners and some huge ruts in this stage

[wwbroe]

Gryazin loosing 3 mins, Solberg also 1min42

[Lead]

Wow didnt expect a rookie mistake
Corsica 2018 comes to mind when watching Loeb's crash. Stupid mistake.

[wwbroe]

Thierry 5.9 up on Kalle on first split

[er88]

Wow..., first split from Thierry

[wwbroe]

Thierry -6.2 on split 2

[wwbroe]

But Craig even faster on first split

[wwbroe]

Kalle 9 sec slower than first pass

[Rallyper]

Its over for Loeb... hit a wall !

The master became a prentice...

[wwbroe]

Tanak stopped

[er88]

Tanak puncture. Neuville was right to be very clever in the ruts

[meh]

Tanak stopped

changing tire

[wwbroe]

Breen loosing a lot now?

[EstWRC]

Horrible rally for Tänak like it always has been apart from 2019 win

[meh]

Breen is also leaping

[er88]

Breen puncture now too..., or some issue

[wwbroe]

Also puncture for Breen?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FFS Breen now lost a chunk.

[wwbroe]

Front left puncture for Breen

[er88]

Unfortunate for Breen who finally had good speed on this stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Taka spun

[wwbroe]

Fast change for Tanak, only loosing 1,5 min in the change

[wwbroe]

Taka, small off, halfspin

[Rallyper]

Tanak has two spares...

[meh]

So, first it was equal for everyone and I was thinking, wow - no one had any big issues, mistakes, punctures etc.

Rally good - hold by beer.

[er88]

The drivers with only 1 spare could be worrying

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like Rovanpera could lose more time on the second passes than the first !

[wwbroe]

Really rough out there

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is it rough now Ott ? ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier now !!!

[EstWRC]

Tänak lost 3 secs with the rest of the stage if don’t count the puncture

[wwbroe]

Ogier stopped

[Tauri_J]

Tyre changing championship :)

[wwbroe]

Puncture as well

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like Rovanpera could lose more time on the second passes than the first !

Maybe not with all the punctures...

[Danny0405]

Quite crazy rally for the moment with a strange morning and really rough stages this afternoon
Good opportunity for a youngster such as Greensmith or Loubet to achieve a good result.
Or for Sordo for his 1st hybrid outing (complicated for him with so low preparation, should be better in Sardinia).

[Rally Hokkaido]

Wow, a gravel rally where first on the road is the best position!

[EstWRC]

Tyre changing championship :)

Tänak 30 secs faster than Ogier with that!

[wwbroe]

It took Ogier half a minute longer to change the tyre than Ott

[wwbroe]

Elfyn fastest at first split

[wwbroe]

Second best time for Gus

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good run Gus !

[rp]

It´s a pity that WRC´s current Rally1 tyres are so bad :(

[wwbroe]

Ogier now without spare wheel

[EstWRC]

I will get zero points with Pickens this week :D

[wwbroe]

Small off for Loubet, but good on splits again

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier now without spare wheel

Breen too ?

[meh]

One option for following rally on WRC+ could be with "commentary", when Grönholm just saying "oj oj oj" and "ai ai ai". With different way to saying them it's all one follower needs :)

[er88]

Ogier vs Pirelli again..., wonder if he will have any nice words for the Italian firm :D

[EstWRC]

Ogier and Tänak starting quite front tomorrow

[wwbroe]

Ogier blaming the Pirelli's

[Rally Hokkaido]

It´s a pity that WRC´s current Rally1 tyres are so bad :(

Seb Ogier, "It's rough and we drive (on) Pirelli!"

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Evans, 3.7 up on Neuville

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great stage Elfyn !

[Eli]

Ogier’s saying what all of us are thinking, 2025 can’t come soon enough for them, great commentary from Marcus also.

[EstWRC]

Ogier’s saying what all of us are thinking, 2025 can’t come soon enough for them, great commentary from Marcus also.

what you mean by that?

[wwbroe]

Second time for Loubet, really strong driving

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Allez Loubet... top job there.

[er88]

This is brilliant from Loubet. Shame about his mistake this morning

[Eli]

what you mean by that?
Referring to his comment on Pirelli.

[EstWRC]

world champions not having good event so far, Loeb with mistake, Ogier and Tänak with punctures

[wwbroe]

Fourmeaux very cautious, loosing 38 sec, but he has no more spare either does he?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The two highest M-Sport drivers aren't the nominated point scorers.

[AndyRAC]

Seb Ogier, "It's rough and we drive (on) Pirelli!"

It's Pirelli, what do you expect?

[wwbroe]

Codriver, Coria, was saying it is worse conditions than in Kenia

[Eli]

The two highest M-Sport drivers aren't the nominates point scorers.

Still only Friday afternoon, early days, hopefully they can keep it clean from here on out.

[EstWRC]

the two first starters today are in TOP3 today at the moment, didnt expect that

[flat_right]

what you mean by that?

Maybe that in 2025, there will be another tyre supplier?

[Eli]

Maybe that in 2025, there will be another tyre supplier?

Yes, cause Pirelli have a 4 year contract and we’re into our second season with them.

[wwbroe]

Gryazin loosing a lot again

[Rallyper]

Oliver was hindered by Gryazin on last stage....

[flat_right]

This is a Rally bar talk but why can't they just bring back tyre mousse (I think it was called that) where when there is a loss in pressure, the tyre will fill up with some chemical and the tyre maintains its function. Too expensive?

[Tauri_J]

This is a Rally bar talk but why can't they just bring back tyre mousse (I think it was called that) where when there is a loss in pressure, the tyre will fill up with some chemical and the tyre maintains its function. Too expensive?

Yup been thinking and talking about it the last 2-3 years.

[Lead]

For me these abnormally frequent punctures are ruining competition and the whole rally.

Everyone is driving not to set up a fast stage time, but to avoid a puncture.

[wwbroe]

Kalle just a little faster in the stage than Thierry

[COD]

This is a Rally bar talk but why can't they just bring back tyre mousse (I think it was called that) where when there is a loss in pressure, the tyre will fill up with some chemical and the tyre maintains its function. Too expensive?

Expensive and caused even more problems to lower classes who had no mousse tyres as the the cuts were more extreme by those cars who had mousse tyres.

[wwbroe]

Thierry loosing suddenly 3 sec now on split 3

[COD]

For me these abnormally frequent punctures are ruining competition and the whole rally.

Everyone is driving not to set up a fast stage time, but to avoid a puncture.

Rally was intended as endurance sport. Part of the thing is to drive smart enough not to have punctures and not to brake cars

[EstWRC]

Ott already +5 in split 1

[Lead]

Rally was intended as endurance sport. Part of the thing is to drive smart enough not to have punctures and not to brake cars

I know that. But these countless punctures are just too much.

[wwbroe]

Thierry loosing more time, now 5.1 down on Kalle

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally was intended as endurance sport. Part of the thing is to drive smart enough not to have punctures and not to brake cars

WAS.... but now its more of a sprint and they need tyres that wont ruin it.

[wwbroe]

5.8 lost in the end

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thierry loosing more time, now 5.1 down on Kalle

Tyre strategy.

[wwbroe]

Thierry is saying he is saving the tires for the next one

[wwbroe]

Ott really slow in there

[er88]

Tanak going slow. Problem

[wwbroe]

Tanak going slow. Problem
Yes, loosing allready 40 sec in split 3

[Lead]

Prediction: Ogier will go off or retire, he wont reach end of the day ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen with no hybrid... :(

[wwbroe]

No hybrid for Breen

[EstWRC]

i think Ott is afraid to damage the raditor, he doesnt have the grill and front splitter

[wwbroe]

Loosing a lot tough, 1.35.9 lost

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0dJCrAxFWs
Tune for Tanak at Hyundai.... :rolleyes:

[wwbroe]

Rear left puncture

[wwbroe]

Ogier loosing a lot too

[Rallyper]

Now it´s about surviving the whole rally. Ott maybe clever here...

[meh]

Prediction: Ogier will go off or retire, he wont reach end of the day ;)

good call, 20+ sec lost in 1st split

[EstWRC]

Tänak the king of punctures

but to tbe honest it didnt seems only puncture, that puncture must have been at the end of the stage

[meh]

Tänak the king of punctures

Something was loose under car as well, and quite opened front. I don't think the puncture was the main reason.

Probably Ogier second puncture and going to retire for today?

[Rallyper]

Ogier in big trouble...

[wwbroe]

Codriver is using mobile phone

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier cruising.. yet another puncture.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Prediction: Ogier will go off or retire, he wont reach end of the day ;)

Can you tell me next week's LOTTO numbers?

[EstWRC]

lol they are jokin estonian TV that Ogier sent a message to his wife :"i will be home earlier"

[wwbroe]

Ogier stopped now

[the sniper]

Why wouldn't he have taken another tyre?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They said it would get rough after the recce... no excuse for taking only one spare. Stupid.

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Gus also?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gus now. This is a joke really.

[wwbroe]

But he has another spare, doesn't he?

[EstWRC]

this is a joke Pirelli

and to think they made the tyre stronger for this event

[EstWRC]

and Ogier turned down from the stage

[wwbroe]

Elfyn loosing time also, be it only 3 sec compared to Kalle at split 2

[Eli]

this is a joke Pirelli

and to think they made the tyre stronger for this event

Can we please go back to Michelin’s now?

[Lead]

It is all Mikkelsen's fault, he was the main driver who developed/tested the pirelli tyres. He himself didnt get the seat in WRC1, so decided to ruin the tyre for everybody :p

[Lead]

Can you tell me next week's LOTTO numbers?

Sure, no problem :D

[wwbroe]

Evans +4.6 at the end

[EstWRC]

Loeb, Ogier, Tänak = 17 titles started today the event

only 1 left is also limping :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It is all Mikkelsen's fault, he was the main driver who developed/tested the pirelli tyres. He himself didnt get the seat in WRC1, so decided to ruin the tyre for everybody :p

Ha ha was just going to say this ! :D

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/6n9NvnAY/s1000/andreas-mikkelsen-anders-jager.webp

[EstWRC]

so Ogier had second puncture?

at least this is written on EWRC

[Sulland]

Can we please go back to Michelin’s now?

Or make tyres free, so all tyre manus can compete as well.

[Lead]

He is now laughing in Skoda passing by all retired WRC1 drivers and cruising after another WRC2 tittle :D

[wwbroe]

so Ogier had second puncture?

at least this is written on EWRC
Apparently yes, he did have only one spare, so decided to leave the stage

[er88]

Becs and Paul King are clueless. Totally forgotten Greensmith had a puncture towards the end

[EstWRC]

Becs and Paul King are clueless. Totally forgotten Greensmith had a puncture towards the end

today in the morning i had to watch first 3 stages from wrc plus because Estonian Tv didnt show those

its just awful IMO

[focus206]

Bad display by Pirelli, but it's a big risk taking only 1 spare with how rough it is.

[COD]

For me these abnormally frequent punctures are ruining competition and the whole rally.

Everyone is driving not to set up a fast stage time, but to avoid a puncture.

Rally was intended as endurance sport. Part of the thing is to drive smart enough not to have punctures and not to brake cars

[COD]

Apparently yes, he did have only one spare, so decided to leave the stage

They knew it was going to be rough, why only one spare?

[wwbroe]

Suninen now suddenly 15 sec slower than Andreas

[er88]

Gutting for Suninen after such a great start to the rally against Mikkelsen

[wwbroe]

Seems like puncture also?

Rear right puncture

[wwbroe]

Real pitty for Suninen, after putting all fastest times on the stages sofar, now suddenly 40 sec behind Mikkelsen

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Linnemae as well

[wwbroe]

Rossel into third in WRC2, only 4 sec behind Suninen

[wwbroe]

Pietarinen didn't start the stage?

[EstWRC]

puncture festival!

im amazed some guys here still are proctect Pirelli

i can understand some punctures, but we have had how many already after lunch? Virves in JWRC also had 2 already

[itix]

I wonder if they should reintroduce the mousse tyres of the mid 2000s.

I can't really see any reason why they shouldn't.

[Danny0405]

Also Ingram apparently, should be enough to give the lead to Marczyk in WRC2J ... if nothing happens to him :)

[denkimi]

I wonder if they should reintroduce the mousse tyres of the mid 2000s.

I can't really see any reason why they shouldn't.
As said here before. It makes the big guys cut even more, so the small teams have to use it as well or they are disadvantaged.

Al they have to do is make tyre choise free so pirelli has some incentive to do something about it. Just like in f1, giving them a monopoly has done nothing good for the sport.

[TypeR]

They must do something about that.. ridiculous how many punctures..

Everything cost millions in rallying and now adding some mousse/tyre noodle to tyres wouldn't really change the budget.. except would maybe keep some costs down thank to not retiring..

[flat_right]

If you see me driving with Pirellis, you know I have a dementia.

[itix]

How expensive can they be?
If you keep them on rough rallies only it will keep the budget cost down as well.

[flat_right]

On Estonian TV the commentator said that only on SS7 he counted 13 punctures and all the cars had not passed yet. Ok, not all are Pirellis but it is a problem.

[AndyRAC]

As said here before. It makes the big guys cut even more, so the small teams have to use it as well or they are disadvantaged.

All they have to do is make tyre choice free so pirelli has some incentive to do something about it. Just like in f1, giving them a monopoly has done nothing good for the sport.

Agree. The top tiers of motorsport should never be like this; F1/ WRC with Pirelli, and MotoGP with Michelin..... However, we get told a 'tyre war' isn't good for the sport. Neither are poor tyres...

[wwbroe]

Thierry with massive time loss?

[flat_right]

Neuville with puncture?

[focus206]

If you see me driving with Pirellis, you know I have a dementia.

Didn't have a problem when I had Pirellis on my old car, even with 1 Km of gravel road around my house. Road tyres are another thing.

[wwbroe]

He looses 9 sec to Kalle on first split

[er88]

Neuville in trouble or wrong time? What is going on ffs

[wwbroe]

Neuville with some kind of problem

[the sniper]

Neuville definitely looks slower than usual under acceleration.

[wwbroe]

Loosing more then a minute on second split

[flat_right]

Didn't have a problem when I had Pirellis on my old car, even with 1 Km of gravel road around my house. Road tyres are another thing.

I have an emotional damage

[EstWRC]

seems he has shit something?

bodywork loose

[er88]

This would be awful for the championship

[EstWRC]

This would be awful for the championship

heh, Kalle has won it anyway

[meh]

If Rovanperä start winning stages when opening the road... then another guys.. what changes you actually have? Only hope that Rovanperä is getting enough punctures to have at least some chance.